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Hardwick Select Board: Solar Project, Healthcare, and Financial Administration

Original title: 6/10/24 - Hardwick, MA Select Board Meeting

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Date

June 10, 2024

Duration

1h 17m

Decisions

12 recorded

Action Items

27 assigned

Summary

The Hardwick Select Board convened to address several key municipal issues, including the interim Fire Chief's status, the renewal of the Vadar accounting software contract, and a one-day liquor license application. A significant portion of the meeting was dedicated to a comprehensive update on the Kearsarge Solar Project, detailing its long development history, substantial financial benefits to the town, and the integration of battery storage. The Board also approved a new Assistant Superintendent position for WPFC and received an update on the Mary Lane Hospital closure, outlining strategies to address the resulting healthcare gap and efforts to reclaim the Gilbert Trust fund. The new Town Administrator presented her strategic goals, and discussions were held regarding end-of-year financial transfers and a time-sensitive Paul Brown Grant application for historic revitalization.

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A board member advocated for the Town Court position to become full-time, with the board open to a formal conversation to understand needs and timing.
Discussion centered on the interim Fire Chief, Josh Peas, whose term ends June 30th, including budget allocation concerns and the lack of department reports.
The renewal of the Vadar accounting software contract was discussed, with questions raised regarding the Service Level Agreement (SLA), annual licensing fees, and a request for competitive comparisons.
Kearsarge Solar provided a comprehensive update on their project, detailing its long history since 2017, delays due to National Grid, and significant financial benefits to the town through estimated lease and tax revenue of $180,000 to $225,000 annually.
The Kearsarge Solar project is 'grandfathered' under an older Massachusetts program and will include battery storage to maximize revenue within the SMART program, with safety protocols comparable to a gas station.
The closure of Mary Lane Hospital was discussed, highlighting the resulting 'healthcare desert' status for general services and the anticipated legal battle to reclaim $17 million from the Gilbert Trust fund.
The new Town Administrator presented her strategic goals for the initial 90-120 days, Phase 2, and Phase 3, focusing on familiarization, departmental meetings, and financial and IT assessment.
The Mass Central Rail Trail project seeks the board's support in writing a letter to MassDOT to help finish the rail trail.
A time-sensitive Paul Brown Grant for historic revitalization was identified, requiring immediate action and Planning Board backing by a Friday deadline, described as a 'golden goose' opportunity.
The impact of Steward hospitals' bankruptcy and acquisition by Optum on the local healthcare provider network was noted, emphasizing the urgency for local planning to secure potential grant funding.

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For Monday June 10th 2024 um we could please all stand for the Pledge of Allegiance go ahead pledge allegiance to the flag United States of America to the repblic for which it stands one nation
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Under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all thank you everyone visitor comments anyone I would offer that I thought you all did a fine job at the meeting thank you very
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Much second can we bring up any that um aside aside from kir I'm advocating for the town court position to become full-time MH and talk to Ryan a little bit talk to a few
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Other people have not heard any negative response in regards to that and I'll probably coming more formally to the board in the future um I talk to the finance committee but they're appointed by Ryan so they really can't interact on
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Or Advocate correct so right it will be coming again yep so and just just so that everyone's aware we're not opposed to it we just want to have a good solid conversation with him to understand his needs and try to figure it out you know whether it be the fall or for the next
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Fiscal year and I did have a good conversation with him you know after that meeting as well so we do we we're willing to work with him to to figure this out okay great y great yep anybody else good okay uh sewer
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Abatements we have a few abatements so looks like gville storage for 21437 uh Flur and
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Nancy right chei chei for 21437 and pyer terminals for 21437 just those three move Grant the abatement second

[00:00:00] for Monday June 10th [00:00:03] 2024 um we could please all stand for [00:00:05] the Pledge of [00:00:09] Allegiance go ahead pledge allegiance to [00:00:12] the flag United States of America to the [00:00:15] repblic for which it stands one nation [00:00:19] under God indivisible with liberty and [00:00:21] justice for all thank you [00:00:24] everyone visitor [00:00:28] comments anyone [00:00:30] I would offer that I thought you all did [00:00:32] a fine job at the [00:00:34] meeting thank you very [00:00:37] much second can we bring up any [00:00:41] that um aside aside from kir [00:00:46] um I'm advocating for the town court [00:00:49] position to become full-time MH and uh [00:00:54] talk to Ryan a little bit talk to a few [00:00:56] other people have not heard any negative [00:01:00] response in regards to that and I'll [00:01:02] probably coming more formally to the [00:01:05] board in the future um I talk to the [00:01:09] finance committee but they're appointed [00:01:11] by Ryan so they really can't interact on [00:01:14] or Advocate correct so right it will be [00:01:18] coming again yep so and just just so [00:01:22] that everyone's aware we're not opposed [00:01:24] to it we just want to have a good solid [00:01:26] conversation with him to understand his [00:01:28] needs and try to figure it out you know [00:01:31] whether it be the fall or for the next [00:01:34] fiscal year and I did have a good [00:01:36] conversation with him you know after [00:01:38] that meeting as well so we do we we're [00:01:41] willing to work with him to to figure [00:01:43] this out okay great y great yep anybody [00:01:49] else good okay uh sewer [00:01:53] abatements we have a few [00:01:57] abatements so looks like [00:02:01] uh gville [00:02:03] storage for [00:02:08] 21437 uh Flur and [00:02:12] Nancy right chei chei for [00:02:17] 21437 and pyer terminals for [00:02:23] 21437 just those [00:02:28] three move Grant the abatement second [00:02:32] any [00:02:33] discussion all those in favor I [00:02:38] I actually I'm going to leave everything [00:02:40] to sign at the end that's okay yeah [00:02:44] absolutely [00:02:46] um discussion for uh fire [00:02:50] ches so um we had appointed Josh P inum [00:02:57] when uh Ray Walker [00:03:00] back in December correct that term comes [00:03:03] up June 30th um so I had it you know I [00:03:08] had Nicole put it on the the agenda to [00:03:10] discuss what we think we want to do well [00:03:14] I'd like to bring them in and and him [00:03:17] talk about it uh one wrinkle is that his [00:03:22] salary didn't make it into the [00:03:25] budget so we have enough to pay for [00:03:29] another half year okay 21 I'm sorry go [00:03:33] ahead [00:03:34] $21,000 um was approved at to meeting [00:03:36] okay so that can be that can be adjusted [00:03:39] in the fall if we need to um I just I [00:03:42] guess I kind of know I don't think we've [00:03:45] gotten uh a department report since he's [00:03:48] been on so I I'm concerned about that so [00:03:51] do you want to have him in on our next [00:03:53] meeting yeah and have a good [00:03:55] conversation with yeah give me a list of [00:03:56] particulars and I'll oh I think you know [00:03:59] just staying in contact you know and and [00:04:02] wanting to know you know how he's I want [00:04:05] to know if he wants hand right with his [00:04:07] job you know cuz I know he's you know [00:04:09] got a full-time yeah um yeah I'm going [00:04:13] to talk to a couple other people on the [00:04:14] scbe as well okay all right so let's add [00:04:17] that to the next agenda Perfect all [00:04:19] right uh Vadar contract excuse me I'm be [00:04:24] the fire Cham yeah um is it going to be [00:04:26] executive session at all so we can have [00:04:28] a conversation with this guy or is this [00:04:30] going to be out and the open this will [00:04:31] be an open meeting okay we won't be [00:04:34] negotiating yeah it's not right yeah or [00:04:37] I don't think we will no push it to the [00:04:41] next meeting after that if we need if we [00:04:43] need to yeah and even you he doesn't [00:04:45] have a contract now and he'll want one [00:04:47] if he wants to stay so right so we'll [00:04:50] have to figure that out so that this [00:04:51] first meeting will be in open okay I [00:04:53] asked Nicole to reach out to him did she [00:04:55] hear [00:04:57] back I don't have any knowled show that [00:05:00] I did yeah I actually did um hear from [00:05:03] him today but um yeah I'll make sure [00:05:06] that we're set up for the next meeting [00:05:08] then if if that's the direction that the [00:05:11] board wants to go and we'll set up for [00:05:12] the following meeting and an executive [00:05:14] session all right thank [00:05:16] you okay F contract um this is this is [00:05:21] how all of our accounting um departments [00:05:25] kind of speak to each other and we used [00:05:28] to have two different systems [00:05:30] and we eliminated the one and changed a [00:05:32] b of Vadar uh been two or 3 years now [00:05:37] that we did that I think and this is now [00:05:40] coming up for Renewal so the contract is [00:05:43] in front of [00:05:45] you mam chair yes um so I actually did [00:05:50] have a good Bill asked a good question [00:05:52] today um so the two big Financial [00:05:55] softwares that most municipalities use [00:05:57] are Vadar and munice right I find Vadar [00:06:00] to be way more user friendly it is a [00:06:02] little bit more inexpensive it's not [00:06:05] cheap but um of the two major Financial [00:06:08] softwares I Vadar is the one that yeah [00:06:11] I'm glad that the town uses there was a [00:06:13] lot of discussion before going over to [00:06:16] it you know full board um I don't even [00:06:20] remember what the collector was using [00:06:22] infinite Visions [00:06:25] maybe I I I don't remember now but um [00:06:29] you know this was definitely the [00:06:30] preferred yeah system for everybody in [00:06:33] the in the accounting um department and [00:06:37] I just also want the board to know that [00:06:40] uh the Civic plus contract is also up so [00:06:42] that will be on the next agenda correct [00:06:45] y so the annual total for software and [00:06:48] cloud is 14 [00:06:51] 45540 um of which I'm assuming we budget [00:06:54] budgeted it this year uh knowing that [00:06:57] this was coming up so does anybody [00:07:00] have any other yeah I I have a couple [00:07:03] questions that's [00:07:05] okay um one is the service level [00:07:09] agreement on this do we know I mean they [00:07:14] talk about data recovery and stuff like [00:07:16] that but there's nothing as far as their [00:07:18] rating goes if it's 2 9 3 9 49 five and [00:07:23] it all has to do with how much [00:07:25] downtime if they go down you are down [00:07:28] you could be potentially down a month [00:07:30] and they make no they make reference to [00:07:32] it but they don't say exactly what [00:07:34] they're [00:07:35] providing um so that's one question my [00:07:38] other question is the five license [00:07:43] agreements why are we paying a licensing [00:07:46] fee every year is this a lease is it [00:07:49] software we have and we have a license [00:07:52] but we shouldn't be charged for that [00:07:53] license every single year so I'd like [00:07:56] clarification on that sure there's so [00:07:59] many licenses because of the people that [00:08:02] use it well it's listed for five right [00:08:05] right but it's so if you have the [00:08:07] software are we paying for the software [00:08:09] where we own the software and we have a [00:08:12] license agreement you're paying for that [00:08:13] license I get that but that should be a [00:08:16] one-time fee that shouldn't be [00:08:18] recurring otherwise it would be a lease [00:08:21] so we no we have software like where I [00:08:25] work we have bidding software we pay for [00:08:27] that annually it's a c it's that it's [00:08:29] license that you're paying for okay [00:08:32] that's that's one question who who are [00:08:34] the five that use this in the [00:08:37] to the accountant the assessor treasure [00:08:41] collector treasure [00:08:43] collector me yeah the [00:08:46] administrator who's the fifth one the [00:08:48] assistant to the [00:08:50] treasurer um so I actually share a li I [00:08:52] know I share a license with [00:08:54] Sandy right um so my guess is it's it's [00:08:58] Jess's assistant [00:09:03] yeah um and in the last there's other [00:09:07] competitors I mean you you know we don't [00:09:10] have a [00:09:11] comparison of other competitors what [00:09:13] this would cost and yearly this is [00:09:17] 14,500 Buck [00:09:20] which well that's one but there's other [00:09:23] ones there's also acon there's also um [00:09:28] spring Brook is another there's there's [00:09:31] a few out there that you can at least [00:09:33] say hey can we get a [00:09:37] comparison so you put it out for kind of [00:09:41] a bid well I I would say that we just [00:09:43] table this for a week and at least [00:09:46] compare this to other companies out [00:09:48] there so we we have a competitive price [00:09:52] so if we change now well we have till [00:09:54] June 30th to execute this contract you [00:09:57] understand what changing software I [00:09:58] understand that complet switching over I [00:10:00] do at year end I get that so I I mean [00:10:03] but you're also signing an agreement for [00:10:05] 3 years for almost [00:10:08] $43,000 I Madam chair yes changing [00:10:12] Financial software isn't something that [00:10:13] can be done in just a couple days it [00:10:15] actually takes months right um to make a [00:10:17] bridge between what is currently being [00:10:19] done moving over to to new software um [00:10:23] from my understanding that the town did [00:10:25] do this two or three years ago where [00:10:26] they did go out to bid and they did get [00:10:29] did they did get quotes um so this is [00:10:31] just you know the town's pretty happy [00:10:33] with Vadar this is just an extension of [00:10:35] of that well the want you reach out to [00:10:38] Vadar and see if they have any weight [00:10:39] over them in their [00:10:40] price and ask those clarification [00:10:43] questions on the licenses and also um [00:10:47] the server the cloud stuff there's a [00:10:51] price on there for like [00:10:52] $2,800 per person for iCloud and it's [00:10:57] like we could provoke I mean you could [00:11:00] go to uh Amazon and get something [00:11:03] cheaper I'm just saying it's a huge [00:11:05] number for for just digital server in [00:11:09] the sky of 2,800 per person just putting [00:11:13] it out there so that's that's going [00:11:14] offsite and backing up all of our work [00:11:17] constantly right and that's why I'm [00:11:19] saying the clarification of what is the [00:11:21] downtime what is what is there actually [00:11:24] service level agreement with us so if we [00:11:27] do go down are we going to be back up [00:11:29] and less than an hour are we going to be [00:11:30] back up in less than a day a week you [00:11:33] know what I mean that it's worth noting [00:11:37] like it's worth finding finding out ask [00:11:39] those clarifying questions we can table [00:11:41] it till the next meeting but I would I [00:11:44] would be um we have to make a decision [00:11:46] by the next meeting I [00:11:48] understand and and just ask him if [00:11:50] there's any any room at all I mean we [00:11:52] just we were fighting over a th000 bucks [00:11:55] budget wise you know what I mean any any [00:11:58] any money that we can save W that's all [00:12:02] so it would scare me to change horses [00:12:05] 100% I don't I'm gonna be honest I don't [00:12:07] that's not an option right now look at [00:12:10] other prices then it makes sense we see [00:12:12] what we're talking about right and just [00:12:13] compare what are they actually offering [00:12:16] us as far as a service service level [00:12:18] agreement and stuff like that ask if it [00:12:21] cannot be a three-year contract it okay [00:12:25] see if they're willing [00:12:26] to do a one or a two [00:12:29] you know difference in in contract term [00:12:34] okay all right application for a one day [00:12:37] are we good yeah we're good thank you [00:12:39] yep application for a one-day liquor [00:12:41] license for um Hardwick rocks the event [00:12:46] is on August 10th it's at the hardwood [00:12:49] Winery um looks like exhibit a brewing [00:12:55] company is going to be pouring it's like [00:12:58] all [00:13:00] the tip certification is here work comp [00:13:03] all the insurance is here and the [00:13:05] payment [00:13:07] so I move we Grant the one day license I [00:13:11] second any other further [00:13:13] discussion all in favor hi [00:13:21] [Applause] [00:13:23] hi all right um Kar solar hi is that you [00:13:28] folks insurance all right how are you [00:13:29] come on over come on [00:13:35] up time I was here it was a while ago I [00:13:38] vaguely I've been on the board now for a [00:13:40] while and I vaguely remember this [00:13:42] project um it's been a long time my [00:13:45] counterparts here probably need a really [00:13:48] good overview of what's going on Tinker [00:13:50] Andrew bery nice to meet you I think you [00:13:53] know Harry um he he's very familiar with [00:13:58] um [00:14:01] how are you you don't have to [00:14:04] get Town Administrator oh great nice to [00:14:06] meet [00:14:08] you thanks um so I guess maybe we'll [00:14:12] just sit here so we just wanted to give [00:14:15] a quick overview in history um it's a [00:14:18] really exciting project um when we [00:14:21] entered the [00:14:22] RFP started in [00:14:25] 2017 um the so I'm G I'm going to stop [00:14:28] you there sure cuz I think we have to [00:14:29] make sure that that's still valid yeah [00:14:31] we we've actually updated the letter of [00:14:34] intent we've we've signed that [00:14:36] everything's valid from a legal [00:14:37] perspective we can show you all that [00:14:39] information okay so it's still um and we [00:14:42] spoke with your prior uh Town [00:14:44] Administrator I think I sent it through [00:14:46] to uh Nicole on Thursday there's a there [00:14:48] was a second uh agree there was a second [00:14:50] extension that U basically is valid [00:14:52] until we have 180 days after the [00:14:54] interconnection did you remember that [00:14:56] yeah so we we're still not at the point [00:14:58] where we have that agreement yet um but [00:15:00] we're that's part of the update today is [00:15:02] what we're well the good news is [00:15:04] actually things have moved the reason we [00:15:06] go through this but the high level [00:15:08] summaries it's all been stalled because [00:15:10] of National Grid so we sat there and to [00:15:14] the town it's worth millions of dollars [00:15:18] um because we will of course honor the [00:15:20] original pricing even though things have [00:15:22] changed um since we went out there but [00:15:25] very quickly um cirage energy uh so I [00:15:29] started the company in [00:15:32] 2009 we one of the larger developers [00:15:34] were based in Massachusetts in Boston in [00:15:37] fact most of the team is all from Boston [00:15:39] as well um we now have uh close to 300 [00:15:43] megawatts of solar projects um that we [00:15:46] own and operate we don't have outside [00:15:48] Capital so we're all local when we [00:15:50] develop something we own and operate it [00:15:52] for the whole time so if there's ever [00:15:54] issues we have great references on every [00:15:56] single project we've done from guess the [00:15:59] closest ones here might be a couple in [00:16:01] Barry I think but we've got them all [00:16:04] over the state now we're in from New [00:16:06] York to uh Maine um and what's happened [00:16:10] with the program in Massachusetts [00:16:12] they've added battery storage but this [00:16:15] project is Grandfather under the old [00:16:18] program um and the program has changed [00:16:21] um so we're long-term owners we're local [00:16:24] we have our own team for operations and [00:16:26] maintenance um every single project that [00:16:29] we've done we have great references on [00:16:31] from uh our favorite one is at um [00:16:34] Franklin Mass at Mount St Mary's at the [00:16:37] Abbey where we've done three with the [00:16:39] sisters there and chocolates and some of [00:16:41] the uh smartest people we've run into [00:16:44] but they challenges as they get older is [00:16:47] uh they need health care so they needed [00:16:49] to come up with some other income [00:16:50] sources so we've got projects everything [00:16:53] we do we try to make sure that it's done [00:16:55] right with proper screening trees that [00:16:57] won't get eaten by deer here um and we [00:17:00] work very closely with the communities [00:17:02] and the planning boards to do that so on [00:17:05] uh page three um the update on the solar [00:17:09] project so the RFP was issued in [00:17:14] 2017 um for the construction of a solar [00:17:17] array on Town owned land um and when you [00:17:21] do it on Town owned land there's better [00:17:23] incentives um that the state had put [00:17:25] together on Town own land um and if you [00:17:28] can get off take um you're all set for [00:17:32] off take you don't need any more net [00:17:33] meter credits and that's not a problem [00:17:35] with this project um if you were you [00:17:37] could save even more money but as of [00:17:40] right now what we understand is you [00:17:41] don't need any more off um so the RFP [00:17:45] was the award was in June of [00:17:49] 2017 um and once we had the award we [00:17:53] started applying for the [00:17:56] interconnection um for uh from from [00:17:59] National Grid um and we entered into an [00:18:02] Loi for a ground lease um and what's [00:18:05] called under this Massachusetts smart [00:18:08] program which is the name of the [00:18:09] incentive program and you're nodding [00:18:11] maybe you're familiar with it um the [00:18:13] aobc power purchase agreement after [00:18:16] presentation to the board of Selectmen [00:18:18] unfortunately you don't need the power [00:18:20] anymore as I said or you could save more [00:18:22] money you may have some opportunities [00:18:24] but that's something we can discuss [00:18:26] later um so to date we spent about [00:18:30] $120,000 on engineering two rounds of [00:18:33] impact studies you apply to the utility [00:18:36] you say can we put the project is there [00:18:38] enough uh C capacity on the lines do we [00:18:42] have to upgrade the [00:18:43] substation um and then National Grid [00:18:47] basically put a halt on everything and [00:18:49] the state stepped in so um as well as [00:18:52] the dpu to try to expedite so they put [00:18:56] this uh new approach um with which uh [00:18:59] they've studied it not only locally but [00:19:02] studied it throughout the region called [00:19:04] effective system operators um and we had [00:19:08] to uh continue to um have a letter of [00:19:11] intent um extension um and we did that [00:19:14] in 20 and in 21 due to National Grid um [00:19:19] and we were talking to uh Nicole [00:19:22] starting um in August of 23 to provide [00:19:25] updates and we wanted to come in and [00:19:27] talk about progress [00:19:29] um and she just didn't get quite around [00:19:31] to focusing on some of the issues um so [00:19:34] that's the update and the good news is [00:19:38] um finally we think that there's going [00:19:40] to be a release day imminent which is [00:19:42] going to cause um us to go ahead and to [00:19:46] continue to keep the product project [00:19:48] going spend hundreds of thousands of [00:19:50] dollars if not more Millions um to get [00:19:54] this project going because for the size [00:19:56] of the project what they want the cost [00:19:59] to interconnected utilities has gone way [00:20:01] up because there's many more projects [00:20:03] many more issues with the line and [00:20:06] Massachusetts needs to upgrade its [00:20:08] infrastructure dramatically as you [00:20:10] probably know um so I think I don't know [00:20:14] how many details but this is the [00:20:16] background on page four of what happened [00:20:19] with the regional infrastructure under [00:20:21] the dpu review um some of the major [00:20:24] events um and the Department of Public [00:20:28] Utilities hel the public hearing for the [00:20:30] bar AOL uh proposal and what they did is [00:20:34] they said with these costs instead of uh [00:20:37] killing the whole industry what we're [00:20:39] going to try to do is come up with what [00:20:40] we think is a fair price that can be [00:20:42] spread out over a longer period and [00:20:45] that's what are called [00:20:46] cips um so they said this is how much [00:20:49] it's going to cost per kilowatt um you [00:20:52] want to add something I was just going [00:20:53] to to say that the timing of the meeting [00:20:54] is is perfect and that as a your [00:20:56] discussion has been pushing as soon as [00:20:58] you know we rewarded the project we [00:20:59] applied and the delay has been on the [00:21:01] National Grid side and um this past year [00:21:05] that the dpu is this is new relatively [00:21:07] new them studying it's taken a while for [00:21:09] them to approve and and now they've [00:21:12] actually approved the eversource um cips [00:21:16] and so we expecting approval imminent so [00:21:18] there's yeah for National Grid so we're [00:21:20] expecting some some progress here yeah [00:21:23] so if you turn to page five which [00:21:26] probably is the most relevant the [00:21:28] Hardwick um the financial benefits are [00:21:31] unchanged you know we'd like to come [00:21:33] back and say can we renegotiate but [00:21:35] that's not how we work um there's no [00:21:38] costs the town there's no need to take [00:21:40] the energy credits from the smart [00:21:42] program at all there's no additional [00:21:45] cost to services from the town we pick [00:21:47] all of it up so there's two basically [00:21:50] sources of revenue one is lease revenue [00:21:53] and one is tax agreement Revenue which [00:21:55] we had negotiated as part of the RFP so [00:21:59] the relevant part to look at we could do [00:22:02] a longer but the original lease and [00:22:04] massachusett towns can't lease for more [00:22:06] than 20 years anyhow um for 20 years um [00:22:10] based on we had a range tied to certain [00:22:13] costs but it'll be 2.4 million to 3 [00:22:16] million over 20 years um and that's an [00:22:19] annual of$ 120 to [00:22:22] $150,000 so quite a lot of money um then [00:22:27] um what we'll do depending on the timing [00:22:29] from National Grid they'll say okay [00:22:32] we're going to go ahead they have to do [00:22:33] the upgrade work um we also have [00:22:36] additional payments that once we start [00:22:39] the development period um which means [00:22:41] we'll go to permitting that we'll pay [00:22:43] 10% of the annual lease Revenue during [00:22:46] development and then once we start [00:22:48] construction we'll pay 50% of it um that [00:22:53] period could be anywhere from two to as [00:22:56] many as four years we're hoping [00:22:59] shorter because projects have dropped [00:23:01] out because of the cost so there's [00:23:03] economies to scale so fortunately for [00:23:05] this project there's enough space um to [00:23:08] do a project that will Co cover the [00:23:10] costs the other thing that's interesting [00:23:12] that's happened in uh I'm smirking went [00:23:15] in seven years is the power of the [00:23:18] panels if you will has increased [00:23:20] dramatically so when we first started [00:23:22] looking at this project I think we were [00:23:25] probably at 300 or 320 watt panels for [00:23:29] about the same size which is about 8 ft [00:23:33] by about 2 and 1/2 3T now for about the [00:23:35] same size we're looking at 600 watt so [00:23:39] you can build the same size project on [00:23:42] much smaller space um and uh preserving [00:23:46] your land um so for 20 years you're [00:23:49] looking at that 2.4 to3 million in lease [00:23:52] revenue and then for tax revenue um [00:23:55] based on what we had agreed as part of [00:23:57] it you're looking at 1.2 to 1.5 million [00:24:01] over 20 years 60 to 75,000 so together [00:24:06] rough and tough you're looking at10 to [00:24:10] $225,000 a year kiras is strong um we've [00:24:15] got 600 million in Assets Now which is [00:24:17] always a question that towns ask you are [00:24:19] you going to be here tomorrow uh when we [00:24:22] build a project as part of the lease in [00:24:24] the planning board we put up a [00:24:26] decommissioning bond that says if we're [00:24:28] not here in 20 years here's the money [00:24:30] letter of credit or Bond or whatever it [00:24:33] is that the town can draw on uh to [00:24:36] decommission um so that's the high level [00:24:39] and then I'll let Alex talk a little bit [00:24:41] about the site yep so the it's the [00:24:43] subject site of the RFP was uh 2380 [00:24:46] Berry Road uh located just behind the uh [00:24:49] the soccer fields um I think currently [00:24:52] it's not being used um Nicole mentioned [00:24:55] there was some some dirt that may have [00:24:57] been moved around but it uh topography [00:25:01] Wise It's it should not be an issue at [00:25:02] all um it's a great site uh well set [00:25:06] back from the uh local Wetlands um and [00:25:09] so there should be no no issues with D [00:25:11] or anything like that uh it's pretty [00:25:12] pretty standard ground oned site and [00:25:15] from a screening perspective it's [00:25:17] perfect as well yeah we have we have [00:25:18] several hundred feet from the road there [00:25:20] um so should not be an [00:25:24] issue um [00:25:26] batteries does this you said will not [00:25:29] include that no okay thanks um that's [00:25:33] become a Hot Topic right now well the if [00:25:37] we do through the smart program yeah if [00:25:39] through the smart program um if there's [00:25:42] two ways to do it to maximize the [00:25:44] revenue we' put on a smaller battery or [00:25:47] something like that and put it in the [00:25:48] back um so I misspoke with a smart [00:25:51] program if we did it as a different [00:25:53] approach that would be um what would be [00:25:57] called just sort of a host sale approach [00:25:59] the rents would come down considerably [00:26:01] and we wouldn't do it with the battery [00:26:03] but to be part of the massachusett smart [00:26:05] program it's required to have a battery [00:26:08] um and the safety of that um it's it's [00:26:12] the same safety as if at a gas station [00:26:15] um there's been a lot of news about [00:26:17] battery lithium batteries and things [00:26:19] like that most of it is very different [00:26:22] from these the batteries for these are [00:26:23] in a container with a self their [00:26:26] self-contained fire suppressions systems [00:26:29] um and the ones we have seven ones [00:26:32] operating right now we have ones [00:26:33] operating next to schools and Beverly [00:26:35] Mass um on a landfill in Bellingham on a [00:26:40] uh former U uh burn dump in [00:26:44] monu um so this is a very um established [00:26:49] there's uh I think about 3,500 batteries [00:26:52] in New England right now most of them in [00:26:56] Massachusetts we us a lot of operations [00:26:58] of maintenance professionals too in the [00:26:59] area as well that are trained [00:27:01] professionally take care of that and [00:27:02] would all be our you know our part of [00:27:04] the project we would as owner and [00:27:06] operators would take care the opp and [00:27:08] when you do these you go through the [00:27:09] fire department they have to approve all [00:27:11] safety it's a pretty established and the [00:27:14] whole state is now gotten together and [00:27:15] put together new standards so um it's a [00:27:18] safer approach some of the ones that [00:27:20] you've seen with phones or or laptops [00:27:24] are very different because you've got [00:27:26] this whole fire suppression system the [00:27:28] thing about batteries like this without [00:27:29] getting into too many details is there's [00:27:31] no liquid in them right they're [00:27:34] essentially racks of desels exactly and [00:27:37] uh and we've gone over this before okay [00:27:40] with other developers in the planning [00:27:43] stages so so you're thinking that [00:27:46] they're less experimental than they were [00:27:48] 5 years ago oh dramatic thank you the [00:27:52] industry has changed um in a big way and [00:27:55] we have seven we're building a couple [00:27:57] more um so we're probably one of the [00:28:00] leaders we had the first battery for [00:28:02] National Grid um in the state um and [00:28:05] that was um in asbery and that's [00:28:08] operating um we have another one in hav [00:28:11] roll so these are all pretty established [00:28:14] and we haven't had any issues with any [00:28:16] of them the key thing is that you do it [00:28:19] the right way um and you don't try to [00:28:21] cut corners and that's been successful [00:28:24] for us I think we've looked that the has [00:28:26] a a database on the the energy storage [00:28:29] uh the number of applications out there [00:28:31] and I think there's something like 1300 [00:28:32] existing operating projects or something [00:28:35] some crazy high number right now so it's [00:28:36] very massachus is definitely a leader uh [00:28:40] with those I mean there's a [00:28:42] lot California has a lot Texas a lot [00:28:47] that's have question yes um on the [00:28:51] batteries you referring to what size [00:28:53] units are you put in um the batteries [00:28:56] would probably be um looking at um [00:28:59] what's required about the size of a [00:29:03] container you probably have two [00:29:04] containers it's about a total of about [00:29:07] 12 to 15,000 square [00:29:11] ft is the footprint okay so you're [00:29:14] talking how many storage containers like [00:29:17] steel ones two it will fit in two yeah [00:29:20] and now they're getting smaller as well [00:29:22] right and they're all self-contained [00:29:24] units self-contained with fire [00:29:26] suppression everything's built in okay [00:29:29] um do you have like a like a kilovolt or [00:29:33] power output on it or anything like a [00:29:35] rating yeah so it's it's a good question [00:29:38] so for some we have to see what the [00:29:39] final size would be okay I'm assuming [00:29:42] that we probably want to [00:29:45] do it's changed now so there's two [00:29:48] things one is the size of the battery [00:29:50] the other question is how fast you can [00:29:53] basically discharge or charge it because [00:29:55] you want to hit certain PE National Grid [00:29:57] once you be able to hit certain Peaks [00:29:59] and put it out there so it probably [00:30:01] would be a 3 megawatt battery that would [00:30:04] probably be um 6 to 9 megawatt [00:30:09] hours so that means um in in terms of uh [00:30:13] how much you can put in it and then how [00:30:15] you discharge it over the period And [00:30:18] there's batteries um are exciting maybe [00:30:23] because I do it too much but they will [00:30:24] lower the price of energy across the [00:30:27] country and across the world [00:30:28] dramatically because you charge your [00:30:30] batteries at night and you discharge [00:30:32] them when there's Peaks so we'll see [00:30:35] huge benefits with this and [00:30:36] Massachusetts is really quite a leader [00:30:39] in trying to put this together so that's [00:30:42] exciting in that um I think the last [00:30:45] slide that I have on the update is uh [00:30:48] curriculum in community outreach which [00:30:50] was part of the [00:30:51] RFP um so um we'll work certainly with [00:30:56] the town and permitting and do the [00:30:58] normal process but we've now developed [00:31:01] curriculum we do things for example the [00:31:03] Ora agricultural School High School uh [00:31:06] duckberry High School um and we have [00:31:09] built out a whole curriculum um we have [00:31:11] we provide access to the school to the [00:31:14] teachers so I can pull the data down um [00:31:17] and um there are some classes you can [00:31:20] incorporate uh depending on what people [00:31:22] are interested in from the electrical [00:31:24] side from the meteorological side and [00:31:27] just from uh the energy and sustainable [00:31:30] sustainability side so that's really [00:31:32] interesting um and what we do now Alex [00:31:37] has done them I've done them we do I've [00:31:39] done ones down at University of Rhode [00:31:41] Island at colleges now we have an annual [00:31:44] seminar we can do to middle school [00:31:46] students we used to say that middle [00:31:48] school students were more interested now [00:31:49] high school students are quite [00:31:51] interested and that's a major change in [00:31:53] the last couple years um and then of [00:31:57] course if there's any interest you can [00:31:58] have site visits during construction [00:32:01] we'll use um local electricians and [00:32:03] contractors to build it out we'll use [00:32:05] local site our um one of our leads uh [00:32:10] Civil War companies is based out in [00:32:12] Orange so we'll bring them probably um [00:32:15] syes who does a lot of work in the area [00:32:17] here in New crry as well um and that's [00:32:22] the uh quick update so if we can have [00:32:25] any other questions oh hi hi [00:32:28] um the the proposed area is a gravel [00:32:32] site for the town I talk to our uh [00:32:36] superintendent this morning he estimates [00:32:38] the value of the the year the yearly [00:32:41] value of the gravel which would be sand [00:32:43] gravel Stone Etc is between 30 and [00:32:46] $50,000 a [00:32:48] year so that would kind of be a [00:32:50] subtraction from um proposed money that [00:32:54] you're looking at for that um and you're [00:32:58] you're saying that the the site area can [00:33:01] be reduced from what it was in the [00:33:04] picture that you're showing I'm probably [00:33:06] looking at the panel size once we find [00:33:09] out exactly um what we're going to [00:33:11] interconnect um what panels you use [00:33:14] these are listed as 435s right now this [00:33:16] you know obviously hasn't been updated [00:33:17] to the recent but 590 would would get us [00:33:20] a lot more capacity yeah yeah we'll [00:33:22] probably by the time we build this I [00:33:23] think we'll be close to 700 so you're [00:33:26] looking at probably [00:33:29] conservatively 60% of the size so how [00:33:32] many acres would that be uh what do you [00:33:35] have that one else I it would probably [00:33:37] be about um if I did some quick math [00:33:40] here [00:33:42] um 12 14 [00:33:44] acres so um having said that U if if [00:33:50] there is a an area that you can use for [00:33:54] cuz he's used some of the area for [00:33:56] mining the gravel [00:33:59] so there's you know it's like an [00:34:01] embankment okay going into the hay field [00:34:04] before the soccer field and uh the other [00:34:07] end going towards uh McDonald's uh Sandy [00:34:11] gravel area so my thinking is if you [00:34:15] can um site this so that there's still [00:34:19] some gravel available you know that [00:34:21] would be a benefit uh to the town uh and [00:34:25] maybe that subtraction wouldn't be as [00:34:27] great [00:34:30] um when do you think this project will [00:34:33] be up and [00:34:35] running [00:34:38] um I think probably three four years [00:34:44] years yeah I don't know I'm hesitating [00:34:46] because I don't know what National Grid [00:34:48] is going to do on their [00:34:50] schedule so um in that three or four [00:34:54] years would you be redesigning the the [00:34:57] array area yeah okay and would that do [00:35:01] you think that would be um to the North [00:35:04] or to the South the North would be where [00:35:06] you come in the South would be we'd work [00:35:08] with the town we'd work with the town we [00:35:10] have a fair amount of flexibility [00:35:12] because it's a great site there's not a [00:35:15] lot of um civil work that needs to be [00:35:17] done depending on what's been mined or [00:35:19] grael so we could certainly work with [00:35:21] the town and understand what your needs [00:35:23] are and try to be as flexible as [00:35:25] possible there's enough land around [00:35:28] that is excuse me Alex said there's not [00:35:31] issues with Wetlands we're far enough [00:35:33] back so we should be able the river is [00:35:37] on one side sorry the we River to the to [00:35:41] the [00:35:43] East 200 [00:35:46] ft 100 to 200 it typically it it depends [00:35:49] i' have to double check um design but [00:35:52] some some Rivers would be um based off [00:35:55] where they flow from um I can [00:35:58] okay yeah that would help with you know [00:36:00] the design of it all um so the the leas [00:36:06] payment and the pilot payment are are [00:36:09] the same what you're saying on this page [00:36:11] is what it is because of the RFB yeah I [00:36:13] mean costs have change dramatically and [00:36:16] how much income we'll get but we can't [00:36:18] change it we have to live by the RFP we [00:36:21] don't do that we're not going to try it [00:36:23] and uh to your knowledge is the RFP [00:36:26] still good um legally um it's still in [00:36:30] effect because of the extensions that [00:36:33] said it were delayed due to [00:36:36] um uh the dpu or National Grid it's an [00:36:40] extension dpu is Department of Public [00:36:43] Utilities in the state thank you um okay [00:36:47] another side question is um we have an [00:36:50] elementary school and we do have some [00:36:53] old landfills I don't know if the town [00:36:55] owns the land on the old landfills [00:36:57] um do you do uh parking lots and roofs [00:37:01] sure is that something you're willing to [00:37:03] look at oh we'd be very pleased to look [00:37:05] at [00:37:05] that it's going to [00:37:08] be if we you do anything new you start [00:37:11] for those projects you'd start the [00:37:13] interconnection process all over again [00:37:16] but we'd be very pleased to look at that [00:37:18] and we could put some in and it may make [00:37:21] sense [00:37:25] okay looking at not [00:37:28] okay parking like canopies are are great [00:37:32] usage right U they're more expensive [00:37:34] right they're more expensive but the [00:37:37] state provides you with higher [00:37:38] incentives when you do them it's the [00:37:40] question it's the question of [00:37:42] Steel so steel prices Spike during the [00:37:45] pandemic they've come down not quite as [00:37:48] much you can build them a little bit [00:37:51] more efficiently we've done quite a lot [00:37:53] on top of parking lot canopies um in the [00:37:56] area we probably have one two we have [00:37:59] one paggy we probably have four or [00:38:03] five okay so just uh again you're [00:38:06] looking at 3 four [00:38:09] years I think so it could be sooner but [00:38:13] I don't know with national CL we should [00:38:15] we should be getting some feedback when [00:38:17] we we get the uh the ISA for a project [00:38:19] but typically gives a construction [00:38:20] timeline so we'll figure we'll learn [00:38:23] more on National gr delays there so that [00:38:26] 3 or four year period would um be the [00:38:29] beginning of construction the 3 to four [00:38:33] year period once we start development we [00:38:35] start because to build this is going to [00:38:38] take us four [00:38:40] months so once we have to go through [00:38:43] permitting once we're approved and [00:38:45] permitting um and then we have a sense [00:38:48] of how much work National Grid's going [00:38:49] to do they'll give us a timeline for [00:38:51] their construction then we' figure it [00:38:54] out and start our construction to [00:38:55] coincide okay just thing thinking what [00:38:57] body might be able body is the highway [00:39:00] super uh what he might be able to do [00:39:02] with the gravel that's there now in that [00:39:05] 3 4E period to move things along this [00:39:09] yeah that's it good okay Justine do you [00:39:14] have any questions um I don't I thought [00:39:17] this was a great presentation okay um [00:39:19] I'm looking forward to working with you [00:39:21] um it's the same email so anything that [00:39:23] you sent Nicole um I definitely looking [00:39:26] forward to staying in touch [00:39:28] did you come from another town or I did [00:39:30] where did you come from um so I was in [00:39:32] Milbury then I was in where and then I [00:39:34] was in Lester okay we don't have any [00:39:37] projects there but you could talk to [00:39:39] tther town administrators if you wanted [00:39:42] to I mean I think there was um and maybe [00:39:44] you involved um we had references the [00:39:47] first time around but um we have very [00:39:50] good relationships with all the town [00:39:52] administrators do you have do you know [00:39:55] if you have all the [00:39:58] files I don't be [00:40:03] beneficial i s to just I can set the be [00:40:06] perfect use the same email admin at oh [00:40:09] perfect yeah awesome not a problem yeah [00:40:11] that'd be great absolutely Bill any [00:40:14] questions what was the size of the [00:40:16] project again so so right now we're at [00:40:18] about 6 megawatt DC and that'll be [00:40:21] that'll likely it' be in the range of [00:40:22] 6.2 to 6.3 most likely what what would [00:40:26] that be comparable with with the new [00:40:28] newer technology in the smaller surface [00:40:30] area what I mean like I look at Barry [00:40:32] and your pictures of that the size yeah [00:40:34] so so that's the so the way National [00:40:37] Grid studies these we are restrict [00:40:39] whatever we apply for we can increase [00:40:41] capacity so that that will be the number [00:40:44] which just we might end up using a [00:40:45] smaller footprint so so National Grid [00:40:48] you apply on an AC value yeah Alice is [00:40:51] talking about the DC value so you can't [00:40:54] go above basically 4.99 due to uh ISO [00:40:58] New England without going into a whole [00:41:01] further study and how much can be put on [00:41:03] there so they limit you at that and what [00:41:05] Alex is talking about is how much we'll [00:41:07] have DC which translates to how much [00:41:10] energy is generated from the [00:41:12] facility I guess maybe I'm trying to [00:41:14] think of what [00:41:16] the area of the visual be like so for [00:41:19] example in Barry where you have 2.4 [00:41:22] megawatt DC right yeah that's a [00:41:25] 10-year-old project we have a layout [00:41:30] helpful and that's outdated too so the [00:41:33] time you build it you're going to have [00:41:34] 60% of that size it notes the 435 WT [00:41:38] modules will likely be closer to [00:41:39] somewhere in the 600 I Alex it's going [00:41:43] to be over [00:41:44] 700 thank you if I may one one more [00:41:47] question on [00:41:48] that um on the revenue you'd indicate [00:41:50] the revenue the town would begin when [00:41:52] after certain permitting and then some [00:41:54] in construction and then the full amount [00:41:56] on on operation and 20 years of [00:41:58] operation was that um we would sign a [00:42:02] longer I you can have the smart program [00:42:05] is for 20 years and you had mentioned [00:42:08] how the the municipality actually has [00:42:11] better Financial benefits than a land [00:42:14] owner would is there some something [00:42:16] special about it being Mally owned land [00:42:18] this smart program allowed us to uh [00:42:21] excuse me um build a larger project um [00:42:25] and also there was what's called Green [00:42:28] Field subtractors if it weren't [00:42:30] Municipal land um if if we had a [00:42:33] municipality taking the off take the [00:42:35] energy from this we also get a higher [00:42:37] value through the smart [00:42:41] program is it fair to ask you to [00:42:43] summarize how this would compare to a a [00:42:46] farmer who had the same the same parcel [00:42:50] and you said it up for them you know [00:42:53] they would get the same kind of money [00:42:54] through our host Community agreements as [00:42:56] we would get no um if we started a new [00:43:00] program today um the rent if we went to [00:43:04] a farmer today the rent would probably [00:43:06] be 20% of the level on this just because [00:43:09] the cost have changed what you get for [00:43:12] selling the energy is changed um and [00:43:15] there's certain what are called [00:43:17] subtractors for putting on certain land [00:43:20] if we had a um excuse me if you had a um [00:43:25] private owner who owned a landfill [00:43:27] then you could get more benefits that [00:43:29] way because there's incentives to put [00:43:31] them on landfills gravel sites things [00:43:35] like that help out but that's on the fal [00:43:37] in if they're close to [00:43:40] the corre and that's that's through this [00:43:44] whole what also happened was this whole [00:43:46] new Ira bill which allows us so we've [00:43:49] safe harbored equipment so we can get [00:43:52] some of the benefits of the higher [00:43:55] incentive tax credit that make this [00:43:57] project viable if we started it today [00:44:00] from fresh probably would be [00:44:03] viable thank you okay okay great all [00:44:08] right so we'll see what what happens and [00:44:12] um yep we'll let you know more hopefully [00:44:15] a month or two with Justine and we'll [00:44:17] just [00:44:18] um go through the you know the Motions [00:44:21] so like you said you know I would I [00:44:24] would just confirm what Council about [00:44:27] the RFP I think that would make us all [00:44:30] feel sure yeah that's fine I think we [00:44:32] had the discussion it's the same Town [00:44:34] Council [00:44:35] probably probably probably so so then [00:44:38] we've already had discussion but confirm [00:44:41] and you can talk to our general counsel [00:44:43] to and if you're going to send fresh [00:44:46] paper and if it's possible to redraw [00:44:49] that map that would be helpful I don't [00:44:52] know how much engineering has to go into [00:44:54] a new oh oh basic oh yeah we we could [00:44:57] give you a rough uh update on the site [00:44:59] absolutely sure thank you yeah not a [00:45:01] problem okay okay thank you thank you [00:45:04] very much pleasure for thanks to meet [00:45:06] you thank you all right next up is a new [00:45:10] position approval the assistant [00:45:12] superintendent of the wpfc it was [00:45:15] approved by the Personnel committee uh [00:45:17] last week on 65 so we're just um you [00:45:21] know approving that stamping it [00:45:24] yeah that we by I'm [00:45:27] sorry um I just wanted to um let you [00:45:30] know that the um candidate that the [00:45:33] superintendent had um chosen for this [00:45:36] position I did reach out to his [00:45:38] references today and I'm waiting to hear [00:45:39] back so that's where that stands yeah [00:45:43] great so should we [00:45:47] hire well we need to make a motion to [00:45:49] accept the position okay I move that we [00:45:52] accept the position a [00:45:54] second any other discussion [00:45:58] all in favor all [00:45:59] right we'll pross that bridge when we [00:46:01] get [00:46:03] there okay so get [00:46:08] this [00:46:09] this all right let's [00:46:13] see I'm I'm going to skip um around a [00:46:17] little bit oh actually I'm not no cuz [00:46:19] Mery discussion okay perfect Judy yeah [00:46:21] thank you um just a quick update today [00:46:24] um just to get a framework going forward [00:46:26] I think would be important but I'll give [00:46:27] you also a few updates of where we're at [00:46:29] with the [00:46:30] marylane um so today I would like to [00:46:33] just get [00:46:35] um how frequently you'd like to be [00:46:37] updated on what's going [00:46:39] on um how much you want to be involved [00:46:44] in what that update is um I think those [00:46:47] are two very important points let me [00:46:48] update you and let you know what's going [00:46:50] on okay so we have as background you [00:46:53] know Mary Lane was shut down um what has [00:46:57] come to be since then is a big mess um [00:47:00] mdev has gone in um there's been a lot [00:47:04] of activity to um um basically start to [00:47:09] break down that that building however [00:47:13] um there hasn't been a lot of activity [00:47:15] on what do we do about Healthcare going [00:47:17] forward so really big mess in where I [00:47:21] will tell you that bay state has [00:47:23] absolutely no interest in doing an [00:47:25] urgent care or anytime that type of [00:47:27] extended facility within wear [00:47:30] um and I'm going to step back for a [00:47:33] second just you know I'm a Healthcare [00:47:34] Executive I will tell you that we are [00:47:37] not in an ambulance desert as it [00:47:41] pertains to what we go by Healthcare [00:47:43] guidelines out here because of where we [00:47:45] have uh North Brookfield and with Barry [00:47:48] but we are in a healthcare desert as it [00:47:50] pertains to healthcare Itself by that [00:47:54] hospital shutting down we are just [00:47:56] outside the gu guid line or inside the [00:47:57] guideline depending how you look at it [00:47:59] as being a healthcare desert which [00:48:01] qualifies us for a lot of Grants so it [00:48:03] qualifies us for from really good stuff [00:48:06] so that's a good side of it the big side [00:48:10] that I'm dealing with right now is Bay [00:48:12] State wants to hold on to that $17 [00:48:15] million in the Gilbert trust and that [00:48:17] Gilbert trust is written such a way that [00:48:19] it is supposed to be Monies to support [00:48:22] wear and Gilbert [00:48:24] belt so there are a lot of legal teams [00:48:27] involved in this we're not having to be [00:48:28] involved I'm not asking for money to do [00:48:30] this I'm only going to update you on [00:48:32] where these legal issues stand right now [00:48:35] um Judy Edington who's a local lawyer [00:48:38] here in town works out of Boston she [00:48:40] works with a lot of trusts major trusts [00:48:42] um in the in the um Massachusetts area [00:48:46] as well as uh Delaware and um Rhode [00:48:49] Island she has reviewed the trust and [00:48:51] she'll be giving us uh some feedback on [00:48:53] that as well but that 17 million right [00:48:55] now is sitting in bake of America [00:48:57] Bas St is sitting as a sole [00:48:59] beneficiary um and that you know with [00:49:03] the hospital shutting down in 2021 uh [00:49:06] that should have shifted into a separate [00:49:08] chest several years ago and and that has [00:49:11] not happened so there is going to be a [00:49:13] fight for that $17 million um so just [00:49:17] know that that is happening uh if we get [00:49:20] the goal is to get that 17 million back [00:49:22] that would certainly augment what where [00:49:25] I've been working with Stuart Beck [00:49:27] the entire gang over there try to [00:49:29] determine what makes sense for our [00:49:32] community as a whole that means new [00:49:34] brain tree hardwood Gilbertville where [00:49:38] um and you know really the ideal [00:49:41] situation I don't think this is going to [00:49:42] happen would be for a primary um urgent [00:49:45] care to be sitting in wear and us to [00:49:47] have a satellite um where cannot get it [00:49:52] through so we may be the primary for [00:49:55] that urgent care as comes through um the [00:49:59] business development side of this just [00:50:01] to let you know um there's a couple of [00:50:03] buildings here that kind of of interest [00:50:05] for that um [00:50:07] but it's going to take a little while to [00:50:09] get to that [00:50:11] point um some of the key people I think [00:50:14] that you'd be interested in knowing that [00:50:16] are involved um not only do we have the [00:50:18] opportunity for w trust from Wester [00:50:21] because we're actually in Wester County [00:50:23] that includes unass means we can [00:50:24] leverage a lot of the um Berry Center [00:50:27] residents Etc working with romano and [00:50:30] others to to to work with and Neil Halen [00:50:33] Dr Halen to try to put together what a [00:50:35] real structure would look like um we [00:50:39] I've been talking to several of the [00:50:41] Urgent Care owners from like Holden AOL [00:50:45] others to see what that could look like [00:50:47] all of them are interested got to get [00:50:49] funding though um and then the the last [00:50:53] part of that is um we [00:50:57] we can get uh state grants on top of [00:50:59] that so if we can get grants from [00:51:01] Hampshire grants from wiester Grants [00:51:03] from the state 17 million it's very [00:51:06] feasible to develop the plan the the [00:51:08] business plan is pretty clear what we're [00:51:11] dealing with right now is trying to get [00:51:13] that beneficiary off of Bas you know [00:51:15] move that money from Bay State into a [00:51:18] separate trust I separate bank account [00:51:22] um which I think will happen um get the [00:51:26] grants from wer get get the grants from [00:51:28] Hampshire we have a a full chance of P [00:51:30] putting some kind of business plan here [00:51:33] I want to work with Eric a little bit [00:51:35] closer on rapid response because part of [00:51:38] this even though you have an Urgent Care [00:51:39] rapid response is a key issue um as you [00:51:42] go for Grants it it's very it's helpful [00:51:45] not to just have the medical side of it [00:51:47] but where we sit as risk to the [00:51:50] community should anything happen not [00:51:53] fitting ill will here but something bad [00:51:55] happens here here um we have to blend [00:51:58] with the rapid response teams or [00:52:00] emergency teams here in the area so we [00:52:03] need to blend these type of units [00:52:06] together at least in communication make [00:52:08] sure that they they uh they uh move [00:52:12] along together see what else do I have [00:52:15] oh okay another reason that we are up [00:52:19] for pretty good chance that get state [00:52:22] grants is because of story and I don't [00:52:25] know if you've been watching the [00:52:26] downfall of Steward um that was a big [00:52:29] debacle of eight hospitals that [00:52:31] basically shut down went into bankruptcy [00:52:34] those were all Mass health we're a [00:52:35] lowincome area out here um so that [00:52:39] basically that was bought by optim which [00:52:42] is owned by United Healthcare one of my [00:52:43] least favorite companies to ever work [00:52:45] with um which means that we are we're [00:52:50] going to see it uh that provider network [00:52:52] is going to [00:52:53] shrink dramatically once opt takes over [00:52:58] so the sooner that we figure out a plan [00:53:00] here in the area work with where and get [00:53:03] this together the better off we're going [00:53:05] to be uh because um if we keep kicking [00:53:08] this can down the road higher chance is [00:53:11] we're going to lose that 17 million [00:53:12] grant money and we won't be able to [00:53:14] develop this out the last thing I want [00:53:16] to say is [00:53:19] um the uh Biden [00:53:22] Administration is uh pushing something [00:53:25] kind of interesting um [00:53:27] we'll I'll I'll keep you up to date on [00:53:29] what this is it's going to be an [00:53:30] interesting stretch on Medica Medicaid [00:53:33] funds which heavly impacts our area uh [00:53:36] they're adding housing to that um really [00:53:39] really strange twist um really puts a [00:53:42] stretch on the Medicaid dollars um but [00:53:45] because of the way the laws are set here [00:53:47] in the state of Massachusetts where we [00:53:49] are required to provide housing on top [00:53:51] of that they're trying to pull those [00:53:53] funds out of Medicaid so again super [00:53:57] urgent that we try to figure out this [00:53:59] model get this under control work with [00:54:01] wear figure it out get this funding um [00:54:04] and get something started I would say [00:54:07] within the next year year and a half [00:54:09] it's it's a pretty urgent state right [00:54:11] now so I'm going to be coming to you [00:54:13] with updates Etc but I may be asking for [00:54:16] some support along the way as we we need [00:54:19] to push these these initiatives through [00:54:23] um any questions for me [00:54:27] no you just answered you know obviously [00:54:29] what we can do you know as a board as a [00:54:32] town you know to support so I'll be [00:54:35] presenting to the Board of Health as [00:54:37] well as the planning board as well as [00:54:39] yourselves um because it's going to take [00:54:40] all three groups to try to pull this [00:54:42] together um and uh it's not a it's not a [00:54:47] big it's not a small task um by the way [00:54:51] uh we do have a really good Advocate and [00:54:54] it's a friend of mine and her name is [00:54:56] Karen [00:54:56] Lynch and I don't know if you know she [00:54:59] is but she's the U she is the CEO of CBS [00:55:03] and she's willing to put her hat in the [00:55:06] ring to help us out here she actually [00:55:08] grew up in wear and graduated from wear [00:55:11] high school so uh she's exactly my age [00:55:14] so um and I worked for CVS as an [00:55:17] executive for many years so this um this [00:55:20] could be a really good opportunity to [00:55:22] bring in almost a private partner [00:55:24] private a public private partnership in [00:55:27] on this and not just put all the burden [00:55:30] on the towns Etc or just on grants I [00:55:32] think we can bring some type of public [00:55:34] private partnership to Bear to make this [00:55:37] happen so that's my update for tonight [00:55:39] I'll just continue to update that I'll [00:55:41] put this in a more formal um format do [00:55:44] we want monly any questions monthly it [00:55:47] be fine if not more often but monthly or [00:55:50] or whenever you you know if something [00:55:52] big comes up by all means okay when [00:55:55] whenever we need [00:55:56] whenever we need it I do have a question [00:55:59] yes have you um reached out to any of [00:56:01] the legislators tons of them yes right [00:56:04] down from and Goby all the way up um the [00:56:07] re the reason that we needed to do that [00:56:09] is a lot of these grants are coming from [00:56:11] the state level right so we are working [00:56:14] with the legislature on this um it [00:56:17] really helped I mean it's bad news uh [00:56:20] that you know we we lost those eight [00:56:22] hospitals here in the state and optims [00:56:25] taking them over trust me it will not be [00:56:27] the same once they do um but that put a [00:56:30] heightened awareness of what was going [00:56:32] on so that made those Avenues of [00:56:34] discussion a lot easier we work with [00:56:36] those um uh I'm an executive in [00:56:39] healthcare so that's what I do for a [00:56:41] living um so working with legislature [00:56:44] and getting them to develop programs [00:56:47] specifically for low income and I know [00:56:50] we're not all low income here but I got [00:56:51] to kind of run on that because that's [00:56:53] what's going to make this happen that's [00:56:54] what's going to it yeah so it is what it [00:56:57] is and we do fall in that category on [00:57:00] every map that is I qualify huh that I [00:57:05] qualify I [00:57:07] qualify so I start my started my career [00:57:09] in the legislature lovely so maybe we [00:57:12] can work together on that absolutely [00:57:13] that would be great I would like to say [00:57:16] something um it might have been [00:57:19] misspoken on your part but our ambulance [00:57:22] contract is with West Brookfield oh West [00:57:24] brooki bar so I just I said it's [00:57:28] West works perfectly I mean it's well [00:57:30] within the r barely like 4 minutes but [00:57:34] we're in right you know and I I really [00:57:36] don't know how to improve upon that I [00:57:38] mean we can't have one locally so and we [00:57:41] don't fall well the basic what I was [00:57:44] trying to get to there is I can't get [00:57:46] additional grants I can't get additional [00:57:48] visibility because we're not a desert in [00:57:50] that category but we are a desert in the [00:57:53] other category and that's bigger and you [00:57:56] know if we have if we have an urgent [00:57:58] care and a rapid response that's working [00:58:01] correctly Mary Lane did a huge study and [00:58:04] 85% of those coming into the emergency [00:58:06] room could have been handled in an [00:58:09] urgent care facility so we are in good [00:58:12] shape for that where um did a huge study [00:58:16] um on what was the biggest needs that [00:58:18] they did among their population and [00:58:20] Healthcare was number one and steuart [00:58:23] says he knows it's number one he said [00:58:24] but that's a really big El for him to [00:58:26] bite all by himself so um so we're [00:58:30] working together on that um John M and [00:58:33] and his his wife Jen Jen's very [00:58:35] connected Jennifer M um so lot of key [00:58:39] players are coming together on this it's [00:58:41] very helpful it felt like we were in [00:58:42] Island there for a while but now we have [00:58:44] some really good players coming to bear [00:58:46] so definitely let us know what we can do [00:58:48] to keep supporting andk you because it's [00:58:51] huge it is huge it is vital it is vital [00:58:55] if if anything happens to anybody in [00:58:58] this town right now as far as you know a [00:59:00] cut a broken leg or whatever it's a long [00:59:03] long yep right and and that's 85% of [00:59:07] what happened so we need to we need to [00:59:10] put this in in place so thank you for [00:59:12] your time keep updating you yeah I would [00:59:15] say at least monthly like you said [00:59:17] unless I can come time but I just don't [00:59:20] want to take up time on your agenda so [00:59:22] I'll give you a monthly update for now [00:59:23] and if there's anything urgent that [00:59:25] comes up in [00:59:26] yeah that would be perfect okay and I [00:59:28] look forward to working thank you yeah [00:59:30] thank you thank you very much [00:59:33] J okay um you don't mind if I leave [00:59:39] no [00:59:41] I'm um meeting minute uh approvals we [00:59:44] have uh May 20th and May 21st [01:00:06] make a motion that we approve the [01:00:07] minutes second any other discussion all [01:00:11] in favor hi hi [01:00:14] hi and uh as a side note to that I will [01:00:18] work on the two executive session [01:00:21] meetings for next [01:00:23] meeting because those have to be done I [01:00:26] also took um notes during the executive [01:00:28] session when we were doing my contract [01:00:29] so I have so I can perfect yeah okay so [01:00:33] we we make sure that those get those get [01:00:37] done so I don't think there's anything [01:00:40] in there that can't now be out there [01:00:43] right yep um we have another more [01:00:47] scholarship essay if we want to [01:00:51] consider um it's the only other one that [01:00:54] was submitted and initially I think when [01:00:57] we set forth the parameters it was a [01:00:59] female and a [01:01:01] male I think it's said or um or okay I [01:01:04] wasn't sure said andon I wasn't sure [01:01:06] what that me I um we did award one uh a [01:01:11] couple meetings ago and we did get one [01:01:13] other one that is in front of us um [01:01:16] tonight [01:01:19] so late Cara Hunter [01:01:32] there not a lot of competition do we [01:01:34] want to do [01:01:37] another we want to stick with our [01:01:41] decision to go with one or should we [01:01:44] it's it's up for [01:01:46] discussion it's in [01:01:49] here heart president going on to college [01:01:53] M Green Road Cara Hunter [01:01:56] she's going to Westfield State [01:02:00] University and was the scholarship [01:02:02] original two it was it was to a board [01:02:05] too it [01:02:09] was [01:02:13] um I would you find yeah I I would [01:02:19] also me [01:02:21] too going to make a motion that'd be [01:02:23] great okay I make a motion that we [01:02:26] approve the scholarship [01:02:28] for um Cara [01:02:30] Hunter second it any other discussion [01:02:34] what's the amount what's the amount of [01:02:36] this one 500 like the other one you yes [01:02:39] correct 500 [01:02:43] yes all in favor [01:02:46] okay [01:02:47] okay would you let the school know yep [01:02:51] that it's pass it is p the deadline um [01:02:56] so we'll have to be in touch with how to [01:03:00] get notify that person [01:03:05] y wa do you have committee reports in [01:03:08] your packet um from last [01:03:13] meeting tell administrator report would [01:03:16] you like to I would um I know Nicole had [01:03:19] done one before she left but I also put [01:03:21] something together for tonight's meeting [01:03:27] thank [01:03:29] you um so this was originally going to [01:03:31] be my you know my first 90 days of like [01:03:35] you know and then I got cold feet so I [01:03:37] changed it to 90 to 120 days okay um [01:03:41] Fair one um is just to continue to [01:03:44] familiarize familiarize myself with the [01:03:45] town bylaws Personnel policies and town [01:03:47] procedures um meet with department heads [01:03:49] individual members of the select board [01:03:51] and finance committee chair um tour Town [01:03:53] facilities and public buildings and 10 a [01:03:56] meeting of each board and committee and [01:03:57] introduce myself uh phase two is meet [01:04:00] with individual staff members and [01:04:01] superintendents of various schools [01:04:03] establish engage interest in quarterly [01:04:05] coffee with the Town Administrator which [01:04:06] I brought up in my interview M evaluate [01:04:09] Town budget for potential cost savings [01:04:11] and problem areas assess the te it [01:04:13] budget and it operations including the [01:04:16] website phase three assess findings for [01:04:19] my employee and board meetings goals [01:04:21] grant opportunities deficiencies [01:04:23] professional development um I want to [01:04:25] meet with with the legislative [01:04:26] delegation I assess the financial [01:04:28] management policies and then my goal is [01:04:30] to present my findings to you [01:04:32] guys abolutely um and then I just put a [01:04:35] couple important dates I had a a [01:04:37] introductory call this morning with the [01:04:39] USDA um which with Nicole which went [01:04:41] really well nice and then Thursday [01:04:43] morning at 9:15 I'm having my first [01:04:45] department head meeting excent excellent [01:04:49] that's what I have [01:04:50] for [01:04:52] perfect EX [01:04:56] okay we just that's all that's all make [01:04:59] sure I'm keeping paperwor right [01:05:02] here all right so we did this we did [01:05:07] that had a very nice ride around town [01:05:09] today yeah tell us about that [01:05:13] um don't s not [01:05:19] everything no it was really [01:05:21] great there's a lot of places I really [01:05:24] hadn't I really hadn't [01:05:26] yeah nice Eric took Justine on a [01:05:29] roundabout through town excellent 45 [01:05:34] miles the [01:05:36] tractor that's right [01:05:38] nice we'd still be at [01:05:42] it lot to [01:05:44] see that okay um so now we just have a [01:05:48] bunch of things to sign here and uh [01:05:51] selectman round table if anything anyone [01:05:53] has anything [01:05:55] I I do if Eric doesn't have [01:05:58] anything well you do anyway go ahead I [01:06:01] might okay um a person um reached out [01:06:07] regarding the rail trail the mass [01:06:09] Central rail trail Craig P delapena [01:06:13] who's a president of the no tuck Network [01:06:17] and he'd like to come and come in front [01:06:20] of the board and just talk about the [01:06:22] project it's been a 40-year project [01:06:25] and give you the history of it and [01:06:28] everything and see if the board will [01:06:29] give him support to write a letter to [01:06:33] tell the Mass DOT to help him support [01:06:36] and finish the real [01:06:38] TR he I know him from before he's been [01:06:42] at this for a long time yeah over 40 [01:06:46] years sure I'd be happy to have him come [01:06:50] in and I I can pass the information on [01:06:53] to Justine and she could set something [01:06:57] who it should be [01:07:02] coordinated thank you you're [01:07:14] welcome [01:07:17] question um just to follow [01:07:20] okay go ahead okay um as far as the [01:07:24] school and the parking lot [01:07:26] that would be require our fee because it [01:07:28] would be a new [01:07:30] project so people could bid on it um [01:07:34] they said that the parcking Lots the [01:07:36] state uh has some incentives for doing [01:07:39] that I thought it would be um more [01:07:42] costly because of um the things they [01:07:46] have to set up but it uh it could be [01:07:49] less costly because of the incentives [01:07:52] the states have and I'm not sure about [01:07:54] the um old landfills if the town owes [01:07:57] them or somebody else owns the land or I [01:08:01] I mean I think we do because we pay to [01:08:02] monitor them at least some of them [01:08:05] there's a line item in the budget for [01:08:07] monitoring the wells right so I would [01:08:11] assume that's it's Town land okay that [01:08:14] we could I mean that's something that [01:08:16] what no behind it's be it's U the co-op [01:08:19] land but isn't is that the only one [01:08:22] there's one behind the ambulance Barn [01:08:24] which is also the same okay so it's the [01:08:27] co-op yeah but we pay for the monitoring [01:08:31] I think 15,000 a year yes something like [01:08:34] that yeah for monitoring [01:08:36] Wells okay so they said they'd Google [01:08:39] the school in the parking lot you see [01:08:43] what it looks like they sounded [01:08:44] interested but they know it's an RFB [01:08:47] that if you're interested to doing that [01:08:53] M could be additional Rue [01:08:57] yeah [01:09:02] them [01:09:04] go thank you har thank you for being [01:09:07] here my pleasure I know you've been part [01:09:10] of this since since it originated as [01:09:12] well yeah I feel [01:09:13] old [01:09:23] older please [01:09:26] no we good I thought we did a good uh [01:09:29] town meeting [01:09:31] yes went well I slept better Saturday [01:09:35] night for [01:09:36] sure [01:09:41] right I'll talk to uh Fire Chief and [01:09:46] yeah we'll get him in for in for the [01:09:48] next one we need to uh let me see if she [01:09:53] responded Al if you reach out out to [01:09:55] them see if somebody from that [01:09:57] organization can be at your department [01:09:59] head meeting and give you an update of [01:10:02] what's going [01:10:03] on the fire department oh yes yes um [01:10:07] unfortunately um he cannot attend this [01:10:09] one um but I'm going to meet with him [01:10:13] okay is there no one else in the [01:10:14] organization that could come and give [01:10:16] give you the information he's a deputy [01:10:19] chief but he he works with an ambulance [01:10:23] out of town so I don't know if you'd be [01:10:26] available I can find [01:10:28] out um we need to do end ofe [01:10:35] transfers y so we're we need to have [01:10:39] that on our July 8th [01:10:44] meeting because we don't meet again [01:10:46] before the [01:10:48] 15th and um I will put that on fincom [01:10:53] radar as well they're going to have to [01:10:55] meet to to approve them the first week [01:10:58] of July and I know have a joint meeting [01:11:01] Chris is away so it won't happen on the [01:11:05] no we're meeting with them on the [01:11:08] 22nd right to set out procedures for the [01:11:14] upcoming year okay be on top of this I [01:11:18] love [01:11:20] it and that being said can you make sure [01:11:23] that the accountant [01:11:25] is possibly available [01:11:28] and the [01:11:31] assessor and treasur the treasurer yep [01:11:36] y y great let it be a full like [01:11:40] Financial yeah so those are signed [01:11:43] perfect I'm putting this back in your [01:11:45] folder because we're going to deal with [01:11:46] that next meeting [01:11:48] yep and that's your fold it backk you [01:11:51] when is our next meeting is it going to [01:11:52] be next week no the 20 four fourth yep [01:11:57] that's a little B yeah I'm going to I'm [01:11:59] going to soft pedal that suggestion we [01:12:01] read every week because we've had yes [01:12:03] we've had a lot of meetings lately well [01:12:06] I just wanted to know summer vacation [01:12:08] let's let it be summer let's just let it [01:12:10] be summer I [01:12:11] appreciate I do cuz I was going to voice [01:12:14] my opinion on that let juste get settled [01:12:18] yeah I know I know is her first day [01:12:21] she's G and she did awesome yeah she did [01:12:24] a she's Roar already Yes Bill do you [01:12:27] have something else if I may um I [01:12:30] thought that there might be somebody [01:12:31] talking tonight about this um newly [01:12:34] happening you mentioned it it was about [01:12:36] the email that we've been in on with [01:12:38] this Paul broom grant that Nicole had [01:12:42] begun through PB p pbpc [01:12:45] with I I'm not the one to even talk [01:12:48] about it I don't know that much about it [01:12:49] but they want to come to the planning [01:12:51] board there hasn't been time to post [01:12:53] anything on the agenda they've got a [01:12:54] deadline for Friday to get this together [01:12:58] maybe you can say so it is on my [01:13:01] radar um I I need to I want I need to [01:13:04] familiarize myself more um but I I it is [01:13:08] on my RAR and I will [01:13:10] respond what is it there's a I guess [01:13:14] Nicole had taken a step with pppc to to [01:13:19] get invited to do a final application [01:13:22] for this Paul burn Grand for historic [01:13:26] revitalization and AR's eligible and we [01:13:29] were invited to put in this but it [01:13:31] didn't happen yet and it's due Friday [01:13:34] apparently it's just just was coming up [01:13:36] Saturday some of us were hearing about [01:13:38] it from Lisa cond who had been talking [01:13:40] to cmrpc who saw was in the works and [01:13:44] that we weren't doing this kind of [01:13:46] wondered if we're dropping the ball on [01:13:47] it saying it looked like a strong [01:13:50] applicant where did it stand ex it just [01:13:54] died on the vine I guess it was about to [01:13:56] go so they they're [01:13:58] saying what's I don't know exactly what [01:14:01] the application before I don't think [01:14:02] it's been made out yet but there's work [01:14:04] that needs to be done on the historic [01:14:05] buildings particularly the townhouse I [01:14:08] guess Y and yeah that committee with an [01:14:11] Barns and Lisa with master plan and I [01:14:13] guess they want planning board backing [01:14:16] of it so they want to come in tomorrow I [01:14:19] thought they might be here to talk about [01:14:20] this too cuz maybe the select Bo support [01:14:23] would I really need to kind of find the [01:14:27] history of all these things like the [01:14:28] things that just popped up today I I [01:14:30] really need to you know spend a day and [01:14:31] just get up to speed right so um so [01:14:34] maybe nobody bugs her tomorrow so she [01:14:36] can do [01:14:38] that I think they'll be talking [01:14:41] the and and there isn't time to to put [01:14:44] that on the agenda but it's a deadline [01:14:45] so I think will come up and um well I [01:14:48] think I mean I think the chair of the [01:14:52] the board could address it it wasn't [01:14:55] foreseeable and here right exactly and [01:14:58] if it's an [01:14:59] urgency I hope they're there and um and [01:15:03] present this to us because we may be [01:15:04] asked to to get behind it so that the [01:15:08] application can be written turned in by [01:15:10] Friday then your meeting is tomorrow [01:15:12] night tomorrow the one planning War Mee [01:15:15] I can't attend okay we'll tell you [01:15:18] about and I don't want to sign anything [01:15:20] tonight that doesn't exist yet no yeah [01:15:25] she'll figure it out kind difficult [01:15:26] she'll do the best that she can to to [01:15:28] get you know together yeah it's it [01:15:31] sounds like oh really this is right [01:15:33] there to pick and make happen and sounds [01:15:36] like it be some good news and they're [01:15:37] not small I have money there [01:15:40] yeah and you could put a notice out cuz [01:15:43] you say it's an emergency cuz you got to [01:15:45] get it done by Friday and you're meeting [01:15:47] tomorrow so you can put it out there [01:15:49] about to make it to do the call an [01:15:51] emergency meeting yeah I'll make sure I [01:15:53] get in touch with you tomorrow I don't [01:15:54] know you here be the acting chair I [01:15:56] thought it would be a something that [01:15:58] qualified as not reasonably foreseeable [01:16:00] by chair and without [01:16:03] actually well if if you don't have it [01:16:05] done you you're going to lose it right [01:16:08] yes I would constitute that as an [01:16:10] emergency yeah I just thought it's a [01:16:12] different technicality to have an [01:16:13] emergency meeting you know that's I have [01:16:16] your email now so I let me um like just [01:16:19] get my ducks in a row and then I'll I'll [01:16:21] get back to [01:16:23] you Mr kerford you're acting chair of [01:16:27] the planning board while is Jen is still [01:16:30] gone yes tomorrow night I'll be the [01:16:34] chair good we have we're pretty busy [01:16:38] actually well if this is a wonderful [01:16:41] Golden [01:16:43] Goose don't let it slip through your [01:16:46] fingers 72 hours to go we're used to [01:16:50] late meetings lately so y y Save the Day [01:16:55] Mar I would Mo be I second that all [01:16:59] those in favor all right