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[00:00:01] a little bit out of order. We have a
[00:00:02] poll hearing at 6:30, but we can't start
[00:00:05] early. So,
[00:00:08] no approval of minutes for April 28th.
[00:00:10] We had a chance to read those.
[00:00:14] That's right.
[00:00:17] I
[00:00:23] make a motion to approve the meeting
[00:00:25] minutes for April 28th, 2025.
[00:00:31] I second it all in favor. I
[00:00:40] [Music]
[00:00:42] uh visitors comments I have 5 minutes
[00:00:45] before we do the poll.
[00:00:49] We do have a comment. Um the board of
[00:00:51] health just wanted to make the select
[00:00:53] board aware of the meeting that we're
[00:00:55] hosting on Thursday 7:30
[00:00:59] panel discussion from uh experts
[00:01:02] regarding um Muddy Brook aquifer. Um
[00:01:06] this is in response to two letters that
[00:01:08] we've received over the past six weeks.
[00:01:10] one from the wear board of health and
[00:01:12] the second letter from the heart of the
[00:01:14] pond preservation association um
[00:01:17] regarding um basically uh protecting um
[00:01:21] and uh taking action to protect the
[00:01:23] water resource of the money aquifer. So
[00:01:27] the the well the wells the barn street
[00:01:29] wells and wear supplies 80% of the of
[00:01:32] the water uh to the town of wear
[00:01:35] population 10,000 um comes from
[00:01:37] Muddyberg aquifer muddy aquifer runs due
[00:01:40] north it's a deep water resource um and
[00:01:45] most of which extends into hardwood
[00:01:49] hardwood already hosts a um a uh zone 2
[00:01:54] um wild recharge um protection zone that
[00:01:58] extends up to hardwood pond but does not
[00:02:00] include hardwood pond and um the feeling
[00:02:03] is that the the aquifer is vulnerable
[00:02:06] and is a water resource worth
[00:02:08] protecting. Um so we're going to as as
[00:02:11] an informational session we we have this
[00:02:14] panel of three experts hydraologist an
[00:02:17] epidemiologist um public health um
[00:02:20] expert from Boston College and um the
[00:02:24] ex-president of the Massachusetts
[00:02:26] Association of Health Boards to help
[00:02:28] advise us as to how to move forward. So
[00:02:31] um it's it's anformational session for
[00:02:34] the board of health. won't really be you
[00:02:36] know question answer for the public but
[00:02:38] public of course welcome to attend and
[00:02:41] we educate that we're going to meet this
[00:02:43] room so I just want to make the select
[00:02:45] board aware I'll give you the two
[00:02:47] letters that um that were submitted to
[00:02:49] the board of health one from the wear
[00:02:52] board of health um and the other one
[00:02:55] from association
[00:03:03] thank you
[00:03:05] That's 7:30 Thursday. Yeah.
[00:03:07] >> 7:30 6:30.
[00:03:09] >> Uh well, this addressing this issue of
[00:03:13] 7:30.
[00:03:14] >> Oh, okay.
[00:03:14] >> Yeah.
[00:03:15] >> In this room.
[00:03:17] >> In this room. Yes.
[00:03:21] Okay. Uh
[00:03:24] I have a couple of three minutes.
[00:03:26] Anybody want to have a short thing?
[00:03:29] Thank you. Yeah.
[00:03:31] >> Um um is this um being broadcast on the
[00:03:35] YouTube channel is meeting?
[00:03:36] >> Yes,
[00:03:37] >> I believe we are.
[00:03:38] >> So,
[00:03:39] do you mind if I um So, we are recording
[00:03:42] tonight. Um the gentleman who does the
[00:03:44] recording is away. So, it's going to be
[00:03:46] up in a couple days, but he is recording
[00:03:47] and it will be up on YouTube in a couple
[00:03:49] days.
[00:03:49] >> Okay. So, that this this whole problem
[00:03:51] that's been all these meetings have not
[00:03:53] been being broadcast is fixed.
[00:03:55] >> It is fixed.
[00:03:56] >> Okay.
[00:03:57] We got to order some parts, but there
[00:04:00] it's mostly working.
[00:04:05] >> Anybody else want to say anything? Yes,
[00:04:07] sir.
[00:04:09] >> Good evening. I'm Stuart Beckley. I'm
[00:04:11] the town manager for Thank you for
[00:04:14] letting me speak and have general
[00:04:17] chair select board. Um, we just wanted
[00:04:21] intended to come two weeks ago, but our
[00:04:23] respective meetings conflicted. So, uh,
[00:04:26] here tonight, um, we had heard primarily
[00:04:29] through the friends of Mary Lane, uh,
[00:04:32] then were followup letter that there was
[00:04:34] concern about the town's healthcare
[00:04:37] healthcare discussions, the progress
[00:04:39] being made. Um, and we came to night uh,
[00:04:43] primarily to assure you, um, we intended
[00:04:47] no slight um, continue intended slight.
[00:04:52] It has always been the board It's like
[00:04:55] we're intent
[00:04:57] to work towards healthcare and they've
[00:04:59] appointed committees to work toward
[00:05:00] healthcare and that it remains the
[00:05:03] primary goal of our reviews, our
[00:05:06] actions, um realize I have plenty of
[00:05:09] time, but if you have any questions
[00:05:13] about um the Mary Lane site, the board's
[00:05:17] vote um related to Bay State and um Bank
[00:05:20] of America, the zoning of towns adopted
[00:05:24] for that site, But the um behind the
[00:05:26] efforts of citizens and the friends of
[00:05:28] Mary Lane again to promote healthcare on
[00:05:31] that site for the coming audit from Bay
[00:05:33] State. We are happy to answer any
[00:05:35] questions, but the bottom line is we
[00:05:38] agree with your letter of as we work
[00:05:41] toward
[00:05:43] regional healthcare that um proposal
[00:05:46] only come close to customer that we need
[00:05:48] more in this area that we would love to
[00:05:51] cooperate and work for healthcare.
[00:05:55] So if you have any questions, we happy
[00:05:57] to answer them. I know on the talk about
[00:05:59] it more but absolutely
[00:06:03] you know thanks for the effort to
[00:06:05] citizens. I know coming up with the new
[00:06:08] CEO banko um that's great that's great
[00:06:11] to talk to
[00:06:14] different regime
[00:06:18] likely will be helpful
[00:06:20] throughout the year. Thank you.
[00:06:26] Yes, ma'am.
[00:06:26] >> Hi, just a quick um comment Alan Bors
[00:06:30] here from the friends of Mary Lane. I
[00:06:32] just want to let you know that um the
[00:06:34] friends group did send a letter to Bank
[00:06:36] of America and the AG's office telling
[00:06:39] them that the way they solicited input
[00:06:41] from just the way town officials and not
[00:06:45] hard was biased and even that they
[00:06:47] should be slowing things down. If
[00:06:48] they're going to do a survey, they
[00:06:50] should do a true survey of the
[00:06:52] residents. So, they know that um that we
[00:06:56] feel that it was a very biased um
[00:06:58] opinion. From my understanding, Bay
[00:07:01] State reached out to Bank of America
[00:07:03] specifically asking just the town a
[00:07:06] war's opinion on it and that was wrong.
[00:07:08] Bay State should have been coding
[00:07:10] public.
[00:07:13] I know I have to instruct myself. I have
[00:07:16] to educate myself. I'll have to come in
[00:07:18] and ask for your time
[00:07:21] anytime and meeting continue to wait for
[00:07:25] the audit that shows where the trust
[00:07:27] fund will be said and we'll post that
[00:07:29] online.
[00:07:36] I thank where for coming and for this
[00:07:39] meeting and I am so happy that our towns
[00:07:43] look like we might be working together
[00:07:46] and in this time when we're all
[00:07:48] depressed about the loss of Mary Lane
[00:07:51] Hospital to both communities and the
[00:07:54] beautiful buildings and grounds that you
[00:07:57] so valiantly stood up for so far. um and
[00:08:02] a trust fund which was by George Gilbert
[00:08:05] who's also donated this stone church
[00:08:08] across the way and we've been trying to
[00:08:10] save that.
[00:08:12] So working together is the most exciting
[00:08:16] thing. I I want you not to lose hope
[00:08:19] because I I could bent Stewart's ear and
[00:08:23] I forgot to tell him that I had the idea
[00:08:27] and field visited for a clinic train and
[00:08:31] now the train goes from Barry to Palmer
[00:08:38] and we have the trails and we have the
[00:08:41] ecosystem and the waterways
[00:08:44] and so we could have a clinic train and
[00:08:47] there are models for that.
[00:08:49] >> Thank you. We need all sorts of good
[00:08:51] ideas.
[00:08:53] Uh now I would like to stop uh the
[00:08:56] discussion and go to a poll hearing and
[00:08:59] national grid is represented here. Uh,
[00:09:02] in accordance with provisions of section
[00:09:04] 22, chapter 166 of the Massachusetts
[00:09:08] General Laws, you are hereby notified
[00:09:10] that a public hearing will be held at
[00:09:12] the Hardwick Municipal Office Building,
[00:09:15] 307 Main Street, Gilbert Hill, Mass, on
[00:09:18] the 28th of July, 2025
[00:09:22] at 6:30 p.m. on the petition of National
[00:09:26] Grid Verizon New England request
[00:09:29] permission to locate poles wires and
[00:09:31] fixtures including the necessary
[00:09:33] sustaining and protecting fixtures along
[00:09:37] and across a public way that is Mills
[00:09:39] Road.
[00:09:41] >> Mr. Chairman,
[00:09:42] >> yes ma'am.
[00:09:43] >> Receing your packet of new butters were
[00:09:45] notified um if the notice was published
[00:09:48] in the member news and all the
[00:09:50] documentation is in your file. We do
[00:09:53] have a picture in here.
[00:09:56] Okay.
[00:09:58] So, anybody here to speak against this?
[00:10:03] Anybody here to speak for it?
[00:10:06] International.
[00:10:09] That's self-explanatory.
[00:10:14] Yeah.
[00:10:15] just so that people know. Thanks,
[00:10:21] the the new water treatment facility.
[00:10:25] >> Yes. Specifically, um one new subfold to
[00:10:28] raise the existing hole angle that
[00:10:31] crosses the railroad tracks to piece the
[00:10:33] railroad. They have very specific
[00:10:35] guiding guidelines and any wires across
[00:10:38] that railroad. If they were to get
[00:10:39] clipped, they're made so they break off
[00:10:41] and don't infect any holes in either
[00:10:43] direction.
[00:10:49] I have no concerns about it.
[00:10:54] I'll make a motion. You want to do it?
[00:10:56] Sure. Order for the joint or identical
[00:10:59] pole locations on Mil Road for the
[00:11:02] hardwood
[00:11:05] treatment facility. I'll second
[00:11:08] discussion.
[00:11:10] All in favor? I. Thank you, sir. Let's
[00:11:14] have it rest assigned again.
[00:11:23] Um, health care task force update.
[00:11:28] >> Great. How are you? Okay. Uh, we're
[00:11:32] going to give you an update today. It's
[00:11:34] uh Neil and I have been working um along
[00:11:37] with a lot of other groups to try to put
[00:11:38] together the rural healthcare model. But
[00:11:40] I want to address a couple things first.
[00:11:42] Um uh I want to address wear. Um this
[00:11:45] has not been a working relationship. So
[00:11:48] I will start out with that. Um until we
[00:11:50] sent a letter over to the wear board. We
[00:11:52] hadn't heard from them. I reached out to
[00:11:54] you to try to get on some of these
[00:11:55] meetings. I got completely ignored. Um
[00:11:59] not even a you know I sent one note back
[00:12:01] and then I said, "Well, when can I
[00:12:02] come?" And then you just posted me. So
[00:12:05] you know, if we're going to work
[00:12:06] together, we're going to work together.
[00:12:08] But I will tell you that when you when
[00:12:10] we get things like this that says a
[00:12:12] proposal to bring convenient care to
[00:12:14] wear and has nothing to do with Harwick
[00:12:16] or Gilbertville or anything else. You
[00:12:19] can just see it has nothing to do about
[00:12:21] us. What this is is a Gilbert trust. We
[00:12:25] as a town
[00:12:27] Mary Lane was in the control of where
[00:12:31] sold Mary Lane. Mary Lane and the whole
[00:12:34] thing with the way we went. We didn't
[00:12:37] have any control over that. Okay. The
[00:12:40] way the zoning that's not our call, none
[00:12:43] of us could vote on this. We could tell
[00:12:44] our friends what to do or you know
[00:12:46] suggest things. We had no control over
[00:12:49] how that got zoned. But the Gilbert
[00:12:52] trust is ours.
[00:12:55] Ours. And we have been completely
[00:12:59] blocked from all of those discussions.
[00:13:02] And that is not right because this money
[00:13:06] needs to help this community as well as
[00:13:09] your community. And you guys coming up
[00:13:11] with some great ideas of what may help
[00:13:12] you is not what may help us. We have a
[00:13:16] very different community. We are a true
[00:13:18] healthcare desert by the way. We are 35
[00:13:20] to 45 minutes out. You are not. You have
[00:13:23] wings. You have doctor's offices. You
[00:13:26] have all kinds of things. We don't have
[00:13:27] an ambulance. We don't have an EMS. We
[00:13:29] don't have any of those things. So our
[00:13:31] needs are different and this trust needs
[00:13:34] to support our community too and being
[00:13:38] blocked from these discussions with ACE
[00:13:41] with Bank of America on money that we
[00:13:44] share from our own Gilbert. You told us
[00:13:47] and the Gilbert building you know Mr.
[00:13:49] Gilbert left this to us and you us.
[00:13:54] So, I would I'm not being mean or mad,
[00:13:57] but I am mad because now, you know,
[00:13:59] things are happening and we still have
[00:14:01] been left out. And had they not sent
[00:14:03] that letter, thank you very much, you
[00:14:05] would not have shown up. And you know
[00:14:07] what? That's not the way it should have
[00:14:09] been. Once you got to the trust, the
[00:14:12] trust is for both of us. It's a $7
[00:14:14] million trust plus, by the way. Kicks
[00:14:17] off a certain amount per year. If you
[00:14:19] talk to financial people, it's actually
[00:14:21] about $500,000 a year, not $300,000 a
[00:14:24] year. So, don't believe what they're
[00:14:25] telling you. Um, you know, all you got
[00:14:28] to do is general CPA math on that one.
[00:14:30] Um, and and what are they going to use
[00:14:32] that for? and how can we slip this to
[00:14:34] make sure that we can set up things that
[00:14:36] we've been working with with our
[00:14:37] committee which is can we have a
[00:14:39] miniature um urgent care that has a
[00:14:42] triage that allows us to cut down our
[00:14:44] ambulance calls when people fall down
[00:14:46] and actually leverage our north field
[00:14:49] because we don't use wear ambulance we
[00:14:51] don't have a fire department we have to
[00:14:54] leverage our resources really smart here
[00:14:56] with a really good rural healthcare
[00:14:58] model and we need some of this seed
[00:15:01] funding to be able to make that have it.
[00:15:03] So you taking it away and going to some
[00:15:06] pediatic care that's not a urgent care
[00:15:08] that's you know just a doctor's office
[00:15:10] does not meet our needs and you wouldn't
[00:15:12] know that because you haven't talked to
[00:15:13] us. So, I'm just asking three things
[00:15:18] from you and whoever's you have anybody
[00:15:21] else. Sure. You may
[00:15:25] >> Nancy, you're on the board. You're
[00:15:27] actually the chair of
[00:15:30] Yes. Three things. Uh number one, um I
[00:15:34] would like to um make sure that we're on
[00:15:36] the board of the trust, not just you. I
[00:15:39] think we need to be um at the seat at
[00:15:41] that table because we have as much as
[00:15:44] states as you do. Second, I think we
[00:15:47] also have to be in the meetings with Bay
[00:15:49] State cuz by the way, I'm a healthcare
[00:15:51] executive. You got a doctor here. We got
[00:15:52] doctors here. We actually built rural
[00:15:54] healthcare models all over the country.
[00:15:57] We know how to work with Bay State and
[00:15:58] put together models that make sense, not
[00:16:01] have them dup you with this type of
[00:16:03] model. This is not going to work. By the
[00:16:06] way, the year on that was ridiculous.
[00:16:07] 2027. That's absolutely ridiculous.
[00:16:11] >> Oh, yeah. At a $600,000 a year loss, by
[00:16:14] the way. That's what they're projecting.
[00:16:16] So, you know, it's not going to help
[00:16:18] you. It's not going to help us, but it's
[00:16:20] at a loss. So, they're going to take
[00:16:21] their trust money and run with it just
[00:16:22] like they've been doing. um and meetings
[00:16:26] between us, between our healthcare
[00:16:28] groups and your board so that when we
[00:16:31] take this trust and we look at it, we're
[00:16:33] building a model that works for both of
[00:16:34] us that we can leverage things that we
[00:16:37] can build something powerful here. We
[00:16:39] don't have to take what they say serves
[00:16:41] us. It's not the way it has to be. It's
[00:16:43] just you got to have a model and know
[00:16:45] what you need. You you don't they can't
[00:16:48] dictate to you. You can dictate to them.
[00:16:49] This is your trust. It's our trust. this
[00:16:52] is our money, not their money. So that's
[00:16:55] all I'm going to say on that part. Now
[00:16:57] we go to the happy part.
[00:16:59] Um the happy part is uh you know we are
[00:17:03] a healthcare desert out there. You guys
[00:17:05] know that and I don't know if all you
[00:17:07] know but we have been rumaging around in
[00:17:09] all these buildings out here trying to
[00:17:11] find that 2500 square ft of perfect
[00:17:13] land. We might be coming your way guys.
[00:17:16] Um he was looking at me like you taking
[00:17:19] my building.
[00:17:21] Um, so we are looking for that 2500 ft
[00:17:24] of perfect land. Um, because we do want
[00:17:26] to look at something like a public
[00:17:27] partner, private private public
[00:17:29] partnership, um, to be able to get that
[00:17:32] nonprofit in there and to be able to do
[00:17:34] some type of triage things with the
[00:17:36] emergency care. Uh, be able to when
[00:17:39] people fall, we actually have a crew
[00:17:41] that can go out and do that stuff versus
[00:17:43] always throwing these ambulances out
[00:17:45] there. Um we're uploading um uh
[00:17:48] pharmacists once a week. they can go out
[00:17:50] and do those kind of uh um reviews with
[00:17:53] patients um and actually mail their
[00:17:56] prescriptions to them and then do the
[00:17:57] reviews with them through telemy tele
[00:18:01] I mean we talk sort of thing have a base
[00:18:04] where you can build rural eye care on a
[00:18:07] routine basis um and um mamography and
[00:18:12] other needed things that need a train
[00:18:15] >> right that need a base there needs to be
[00:18:17] some
[00:18:18] >> some infrastructure structure and a base
[00:18:20] and and we can't we don't need to build
[00:18:23] that tomorrow with a finger snap, but we
[00:18:25] need to say this is our our vision. This
[00:18:28] is our goal. This is how what we want to
[00:18:30] work to and create some steps so that
[00:18:33] maybe we take some of the easy steps
[00:18:35] that build up more financial support and
[00:18:38] move forward to build out the rest of
[00:18:40] what the town needs.
[00:18:42] >> We have a little bit of advantage over
[00:18:44] um that's because we're in Worcester
[00:18:46] County, right? So, um, we while we're
[00:18:49] going to be asking Bay to perhaps drive,
[00:18:52] we're not going to ask for help in the
[00:18:53] infrastructure. We may ask to leverage
[00:18:55] some of their tele medicine programs or
[00:18:57] their pharmacy programs. That will cost
[00:18:59] them a lot of money and make a lot more
[00:19:01] money in the trust. We can leverage some
[00:19:02] of their programs and then turn around
[00:19:04] to UMass and say, "Hey, help us build an
[00:19:06] urgent care center and do a public
[00:19:08] private partnership and grant." Um, so
[00:19:10] we can actually leverage both sides.
[00:19:12] where doesn't have that opportunity,
[00:19:13] then again, you have a hospital, you
[00:19:15] have funds, you have all that stuff
[00:19:16] there. So, there's a lot of stuff we
[00:19:18] need that we don't have. Um, but we can
[00:19:21] actually leverage both sides and and
[00:19:23] that's certainly something we're looking
[00:19:25] at. What Barry does today, I don't know
[00:19:26] if people are familiar with that, they
[00:19:29] actually leverage residents from UMass
[00:19:31] to stop that. And that is obviously an
[00:19:34] opportunity for us as well. Now, they do
[00:19:36] a lot of mental health um, uh, substance
[00:19:40] abuse type stuff. So, that's not really
[00:19:42] a viable alternative for us on that
[00:19:44] front except for that part comes the
[00:19:46] business model or the health model. Um,
[00:19:49] but we have actually laid it all out. I
[00:19:50] was going to give you posters and
[00:19:52] everything, but I only had 10 minutes.
[00:19:53] But I just wanted to make sure that you
[00:19:55] guys knew we have this thing moving
[00:19:56] along. We've talked to all parts of the
[00:20:00] and we were coming for you guys next and
[00:20:02] Northfield. So, um, to do different
[00:20:05] pieces of it where the community can
[00:20:07] start to help out in some of these
[00:20:09] things, get more people trained as
[00:20:10] paramedics, do some of this training and
[00:20:12] position people around town that can
[00:20:14] help support our community because we're
[00:20:16] not going to become less rural anytime
[00:20:18] soon. Rural rural, we don't we already
[00:20:21] lost everything. So, we've got to start
[00:20:23] building this back up again. Any
[00:20:25] questions? Yes. Um, the the trust. Yes.
[00:20:30] Is this a 50/50 split between where?
[00:20:32] >> It is not. Um, you know, we never asked
[00:20:34] for a 50/50 on this one before. Where is
[00:20:37] there? Um, so, you know, if you look at
[00:20:40] the population, there's no other Gilbert
[00:20:43] set up.
[00:20:45] >> Did not did not dictate.
[00:20:47] >> It says for the it says for the good of
[00:20:50] the people of
[00:20:53] >> And
[00:20:54] so they didn't actually get into that.
[00:20:57] >> All right. So I think common sense would
[00:21:00] kind of step up on that one and they
[00:21:03] have higher population they have a
[00:21:05] little bit lesser population but that
[00:21:06] doesn't mean we get none of it right. Um
[00:21:11] any other questions?
[00:21:12] [Music]
[00:21:16] So
[00:21:18] you sort of looked at police officers
[00:21:20] and said, "Well, you know, um we know
[00:21:22] that that that
[00:21:24] the police department is is moving
[00:21:26] forward to try and see if we could use
[00:21:29] the old streeter building for their uh
[00:21:32] offices and operations.
[00:21:36] I think it's actually a pretty
[00:21:37] interesting idea to have a health stop
[00:21:41] there. Um it's a pretty big building. Um
[00:21:45] good way to bring money into the
[00:21:46] >> you actually have some dough to uh help
[00:21:50] renovate that,
[00:21:51] >> right?
[00:21:51] >> Um and um I just think that I just I
[00:21:55] just think it's it's a pretty big
[00:21:57] complex for a small um police
[00:22:00] department.
[00:22:01] >> Well, obviously if we were to look at
[00:22:03] something like that building, you know,
[00:22:04] I haven't even talked to them, 90, you
[00:22:06] know, 80% of it would obviously still be
[00:22:08] police
[00:22:10] side and say, "Hey, do you want some
[00:22:12] money to kind of help build this thing
[00:22:13] out?" separate entrances but have a
[00:22:15] triage maybe dispatch
[00:22:19] pull this together just something unique
[00:22:22] rural different and we have to just pull
[00:22:24] all of our heads together
[00:22:26] >> to for something that really makes sense
[00:22:28] >> um and leverage every body mind energy
[00:22:31] and um you know penny we have
[00:22:36] >> you're welcome
[00:22:40] All right. Just wondering if you could
[00:22:44] expand a little bit on your discussions
[00:22:46] with them.
[00:22:47] [Music]
[00:22:50] >> They have completely we have not been
[00:22:52] invited to any of those meetings. I have
[00:22:55] reached out to them. They have ghosted
[00:22:57] me. So I'm feeling a little unloved
[00:23:00] here. Um and it's it's unfortunate
[00:23:03] because again that you know the
[00:23:05] beneficiary and we are you know that is
[00:23:08] the bill of trust. We should be in those
[00:23:10] conversations. We should be in the board
[00:23:12] that they build around that trust. So,
[00:23:14] that is one of my asks and I'm hoping
[00:23:17] that takes that seriously and helps us
[00:23:19] out here cuz I'll be reaching out. I
[00:23:21] already reached out to the attorney
[00:23:22] general. By the way, we already have a
[00:23:24] letter out to Peter Baker. So, we'll be
[00:23:26] meeting with them directly because we're
[00:23:28] not going to be in cooperation. So, I
[00:23:31] don't want to do it that way. I want to
[00:23:33] do it together. So, let's do it
[00:23:36] together.
[00:23:37] much, right? Thank you.
[00:23:43] >> Anybody else?
[00:23:47] >> Sure. Um,
[00:23:49] I know you don't want back and forth, so
[00:23:51] I won't I will send you additional
[00:23:54] information.
[00:23:56] Some of that was
[00:24:00] so
[00:24:02] into it. We'll get into it.
[00:24:05] >> Thank you for your time. Yes, thank you.
[00:24:08] We look forward to working with them.
[00:24:10] This could be powerful.
[00:24:12] [Music]
[00:24:14] >> Okay. Discussion and vote on police
[00:24:16] department.
[00:24:31] We've already got
[00:24:34] organized.
[00:24:35] Discussion and vote on one day liquor
[00:24:38] license for Lost Towns Brewing on August
[00:24:41] 15th, 2025.
[00:24:44] August 16th, 2025.
[00:24:47] Sounds like fair.
[00:24:48] >> It is. It is.
[00:24:51] >> Yeah. Um, so this is for Los Town
[00:24:54] Brewing. They they were amazing to work
[00:24:55] with. They provided all their tip
[00:24:57] certification, all their insurance
[00:24:58] information. Um, everything is in your
[00:25:01] packet. And this is for um Care
[00:25:07] [Music]
[00:25:12] I mean, it's pretty straightforward.
[00:25:13] Yeah. I'll make a motion to uh award the
[00:25:18] uh one day with the license to last
[00:25:23] town uh cooling company
[00:25:27] for August 15th and 16th. I second
[00:25:30] motion. All in favor? All right.
[00:25:36] >> And so I have that pre-esigning and the
[00:25:38] meeting as well.
[00:25:40] >> Can I do the discussion and vote on
[00:25:42] police department appointments now?
[00:25:43] >> Yeah.
[00:25:46] >> Let's have that conversation.
[00:25:48] >> Um, so this was a request from Chief
[00:25:50] Line. Um, I thought it was done when you
[00:25:53] guys had met with the embroidery, but I
[00:25:54] guess he wanted it just cleaner and done
[00:25:57] in a meeting here. Um, so this is for um
[00:26:02] the lieutenant. The sergeant the
[00:26:04] detective position
[00:26:06] sergeant
[00:26:08] is Brian Gentile. Lieutenant is Rob
[00:26:12] Tupin. Detective is um Patrick
[00:26:15] Armstrong.
[00:26:17] [Music]
[00:26:20] I'll second in favor.
[00:26:23] Thank you. Right.
[00:26:28] Can we uh have a discussion and vote on
[00:26:30] contractual changes for police
[00:26:33] lieutenant position not?
[00:26:37] >> Um so I worked with Lieutenant Tupin on
[00:26:40] an addendum to the contract that you
[00:26:42] guys had signed um that the contract was
[00:26:46] silent on the lieutenants pay. So this
[00:26:48] would just
[00:26:50] make sure he get
[00:26:52] his appropriate lieutenant. So um Mr.
[00:26:56] Chubin is here if you wanted to.
[00:26:59] >> So this fiscal year are obviously all
[00:27:02] set budget wise. So we would just
[00:27:05] continue as normal this budget year and
[00:27:08] then the additional increases would be
[00:27:11] fiscal
[00:27:13] 27.
[00:27:15] >> And talking to Chief Landine um he was
[00:27:18] included in this discussion. So the uh
[00:27:21] the money is there for the remainder of
[00:27:23] FY26 to cover his inquiries. Um he did
[00:27:26] confirm that with Chief Lindy
[00:27:30] on fiscal year 27th 28.
[00:27:34] >> Well, we just have we just said we just
[00:27:37] have FY26. This would be the increase on
[00:27:39] that.
[00:27:40] >> Why? I'm asking because you have an
[00:27:43] increase here of 2.5% and your fixed
[00:27:46] revenue of 2.5%.
[00:27:49] So every contract that's negotiated
[00:27:52] individually, we have people that get
[00:27:53] 3%. This was increased to 3.5 the
[00:27:56] proposal based on the average for
[00:27:59] lieutenant um salaries across the area
[00:28:03] uh lieutenants and lieutenant can
[00:28:06] actually touch on that a little bit
[00:28:07] more. So basically instead of going for
[00:28:09] that as much as I would like it the next
[00:28:12] fiscal year, we're kind of just trying
[00:28:15] to spread it out over the life of the
[00:28:16] contract be less of a burden for
[00:28:19] >> so you can be comparable to aerial
[00:28:21] lieutenants.
[00:28:22] >> Okay. at the rate
[00:28:28] >> question
[00:28:32] to I don't know my my question is just
[00:28:35] like revenue and stuff like that budget
[00:28:38] >> you know we've had issues and
[00:28:40] discrepancies in our budget so I mean
[00:28:42] it's just
[00:28:44] you know it's a big number
[00:28:46] that you're not worth it or anything
[00:28:50] we just got to figure out we got to
[00:28:52] figure out
[00:28:54] Yep.
[00:28:56] Got to figure out where to get the
[00:28:58] money, right?
[00:29:00] >> Revenue is not is not fixed. And like we
[00:29:03] talked about earlier, we are working to
[00:29:04] find different ways to bring in revenue
[00:29:06] for the town. We also have to pay people
[00:29:08] appropriately. And as hard as I've been
[00:29:10] on the police, guys, I I support this
[00:29:12] 100%.
[00:29:15] >> And if I could, the 7% this year is well
[00:29:18] below what it should be. It was just it
[00:29:20] was done that way. Basically decided
[00:29:22] that we set lower in order to help the
[00:29:24] town because the budget was already
[00:29:25] started here. It would have been fair to
[00:29:28] ask for more which would have been I
[00:29:30] think appropriate but we wanted to work
[00:29:32] with the town. So that's why that's what
[00:29:34] the but there is been some for this year
[00:29:38] for sure just to make sure everything is
[00:29:42] good for the town.
[00:29:44] Thank you.
[00:29:47] All right.
[00:29:48] figure out something. Okay. So, I'll
[00:29:52] make a motion to uh approve this agenda
[00:29:55] to the police contract.
[00:30:00] I'll second it. All in favor? I
[00:30:03] >> Mr. Chair, while they're here, can I
[00:30:05] sign it?
[00:30:06] >> Sure.
[00:30:08] [Music]
[00:30:09] Real name.
[00:30:18] I like your wine.
[00:30:23] [Music]
[00:30:28] Sure.
[00:30:30] [Music]
[00:30:35] You have to change your
[00:30:43] signing as well.
[00:30:57] This will just be like stable to the
[00:30:59] back of the contract.
[00:31:11] [Music]
[00:31:15] app. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate
[00:31:18] it.
[00:31:32] Thank you.
[00:31:34] I'm just going to put the date on it.
[00:31:41] [Music]
[00:31:44] Thank you.
[00:31:46] Thank you. Thank you.
[00:31:51] Discussion and vote on memorandum of
[00:31:54] agreement for Barry EMS service.
[00:31:58] >> So, um this is a little bit late. Barry
[00:32:02] has gone through some staffing changes
[00:32:03] over there. So, I had talked to the
[00:32:06] acting town administrator
[00:32:08] um cuz I wanted something in writing um
[00:32:11] and then we'll work on a contract
[00:32:14] starting FY27.
[00:32:16] Um you'll notice that this agreement is
[00:32:18] $5,000 less than your agreement that you
[00:32:21] signed last year. Um cuz they haven't
[00:32:23] showed up to as many causes in West
[00:32:25] Brookfield. Um, so this was what myself
[00:32:29] as the acting town administrator
[00:32:31] came up with just to get us through the
[00:32:33] remainder of FY26,
[00:32:35] get it in writing, and then negotiate
[00:32:37] something in FY27 once they have a
[00:32:40] permanent town administrator.
[00:32:41] [Music]
[00:32:43] >> So, this will hold into the winter.
[00:32:45] >> Yeah, this is the exact contract that
[00:32:47] you signed last year, just a $5,000
[00:32:49] decrease and the dates were changed.
[00:32:51] >> Okay. I couldn't find an appendix for
[00:32:54] the uh uh area of the area that they
[00:32:58] covered
[00:32:59] and the police was on there. So
[00:33:01] >> So they
[00:33:03] it so when you guys initially signed
[00:33:05] these two agreements with West Brooklyn
[00:33:07] and Barry, it was very divided
[00:33:10] it pretty much. Now it's whoever can
[00:33:12] respond responds.
[00:33:13] >> Okay. So there isn't the territory.
[00:33:15] >> No, not anymore. Good.
[00:33:18] >> That is good. That is good. That's good.
[00:33:20] Thank you.
[00:33:21] [Music]
[00:33:24] Make a motion to approve the town of
[00:33:27] Barry and Highway
[00:33:29] Memorandum of agreement for ambulance
[00:33:31] service for town for total dollar amount
[00:33:34] of 35,000.
[00:33:36] I'll second that. Further discussion
[00:33:40] all in favor.
[00:33:43] >> Thank you
[00:33:44] [Music]
[00:33:47] vote on short road property.
[00:33:51] So
[00:33:52] this is good news.
[00:33:55] I think I hope the uh planning board
[00:34:00] in dealing with
[00:34:02] an application
[00:34:04] for construction
[00:34:08] has discovered
[00:34:10] that they own a piece of property on
[00:34:13] Shore Road.
[00:34:15] It's just an acre
[00:34:18] and uh I haven't even been to it yet,
[00:34:24] but I'd like uh like to get the board to
[00:34:27] uh
[00:34:30] say that uh we should investigate
[00:34:33] finding it,
[00:34:35] marketing it, and selling it.
[00:34:38] It's just the make or
[00:34:42] they'll be a lot fit. But there are
[00:34:44] people that might be so
[00:34:51] >> it's not landlocked but uh it is below
[00:34:54] there should be found to be an existing
[00:34:57] line that might be a way out but in any
[00:35:00] case it's brand new to us so I just try
[00:35:04] to get the board
[00:35:07] [Music]
[00:35:08] nice
[00:35:13] That's all right.
[00:35:17] [Music]
[00:35:18] It's in the west part.
[00:35:21] It's off of fist
[00:35:24] and it stops at a gate.
[00:35:27] Which one? Which one? Which gate?
[00:35:32] Gate.
[00:35:36] >> I can't remember which gate number it
[00:35:38] is. It's 40 something.
[00:35:43] 46 is the top of there and 45.
[00:35:55] We're being told there is no gate there.
[00:35:58] The road stops becomes part of the uh
[00:36:01] reservation. Mr. Cameron,
[00:36:04] >> does it show on the map what the
[00:36:07] frontage is?
[00:36:08] >> No.
[00:36:10] And there's I was going to try to
[00:36:12] measure it, but there's really no
[00:36:13] legend. You have to go see.
[00:36:17] It seems to be less than an acre. And I
[00:36:21] think in that part of town, we need an
[00:36:23] acre
[00:36:25] 60,000. Yeah.
[00:36:35] [Music]
[00:36:38] I don't think that's quite
[00:36:41] the grandfather's lock
[00:36:45] go into your hands really
[00:36:48] [Music]
[00:36:51] just wanted to bring it up
[00:36:57] some building.
[00:37:00] Okay, good.
[00:37:06] All right.
[00:37:10] [Music]
[00:37:14] Would you like this?
[00:37:25] [Music]
[00:37:32] discussion and vote on the planning
[00:37:34] board.
[00:37:42] >> Where do we want to go with this?
[00:37:44] >> Um, postpone indefinitely based on some
[00:37:47] new information that has come to light
[00:37:50] today. Um, we do not have a bylaw
[00:37:55] allowing us to have an alternate on the
[00:37:57] planning board.
[00:37:59] So, we need to postpone this
[00:38:01] indefinitely till we do some more
[00:38:02] research with town council.
[00:38:06] Surprising, huh?
[00:38:12] >> Okay.
[00:38:13] [Music]
[00:38:15] Discussion and vote on sewer project
[00:38:17] updates.
[00:38:21] Um, so you will see in your packet
[00:38:24] uh two documents from last Thursday's
[00:38:27] call. We had a call with uh DPC, USDA,
[00:38:31] uh, Select Tanker, Scott Potter, and
[00:38:34] myself. We were and you we were all on a
[00:38:36] call um going over the remaining funds
[00:38:40] for the alternatives and where we were
[00:38:43] going to go. For example, there were
[00:38:45] some stuff that was budgeted
[00:38:47] placed some soft costs on Lockard, our
[00:38:50] bond council that we might be able to
[00:38:52] get reimbursed for. So, the accountant
[00:38:55] was able to come up with um some
[00:38:57] invoices from a couple years ago um sent
[00:39:01] to uh USD to get their approval. So,
[00:39:04] this number on the first page um could
[00:39:07] change the contingency money of all
[00:39:09] three projects.
[00:39:11] So what we are looking at for
[00:39:15] contingency funds is on the second page
[00:39:18] and it is
[00:39:20] a modular office foundation estimate at
[00:39:23] 75,000
[00:39:25] and a surface area FFD
[00:39:29] and then the alternate number three
[00:39:31] which is the sludge basement upgrades.
[00:39:33] It's just
[00:39:35] Gilbert Millville updating the basement
[00:39:36] with some new piping and um
[00:39:39] >> some new pumps.
[00:39:40] >> Yes, thank you.
[00:39:43] >> Um all the prices are here in front of
[00:39:46] your sheet. Um I was today I was meeting
[00:39:49] with Scott and he had
[00:39:53] we had asked about alternate one and two
[00:39:56] and those were kind of worked into the
[00:39:58] project already just at a smaller scale
[00:40:00] as the budget change. So that's why
[00:40:01] alternate three is the one that's the
[00:40:04] third biggest priority of the sewer
[00:40:07] superintendent and that's why it's
[00:40:08] highlighted in red and that's the
[00:40:09] estimated cost. Um so those are the
[00:40:12] three things we're kind of looking at
[00:40:13] right now while we are still
[00:40:15] investigating some of those soft cost
[00:40:17] reimbursements.
[00:40:22] Thank you
[00:40:23] comments.
[00:40:25] >> Yes sir. So we alter the number too. Is
[00:40:27] that wheel or is that?
[00:40:31] Yeah.
[00:40:34] >> I'm sorry. What was that?
[00:40:35] >> So you you said that they recommended
[00:40:37] alternate number two also.
[00:40:39] >> Number three, not number two. Number one
[00:40:41] and two were kind of um implemented into
[00:40:43] the project at a smaller scale based on
[00:40:46] our budget.
[00:40:47] >> Right. Number three is is gild.
[00:40:50] >> Um alternate number three return sludge
[00:40:53] basin upgrades.
[00:40:54] >> Right. That's gild.
[00:40:55] >> Yep. That's what we were talking about,
[00:40:57] >> right? You also mentioned number two.
[00:41:00] >> Is it number two or number two?
[00:41:04] >> I I'm sorry. I don't know why.
[00:41:06] >> I thought you just mentioned an
[00:41:07] alternate number two.
[00:41:08] >> I said one and two were um at a smaller
[00:41:11] scale or broke into the project already.
[00:41:13] >> Number two or
[00:41:16] >> number two on this list. So it says
[00:41:19] >> is it 47,000?
[00:41:22] >> No. Um,
[00:41:24] >> is it report?
[00:41:26] >> I see what you're looking at on the on
[00:41:28] the sheet.
[00:41:30] I asked the sewer superintendent. He
[00:41:31] said it was already in the project, just
[00:41:33] at a smaller scale. I don't have the
[00:41:34] exact price, but I can find it for you.
[00:41:38] [Music]
[00:41:40] >> But that's going to come out of the 760
[00:41:42] some odd,000 or not.
[00:41:45] >> What you just mentioned,
[00:41:49] >> what you just mentioned for number
[00:41:51] number two. No.
[00:41:54] Number three. Yes. Number two. No.
[00:41:58] >> Where is number two?
[00:41:59] >> It's already been Sorry. It's already
[00:42:02] It's already been in the project.
[00:42:05] We've already paid for it at a smaller
[00:42:07] scale.
[00:42:08] >> Well, when the bid was awarded, it was
[00:42:11] the base project plus the first bid.
[00:42:16] I don't think it I'm just curious where
[00:42:18] that
[00:42:19] >> I can get more information from the
[00:42:20] sewer superintendent. I wasn't here when
[00:42:22] the project started, but I can tell you
[00:42:24] that of what I was told today in
[00:42:26] preparation for tonight.
[00:42:29] >> All right.
[00:42:32] Thank you. another. So I just want to I
[00:42:36] question the
[00:42:38] change for the hardwood center
[00:42:43] and how much do we know how much that
[00:42:45] was
[00:42:47] and
[00:42:49] why are we
[00:42:52] for
[00:42:54] landscaping
[00:42:56] which is a byproduct of bad design. Why
[00:43:00] would you pay?
[00:43:02] >> I can get you those answers after I talk
[00:43:05] to the super superintendent
[00:43:07] and I would be happy to answer that at a
[00:43:09] later time.
[00:43:12] >> And my other my other question is going
[00:43:14] to be on that station. When are they
[00:43:16] going to fix the
[00:43:18] >> We were told August 5th, 6th or 7th.
[00:43:21] Michael
[00:43:25] We
[00:43:26] >> don't pay them until they fix the road.
[00:43:28] Yeah.
[00:43:30] I don't know about the plantings. That's
[00:43:32] another thing.
[00:43:36] Well, to answer part of your question on
[00:43:39] on the rip wrap that they're putting in
[00:43:41] around that pump station is cuz they
[00:43:43] didn't calculate or realize how much
[00:43:45] rainwater runoff comes off of that
[00:43:47] slope, right? It takes that loose loom
[00:43:51] that they put down and just washes away.
[00:43:54] I get that. I just designed it as well.
[00:44:01] But the bottom line is it's the engineer
[00:44:03] who designed it. It's the engineer was
[00:44:05] supposed to be the one overse.
[00:44:07] >> It was their core design that caused the
[00:44:10] eroding, but now they're getting paid to
[00:44:13] redesign it and have it fixed. And I
[00:44:16] just don't want to have
[00:44:19] that's
[00:44:25] They calculated as an unforeseen
[00:44:27] condition.
[00:44:29] If you want to know, you want their
[00:44:30] language.
[00:44:31] >> Rain.
[00:44:32] >> Rain is unforeseen.
[00:44:33] >> Well, yeah. In a sense, on average,
[00:44:36] hardwood gets about 48 in of rain a
[00:44:38] year. And some years we get more, some
[00:44:40] years we get less. And depending when
[00:44:43] they did this construction, you know,
[00:44:47] >> I'm just saying it runs off and washed
[00:44:49] it away. It's not like we want to pay
[00:44:50] for this, but
[00:44:53] we need to fix it. Can't just leave it
[00:44:55] that way. No, you're right.
[00:44:59] >> Yes, ma'am.
[00:45:00] >> Um, so I have a question. So, we the
[00:45:04] logic I'm hearing here, so there's like
[00:45:06] some extra money that hasn't been spent.
[00:45:10] >> Yeah.
[00:45:11] >> So, why are we spending it?
[00:45:12] >> It's a contingency fund,
[00:45:13] >> right? But why would we?
[00:45:15] >> Because it's part of the way.
[00:45:17] >> Okay. Okay. So, if we don't spend it and
[00:45:19] improve our plant with it, we give it
[00:45:21] back to USDA and that's it. It doesn't
[00:45:24] lower our bill. It doesn't come off.
[00:45:26] >> That's what I wanted. That's what I
[00:45:28] wanted to know was whether or not this
[00:45:29] was coming out of our pockets
[00:45:31] ultimately.
[00:45:32] >> No.
[00:45:32] >> Or Okay.
[00:45:33] >> No, it's either we lose this money on
[00:45:36] critical upgrades. It wasn't in the base
[00:45:38] bid. We did some alternate stuff like
[00:45:40] that. So, we have that leftover money
[00:45:43] contingency money that we're going to
[00:45:45] use. And to your point, it was purposely
[00:45:47] set aside
[00:45:48] >> for unforeseen things intention.
[00:45:56] >> Anybody else?
[00:46:00] Would you like to hear your report?
[00:46:01] >> I would be happy to.
[00:46:05] Um,
[00:46:06] so, as you all know, the trees behind
[00:46:09] town hall are currently being removed.
[00:46:10] They're coming back um tomorrow to
[00:46:12] finish some more. Um, number two on this
[00:46:16] is not happening. So, that's going to be
[00:46:18] removed.
[00:46:19] Um, we signed a new lease with a larger
[00:46:22] postage machine to save money on
[00:46:23] pre-scanned envelopes for town business.
[00:46:25] We were spending so much on envelopes
[00:46:27] this way. Um, we're spending more
[00:46:28] upfront, but we're end up saving few,000
[00:46:31] on the other end. Um, I'm working to
[00:46:34] reinstate the service contract with the
[00:46:36] installers of our video equipment for
[00:46:38] select views. Two of the cameras are
[00:46:39] getting repaired while waiting for
[00:46:41] parts. Um
[00:46:43] Rick Degan who records our meetings has
[00:46:47] been was instrumental in helping me as I
[00:46:49] am not an IT expert. Um so he was
[00:46:52] fantastic to work with during that
[00:46:53] process.
[00:46:55] Working with the town accountant and
[00:46:56] treasurer on town key cards. We held our
[00:46:59] prior weekly financial management
[00:47:00] planning meeting. Met with the treasur
[00:47:03] and select and tinker on ongoing
[00:47:04] financial issues. had a Zoom meeting
[00:47:07] with the town accountant, treasure
[00:47:08] collector, sewer superintendent, USDA,
[00:47:09] and DCP on the finances for the sewer
[00:47:12] project.
[00:47:14] I'm still going over performance
[00:47:15] valuations with department heads. I
[00:47:17] think I just have a library left, which
[00:47:19] is fantastic.
[00:47:20] We are advertising for an assistant
[00:47:22] treasure collector, a wastewater
[00:47:23] treatment plant operator, a heavy
[00:47:25] equipment operator, a town accountant, a
[00:47:27] police officer, and a van driver. Um, I
[00:47:31] references today for a wastewater
[00:47:32] treatment plant operator. So tomorrow I
[00:47:35] will be off offering the position
[00:47:37] pending the select approval. Um had a
[00:47:41] department head meeting where we
[00:47:42] discussed the new AP schedule. Insurance
[00:47:44] claims time off upcoming training. We
[00:47:47] are switching our AP to do every other
[00:47:50] week. So payroll and payables are not
[00:47:52] due in the same week. We're not draining
[00:47:54] our accounts weekly. It's not extra
[00:47:55] pressure on the treasur and the
[00:47:57] accountant. And that way it also it's
[00:47:59] just I've never seen it done both in the
[00:48:02] same week. Um, so this is just more of a
[00:48:05] standard operating procedure.
[00:48:09] Um, met with the new police chief and
[00:48:12] police lieutenant on roles and
[00:48:14] responsibilities. Uh, I attended an
[00:48:16] event at the Barry Senior Center. I
[00:48:18] attended a capital planning committee
[00:48:20] and a finance committee meeting by
[00:48:22] phone. Had a call with the supervisor of
[00:48:25] records through the secretary of the
[00:48:27] commonwealth and our various complaints.
[00:48:29] I have a couple people I want to
[00:48:31] recognize. I already recognize Mr.
[00:48:32] Degan, who was really helpful getting
[00:48:35] the camera situation rectified, but I
[00:48:37] also want to recognize Chief Kevin
[00:48:39] Landee on a smooth transition for the
[00:48:40] process. I always knew he was great to
[00:48:43] work with, but just seeing him already
[00:48:45] jump into action. He already had a
[00:48:46] department meeting with the officers.
[00:48:49] He's been, you know, he brought the new
[00:48:51] lieutenant to the department head
[00:48:53] meeting and he's just been, it's been
[00:48:55] really great to see him thrive and just
[00:48:57] see him um just the transition has been
[00:49:00] so smooth with the chief retiring and
[00:49:02] him taking over. So, I just deserve to
[00:49:04] be recognized for that.
[00:49:07] A few important dates. Our public
[00:49:09] records law training at Eagle Hill
[00:49:11] School is August 18th from 4 to 6 for
[00:49:13] all staff and elected officials. I'll be
[00:49:16] sending out more reminder emails about
[00:49:17] RSVPing
[00:49:19] um because we have to I just want to
[00:49:20] make sure we have enough material
[00:49:23] and national night out at Quad Regional
[00:49:25] High School is from 5 to 7:30 on August
[00:49:28] 5th and that's just my vacation in
[00:49:30] September. And that's
[00:49:33] all I have tonight.
[00:49:36] >> Thank you.
[00:49:42] Um sure.
[00:49:45] You got anything?
[00:49:47] Um, I wanted to talk about the plantings
[00:49:50] at the pumping station
[00:49:53] cuz that was on the original plan. So,
[00:49:56] I'm hoping that there'll be something
[00:49:58] left up where we do that. It will make
[00:50:01] uh Miss Henshaw happy. And I think it's
[00:50:06] time we send a letter to the land trust
[00:50:08] thanking them for the donation of that
[00:50:11] land. So,
[00:50:17] Mr. Chair.
[00:50:18] >> Yes.
[00:50:20] >> Is there this how how long ago did you
[00:50:22] say this was? Just so I can I can go
[00:50:24] back and look through the minutes to
[00:50:25] kind of to get more of the details for
[00:50:26] the thank you letter.
[00:50:30] >> It was they didn't
[00:50:33] they didn't donate the land. I'm pretty
[00:50:35] sure it's just
[00:50:37] >> Yeah, I think you're right.
[00:50:39] So it was put on imaginary land. Nobody
[00:50:45] [Music]
[00:50:52] think
[00:50:59] I have something.
[00:51:02] uh at uh the Wheel Red Water District
[00:51:05] meeting uh last week, it came up that
[00:51:08] the town uh well we provide water to the
[00:51:14] Highway Veterans Park, the Wheel Red
[00:51:17] Water District, and that uh there is an
[00:51:23] overdue payment and the new balance
[00:51:27] uh due which would all come to about
[00:51:29] $900.
[00:51:31] We decided in lie of taxes
[00:51:35] that we would uh forgo any further
[00:51:37] payments or uh the
[00:51:41] the balance that's due
[00:51:44] to the account for the right for the uh
[00:51:48] veteran hardware veterans part.
[00:51:50] >> Can we talk at some point so I can make
[00:51:52] sure we didn't already pay it?
[00:51:53] >> Okay.
[00:51:54] >> Okay. Is that
[00:51:54] >> okay? Absolutely. I I don't think we did
[00:51:57] because everybody we were going through
[00:51:59] everything at that point.
[00:52:00] >> So, I just want to just verify whatever,
[00:52:03] but thank you.
[00:52:06] >> Thanks.
[00:52:07] >> You're welcome.
[00:52:10] >> I think we should um reach out to Eagle
[00:52:13] Hill and discuss possibly opening up the
[00:52:17] pilot with them. Are we negotiating
[00:52:19] because they mentioned they want to do a
[00:52:21] new dormatory and I don't know the
[00:52:24] particulars on it. And um they're doing
[00:52:28] more houses right now on their site.
[00:52:32] So
[00:52:35] should we ask them to come in?
[00:52:37] >> Yeah. Open up some communication with
[00:52:39] them. Talk to them invite them in
[00:52:43] here. Yeah.
[00:52:44] >> I think that would be a great idea.
[00:52:47] Let's do this.
[00:52:48] >> Yes.
[00:52:48] >> Why do you want this? Let's quickly
[00:52:53] we have what did we put off from tonight
[00:52:56] till the next meeting the RFP
[00:53:01] personnel committee we wanted a couple
[00:53:03] of things there
[00:53:05] personnel meeting just so we can discuss
[00:53:07] certain things
[00:53:08] >> you just have to let me know what you
[00:53:09] want on the agenda for that
[00:53:10] >> okay and as a date you want to try for
[00:53:14] it on our next meeting
[00:53:17] >> we can we can we talk to
[00:53:20] because it is vacation time and people
[00:53:23] are not being around. Right. Right. So,
[00:53:29] it's a good idea.
[00:53:37] Anybody else?
[00:53:41] We're going to go into an executive
[00:53:42] session, so we have to throw you out of
[00:53:47] >> Thanks for coming.
[00:53:53] [Music]
[00:53:59] You don't have to leave. Actually, no
[00:54:01] executive session.
[00:54:19] two
[00:54:21] against
[00:54:37] tomorrow
[00:54:38] morning after that.
[00:54:43] All
[00:54:56] right.
[00:55:00] So, you don't need to go into
[00:55:06] >> Well, both parties have to be notified
[00:55:09] session. I was notified. Well, you're
[00:55:12] the one with the complaint if it's
[00:55:14] against me and I have the right to have
[00:55:18] it.
[00:55:20] >> No, I don't.
[00:55:23] >> I notified you
[00:55:24] >> and I was notified.
[00:55:26] >> You notified me that this was going to
[00:55:27] be an open
[00:55:30] today. So, they didn't see my computer.
[00:55:34] So, it seems directed
[00:55:37] look at it. I I understand that. But
[00:55:40] so what do you want to do now?
[00:55:45] >> I know what I want to do.
[00:55:47] >> It's up to you. You're running the show
[00:55:48] here, Mr.
[00:55:50] >> Well, if we have an executive session
[00:55:52] and you're both supposed to be notified
[00:55:56] and we don't know if we're going to be
[00:55:59] in secret or out in public.
[00:56:02] Um my hope here was to get
[00:56:07] the town administrator and select new
[00:56:10] tankers to where they're talking can
[00:56:13] function together. So that's I don't
[00:56:18] know about all the laws, regulations,
[00:56:21] any of that. My only point and my urge
[00:56:24] is to try to get through this. So, if
[00:56:29] all we're going to do is argue about
[00:56:30] whether this meeting is valid, then
[00:56:34] I'll look for a motion to adjourn
[00:56:38] or hope that we can have a conversation.
[00:56:43] Well, how can I have a conversation,
[00:56:47] right, with allegations against me?
[00:56:50] That's where we have that's what we have
[00:56:52] to talk about. So, I would think that's
[00:56:55] what you guys would want to talk about.
[00:56:58] >> We did talk about that at the last
[00:57:00] executive session, right?
[00:57:02] >> And nothing happened since.
[00:57:04] >> I made three attempts to meet have set
[00:57:06] up a meeting with Mr. Tinker. Um, and he
[00:57:09] has not returned a phone call. I waited
[00:57:12] for 6 hours. He didn't show up to a
[00:57:14] meeting today and Saturday. I completely
[00:57:17] understand. If you get called into work,
[00:57:18] that's completely understandable. I told
[00:57:21] you last week. No, I have text messages
[00:57:24] that say
[00:57:25] >> I cannot meet with you
[00:57:26] >> and I
[00:57:27] >> I heard that you two were going to meet
[00:57:29] on Saturday. How can I meet with
[00:57:31] somebody who's making allegations
[00:57:33] against me and and be able to trust that
[00:57:36] person in a private meeting? So where
[00:57:38] how can we fix that? I don't know. How
[00:57:41] can we fix that? I'm not I'm not making
[00:57:44] the allegations here. We have to fix it.
[00:57:46] Well, we're talking one day to make sure
[00:57:50] we're here.
[00:57:53] >> But we're locking down.
[00:57:56] >> Yeah. Um,
[00:57:59] Mr. Chairman.
[00:58:00] >> Yes, sir. I I move to a journal. We're
[00:58:03] not getting anywhere with this.
[00:58:07] How about you mediate?
[00:58:10] Well, my next thing is to
[00:58:13] seek a motion to hire a professional
[00:58:16] mediator.
[00:58:17] >> Why hire a mediator? Why don't you do an
[00:58:19] investigation like Tom Council asked?
[00:58:28] The answer is going to come out of a
[00:58:30] meeting like this. An investigation.
[00:58:33] There's two people here. Mhm.
[00:58:35] >> So, and one is accusing the other.
[00:58:39] Okay.
[00:58:39] [Music]
[00:58:41] and making allegations that are quite
[00:58:45] frankly false. Well, it's beyond me to
[00:58:49] uh do it unless we uh get a professional
[00:58:52] mediator or there's motion in this
[00:58:55] conversation right now cuz we this is
[00:58:58] where we were last week.
[00:59:00] >> I support a professional mediator and
[00:59:01] just help to get results right.
[00:59:04] >> I I do what town council says and do an
[00:59:07] investigation.
[00:59:10] Because how how how can I possibly cause
[00:59:13] a hostile work environment if I'm not in
[00:59:15] communication and only request emails?
[00:59:18] My emails are in the town clerk's
[00:59:20] office. Anybody can take them. Anyone
[00:59:23] can see them and show me the hostile
[00:59:26] work environment.
[00:59:28] >> So right now my rights are being
[00:59:30] violated. So I was I would recommend the
[00:59:32] board make a decision.
[00:59:34] >> Mr. Chairman, my motion to adjourn
[00:59:37] stands.
[00:59:40] Can I have a second?
[00:59:42] I I'll second.
[00:59:46] I'll investigate. Investigate.
[00:59:49] I don't know yet. It seems worthless to
[00:59:52] me, but
[00:59:54] you understand.
[00:59:57] I think I think it's that long.
[01:00:00] >> It's not when somebody abuses you and it
[01:00:03] can affect your life over allegations.
[01:00:06] It's not overblown. Well, it's happened
[01:00:09] to me. I survived it
[01:00:13] in other situations.
[01:00:16] But if you'll second it
[01:00:19] motion, right? Call for a vote. All in
[01:00:23] favor? I
[01:00:24] >> I
[01:00:26] approve for what to a jar.
