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The Hardwick Select Board convened on September 23, 2024, addressing a range of municipal issues. Key discussions included the ongoing challenges in financing a new fire truck and exploring grant opportunities, as well as the need for an updated post-community agreement to advance the 94 Main Street project. Significant time was dedicated to reviewing a new, extensive event form for activities on the Town Common, with residents expressing concerns about liability waivers and the burden on volunteers, leading to a decision to revisit the form. The Board also approved appointments to the Highway Department and the Healthcare Task Force, discussed the maturing Morse Scholarship CD, and addressed a critical issue with the town's non-911 compliant phone system, necessitating a new warrant article for funding. Various administrative updates, project statuses, and upcoming civic events were also reported.
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Allegiance pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America stands God indivisible and justice for thank you
Everybody hi have a SE good how are you I'll open discussion for visitor comments at this point so I I taking the gentleman no no goad okay just Jeff Smith thank you from upper Church Street um at a previous
Meeting uh Mr Tinker brought up a lot of recommendations about how the town might go about financing the fir Tru and I didn't see it on the agenda for tonight I haven't heard anything since so I was just curious if there's any action or inaction relative to those recomend we've been discussing it and actually
I'm going to bring it up during selectman round D awesome thank you thank you anybody else sir yes I'm Ezra pach I am a consultant for George Lang here who is doing the 94 main building of the canabas project at 94 Main Street and uh we just wanted to we
May need to be on the agenda to have a longer discussion period but we just wanted to inform the select board that the state has uh required an update dated post Community agreement and the town attorney is working on it and and George's attorney is working on it
As well um but we've stopped making progress on it because we're not sure whether to move forward on the project based on uh whether we can actually get a new contract so some contracts have have um spread out to many months
And delayed companies and so it's a risk it's a risk for for George and the money he's put into it so we're just bringing that to the board that uh in order for us to move forward on that project we should have a discussion on on just making sure that the poost community agreement is in line with what the state
Needs and we realize that they've been sort of all over the place the C and it was my understanding that the attorneys were speaking so that was where we were at um knowing that at some point there would be conversation with uh Justine and you know our
Attorney to get that going for sure yeah the uh George's attorney uh and uh your town attorney they're working on about 30 different projects around different cities so he's very familiar with their their approach and that it's KP law and their stance has been
Essentially to just hold steady with the host agreements that they have and those host Agreements are not being um deemed compliant by the state when when the state doesn't deem compliant and KP law says we have a different interpretation the businesses that are trying to
Open get caught in the mle so what typically happens is you rely on the on the attorney we have to we're certainly not attorneys so I mean we certainly can't go into an agreement without some representation but you can decide whether you want a
Bus to move forward in your town or not so there are compant Community agreements and we've come this far to see you not finish your project we've all been waiting very eagerly for things to get going down there sure so this is just a scenario where the T
The town attorney who has made decisions in dozens of other communities um it is not of the same mind is my opinion you know she's basing it on a contract which is based on previous uh the previous law
From pre 2022 do you have any insight as to I assume it's Nicole cassan so it isn't uh I that's not her take um when it comes to hardw she knows we want you know you know we invested a lot of time it with this company so that's not what it is at all I my understanding is that
She requested a couple things and she's just waiting uh but I haven't haven't touched SP with her I wasn't I didn't even know that the two attorneys had talked yet okay so maybe we follow up with them and I don't I mean I won't speak for the board as a whole but like I said I don't think we've come this far
For us to not see you get going and yeah and and you know do what you need to do if it could Dave L and I've seen you guys before I think we thought we were on tonight and so there's a not your issue between there the communications some place because we thought we were
Pretty close that the issue was as Ezra just said that it's it's a philosophical decision not a legal one that's what this board is for how about we tentatively schedule them for our next meeting and then um so that we have the time to deal with anything that we
May have to deal with and in the meantime you know Justine's definitely a good point of contact to uh keep on the attorneys we have to do we have to do the same yeah thank you thank you for your time thank
You anyone else hi do um I'd like to discuss the events form that we have to fell out now for the hardw Christmas on the common and probably also for the Hardwick um so there is a lot of stuff that needs to be filled out on there and
When I did have a meeting the other day I was told me I'm looking too much into this form but if I am then why is there so many things on there that we have to do contact police contact the fire contact building make people who are going to have tents pay for insurance now for their tents on the common um not
Only that we have to na sign a hold hard hardness or whatever so if someone gets hurt if I sign my name to that now I'm the one that's responsible for all their bills medical and everything and I understand it's not part of the Town either but it is on the town common is there not any insurance on there for the
Town so of course there is so I'm going to back up a little bit when anything new comes out it's always met with some sort of resistance or questions or confusion or or what and I I get it just about every town in the
Commonwealth has an events form that needs to be filled out for events we should have been doing this for years years and we weren't we were not protecting the town to the best that we could full well knowing that yes it's on Town property if something happens our insurance is likely to respond
Regardless or have to at least defend to figure out what's wrong or what went wrong I understand that you guys are a bunch of moms been there you know I've been there Paula yep you just had me sign a disclosure that holds Christmas
On the common not responsible for things when filling out the vendor form up so it's it's always there like so to say that yet you know don't overthink it I'm kind of going to say the same thing we simply want and we
Want our departments especially Public Safety to know what's going on to know what events are going on and I know you all have reached out to the police in the past and made sure you know the Common's blocked off or there's lights and stuff like that this just streams streamlines it so that anyone having an
Event is doing the same thing we did have an event happening that we weren't fully aware of and it's what kind of you know prompted us to go ahead and you know look at this and Justine did a lot of looking around in the past week to
Just discover that literally every town you know she stopped at like 50 has one of these forms that towns fill out it's to protect us that's what we're that's what we have to do is we have to protect the town we're certainly not looking to take away from anything that you guys
Are doing for the kids of this community but if we don't sign that form it does take away that release then it does take away from that cuz I'm not going to sign that form neither is the tril treats we don't have representation to do that I we've been doing this you know ours is a little
Different it's not an event it's not a special event it's part of the town's trick-or-treating you'd be trick-or-treating regardless all we did was help people direct to a place because we're so far spread out so there is no committee there is no group it started with me and another mom that Mom
Dropped out and it's the other mom I've been trying to get off for years but I can't the reason I'm here is cuz she couldn't be here the problem is we're not going to sign it either we don't have insurance we can't go buy insurance we don't charge for anything all we do is help get people here yes you can be
Here you need to follow these rules for the town's benefit we talk to the chief we let we tell him this is the suggested date but if there's something better let us know it's never a discussion an argument anything it's really just a helping to bring the trick-or-treating to one local place for parents and kids
It's already the town's already trick-or-treating it's not a special event that we're doing so for us to have to fill out event forms and sign liabilities and everything as I said I am happy on any place that we advertise it or tell people when it's going to what the time mostly it's just people
Asking what's the time that it is for us to do that I have no problem saying just understand that when you come to trick-or-treating just like any other town when you're trick-or-treating you're on your own if you trip up Mrs Brown's chair stairs you're on your own I have no problem enforcing that I'm
Not going to I'm not signing liability waves or anything else it's it's sad because it'll yes Chief go ahead I hear I hear both sides um I love the form for notifications and all the bells and whistles comes with but I hear their
Concerns what if there's something middle of a row where if she has the energy to create who's going to be there what's going to you know kind of what's going on and present to the town maybe the town could be the one that signs it to wor take away the worry but just some we who's going to set something up and
Make sure it's going to be safe for the kids maybe they can Channel any that way convey it to Justine to present it to you guys so everybody feels safe and maybe try that Ang I certainly don't want to see things not happen correct a good thing it wasn't the intention the energ is good for the kids
It's it's also just not a one-sized fit all form you know it's not all the events are different it should just be one form to explain what is your event and then at that point it should be brought whether we need to do anything else you know based on if you know John has another event at the winery that's
Going to be super huge you know he could bring it to Justine say this is the form this is what's going on then Justine can say okay now I want you to reach out to this that and this but the Christmas on the common is just a very simple thing that we just have the common totally understood and now you're going to look
At that little girl in colar she's not going to have anything in fun in town to do you know what I'm saying that's not what we're trying to do but it feels that way by having the scor and that if not again it's our job to protect the town I understand it but I also so no one's trying to take fun away from the
Kids but it's also I was told that we could be also be a subcommittee you guys don't have to fund anything wouldn't that be covered underneath everything if we were a sub committee the so this is we we're having a conversation yep and that's one of the things that I'm asking okay it's also an
Issue for the fair see it's war is also an issue for the hardw work Fair things like having to notify all the abutters like the the amount of planning that we already do the few volunteers that do it
M my life is trash for like 3 months because of the fair if I then have to figure out who has to go door too and tell every a butter on the common that the fair is happening every the fair always happens the same weekend every
Year and when I took over as secretary I was actually told that the when uh don boothman was in charge of the cemetery commission the fair was granted access and kind of control over the common third week in August every weekend so
Where does that put the I don't I don't know anything about relationship to the for we already we have insurance we you know we have all of those pieces but there are other pieces that add an additional burden onto volunteers that are already burdened yeah go ahead could
I suggest that we revisit this that everybody that spoke with points and I know that there are others and I have some myself let's I'd suggest that we look at what we have
And come back to the next meeting with bullets maybe suggestions and get and you have it on the table in front of us I missed this meeting and that's my fault but I I wouldn't mind you know kind of going over it again and trying
To stamp some of the stuff out I'm open to that I'm fine with that um but you also made one of the statements and I just want a clarification is she out the form it goes to Justine and Justine's job is to contact the police or the health department or
No the form says we would have to we have to go around to all the Departments go ahead I just want to touch on a few things I mention um everyone knows about the Hardwick Fair he posted in the paper on on you know online and everywhere that's notifying me about like everybody knows about the Hardwick fair I just
Want to make sure you that's clear um so Angie was right that it's it's not a one- siiz fits-all form so it really just depends if you read that first page it talks about every you know different events if you need a dumpster if you need um a detail or whatever that's why that front sheet is there that's why
It's so cumbersome because it talks about different things that you need so it really just depends on the type of event you may not need to notify five fire just but bring but it was also that last page you were like you have to go around to the different boards now I'm a working mother I have sports I have
Everything else I to try to do this event now with only two volunteers which is the other one behind me so I don't really have time to kind of run around and and if this town doesn't have a lot of volunteers we wouldn't want to Tire the ones that we do have that will want to do stuff for us so I no I appreciate
The volunteers especially and I told you I wanted to go to Christmas on the common I was intending to go I put it on my calendar I want to go but right now I'm stand um but we also have to treat everyone the same and Equitable and you know that's how other towns get in trouble is if you know they let this
Person do this but then then this person can't do this CU they have to do this we have to make sure we're treating everyone we're treating everyone the same that isn't what we're saying though I think that what she's proposing is exactly what the rest of us have been saying is we it a better approach seems
To be that you submit a summary of your event and what that looks like what the hours are Who's involved in it and then you get told okay because of this these are the requirements but that's not what it is you're asking asking people to sign a liability uh yes we are but the second that's not going to happen to a
Bunch of volunteers you tell us it's not that's the bottom line move I think that we I think that we revisit this at our next meeting and if could move that people could mark up what they've got and find out you know and just to help the conversation and see maybe we can
Change some of maybe we can some of so what would adding us to a subcommittee like Parks they put trick-or-treating say that again Parks sponsored the trick or
Treaty they they wouldn't have to their they're covered under our insurance then then then you'd be covered yeah if you sponsored it so the park and rock sponsors the trailer troops and also the that were
Would it not be easier to just have us ad on as a subcommittee but you're already if if if that's a department that's willing to sponsor the events okay then you're covered okay you still like to go over this
Still I think for the fair also and like whoever else is going to throw events because it does seem like if you're so the fair is a little bit different because they do have insurance you do go through all the building inspector the so that form probably is okay for them you know and now that we've clarified
Notifying the abutters because it's advertised endlessly you know then you but there might be like us to try to pay for a one-day insurance policy is going to be a lot of money no and I don't think it's I don't think insurance is required for something but if they get but that's the
Problem if we're signing that form we're held responsible now I so if I sign that form and I say okay this is it that person say Eric bhim gets hurt on the common falls down then he's going to say we're we're going to rethink this and that's the problem is we don't have the but right now if if Parks and Rec
Sponsors it you're covered we want to see these events happen you know anybody we want to work with you we don't want my husb our job as officials we have to protect to the best understand that we don't want to have the town get suit either
But we want to have these events that have been going on forever and have always been going on and then all of a sudden now it's like and I feel like we're getting punished because of one event so no one there's no there's no one's getting punished we implemented a a procedure for events that was
Necessary to do and like you know we can't pick and choose either so it has to be a pretty uniform form we're going to re look at it and maybe we tweak a few things so that it doesn't seem so overwhelming um that's all we can you know we can say that we'll you know
We'll look at it and work on it um we've heard you like we get it you know we do we heard you thank you great thank you but we do want to see these events happen I do too I don't want to say no we can't have anything to say please move forward with your events we will we will figure all this
Out but I'm going to stay for a while okay oh I don't know for you're not there other part anybody else have any comments or bill um on the subject of the Morris scholarship okay got now the um you
Remember uh there was a $220,000 CD and no Awards have been made for a while and then you made a couple of awards I believe it's only indicated one to me but made to last year um I don't know how much they were for uh 500 each okay great question question came up because
The CD that you had Jessica set up is coming to September 31st okay September 30th uh that um that's $20,000 and needs to be some decision needs to be made or be roll into a lousy rate um so I had said anticipating you'd
Want to know how much cash was still in on that account and whether you want to take some of the interest from this maturing CD and add it to the Expendable amount so that you could do Awards again this in the spring done mhm so I asked I asked what the balance was in the Expendable account um and the figure I
Got was still like $1,475 which is what it was before Oh so that made me wonder okay um have they not been paid out have the scholarship not paid out they charged the wrong account so that's kind of a second question that I asked Jess and Justine about just haven't heard back yet
But if if they came from the right place I think it and it was a th000 in total then it' be more like $475 that should be in that account so there's a little accounting to catch up on there and to make sure that the checks were paid to the recipients may I ask what this is so it's a scholarship
That we put out we it has sat dormant for a while bill came to us a couple years ago and we finally implemented and sent out to Quin um and Pathfinder right looking for anyone that wanted to apply for the um they had to send essays in
And at one of the or two actually of the meetings we reviewed were you one and then granted another another one came in late and we decided we would grant that one as well because we didn't get a ton of applicants so the ones that we did we we reviewed and um so there should be
Two $500 scholar $500 scholarships that were paid out are you around tomorrow yeah I think so do you want to come in and talk about this oh yeah at least in the phone I will I will and and this part of it is I think going to just turn into simple accounting we just figure
Taken from the right account never ad so but so if they were awarded then then we'll make sure they paid out and then then there's a little less than $500 in there now right and there's about $11,000 of interest in this CD that's going to be available so I would think you might
Want to have that interest added to this Expendable balance 475 whatever build it back 1500 or so so that we can do scholarship Spring right but then roll over the CD the principal yes yes lights on black Tacoma 12 lx45 your
Lights are on oh good I'll be done moment thank you um the the the rolling over the CD there's it's at UniBank it'd be easiest to stay there if they'll give us one of their special rates again that would be good and um I would think that
If you wanted to you could give J some bit of latitude to move into one of the following like an eth mon eight month at a 4.7% annual percentage you or a 14mon at
457 just cuz it's a little easier Still Still comes doe in time you'll have the money for next Springs anyway yeah and if you if if you ask her to uh or have me ask her if you want to roll it over that way and have the interest on the current CD add balance and then
Resolve that accounting thing from last year or from early this year then so I I would take a motion to have Bill Cole work with Jess on rolling over that CD but keeping the th the the Thousand pulling interest pulling the interest
Out to keep next right I I so move I'll second the motion all those favor hi hi Bill's been doing this for us at the Paige library and it's been very good thank you Bill thank you and if you would coordinate with Justine maybe just
So to catch her up make sure we're all good especially with the balances yeah thank you okay any other visitor comments okay well I'm not going about
The townhouse and those papers but you're going to work on it okay because yeah oh the the form yeah we're gonna we will revisit and see what we can do to you know perhaps make it a little bit I don't know friendlier maybe I I don't know what the word is but um it it
Does have to be in place um but we you know we we get it we're we're going to listen and you know you could bring in some points yeah okay of contention then we'd have a place to start yeah yeah so next up is some uh new business appointments we have three Highway
Department appointments and then discussion on uh policies and goals I would move that we appoint Timothy Rohan Timothy Rohan Chris barnacle and Jonathan bashard to the
Highway department as per suggested by the Town Administrator also second the motion all those in favor or any discussion sorry all any discussion what are their roles as far as oh yeah um one's going to be a
Laborer one's going to be Mr Rohan Mr Barnacle are the mower laborer positions and joh Mr bashard is a truck driver TR driver based on his uh their resumes are in your packet just with their addresses and phone numbers blocked off yeah just based on their experience license
Okay thank you any other discussion all in favor I okay uh board policies and goals um Mr Tinker asked for that to be on the agenda yeah okay to
See one is if the board of Selectmen do we have existing policies on anything as far as is and where would they be one and two is like a a policy that I recommend and I have a a draft and we'd
All you know consider it or and add to it is is if a new agenda item comes before the board and and if and there's exceptions to the rule as far as it it shouldn't be up for a vote that night if a new item comes and it would be for discussion
Only for deliberation and and then that way if it comes before the board a second time there would be additional deliberation if needed and a and a possible vote so that way from my point of view I'm just looking at it and I'll try to explain it to you as best I can is the chair is
Working with the Town Administrator might be more privy to certain items that are going on stuff like that what which I would be lacking on certain things not all the time but possibly and so that's why you know I suggest like a new item that way you know we can have
Discussion also it allows it to go out to the public The public's aware of it and if they're interested if it pequs their interest they'll show up to the next meeting and discuss it as well or have questions for it before it actually goes to a vote and you're talking about I mean it could be in front of us
When we come into the meeting already posted on the agenda we talk about it and we put it off to the next meeting for the vote yeah I would that sounds good to me it would be specifically it's what I screwed up on by missing the meeting well I just unless it's an Emer
Right so I'm not opposed to it but there are circumstances where because we only meet every other week that we may we may need to move on you know on something like appointments you know right and and so so I just get nervous about setting a
Policy that is you know in stone per would it's flexible to some degree because we'd have exceptions and some of the exceptions would be you know finan Town bills that have to be paid or stuff like that stuff that's already gone by a committee or gotten approval and we're just kind of approving at that point
It's not like it needs our approval so those those are exceptions and also like appointments for employment like this has gone through in employment you've done an investiga like hiring policy you've done the background checks and you and you've hired the person and we're just okaying the hiring of that
That would be an exception to this it's only like a new new agenda item like if you wanted an example example like say new contract comes before the
Board and and we get it in our packet but let's say it's a 50 page contract how are you going to have time to absorb and really understand that 50 pages within 48 Hours okay you got that and I think a lot of times we do no I I'm just saying that this would be a policy to
Consider and so I figured you know I just suggest it and and you know if it's something you're interested in I'd actually spend the time and write something up and and we you have something or no I have like outline like
A draft sure you want to put something together and then we can review it at the next meeting and okay and you know maybe we can all have input on it and right you could actually send it out as an email to us and yeah I can look at it like a draft because there was a different you know a couple other
Policies you know like um I don't have them here with me per se on phone but just a couple others you know just let's throw some stuff around and and see see yep but and I wasn't sure if the board already does have policies I mean we on we have the selectman handbar Ian
That's you know that's what you know that's you know that's what we follow um I don't know that we have anything specific to hardle no nothing specific to I have the MMA and then right just our bylaws and ordinances and so we don't have to do
Anything formal maybe we just kind of look at it and agree that this is how we yeah go on I it seems like Common Sense yeah just a suggestion so all right at this point you know if you're interested in possibly some more I I'll spend the time on it
Put something we'll look at it at the next Mee yeah perfect okay okay discussion and vote on Healthcare task force so we had talked about this in one of our prior meetings about putting together certain uh select board finance committee planning board and Board of
Health so I went I'm sorry I put a a charge together um and I did reach out to uh planning board finance committee Board of Health and I only heard back from the Board of Health of their nominee for this committee okay I will you want to give it some more time and
See if we can rally some other folks up yeah I'll be with the finance lady chair tomorrow give a hard time and uh does anyone want to um from from this board would you okay is that pH are you okay with with Eric working yeah I'm with
Okay I've been talking with her about I know you have so for a while yep I'm fine with that okay so I'll make a motion that we appoint Eric appoint Eric to the healthc care task force fck it all those discussion any uniform go with it or I
Mean I could make you something if you want scale yeah you get an extra dollar yeah well give you 50 cents out of ours any issues with the charge cuz I just wrote something okay that's fine yep so all in favor I I all right so Eric will represent the board okay uh who for
Yep uh they nominated Dr Neil Halen okay good so we just need planning board and finance committee did you want to vote to approve their nomination oh sure I move that we appoint Neil Halen to
The Health Care task board I'll second the motion any discussion no all in favor all right all right discussion and votee to close the special town meeting
Warrant so um we are drafting the special town meeting warrant I'm meeting with Mr colos tomorrow um to finish finish it and then um we'll be good when do we close it tonight we'll close it tonight but we'll sign it next Monday at the uh open meeting law training okay
Cuz we're going to we're going to schedule a meeting remember we talked about we have to be there yeah y I won't be there just so okay first okay that's okay all right um the two of us can sign it so I mean we'll close it tonight anyway it's just a matter of signing it so that it can get posted okay
Okay okay want to make a motion I move that we uh close the the warrant for the special town meeting I'll second the motion okay any discussion all in favor all right okay uh meeting minute approval
For August 26 2024 and September 9th 2024 I'll make a motion to approve the meeting minutes from August 26 2024 and September 9th from
2024 I'll second it uh any discussion read through yep all right all in favor all right Town Administrator report
So the liutenant landine and myself we met with more Communications regarding the phone system uh week a week ago we had a um issue where all of our phones were down all across police everywhere for about 3 hours more communication showed up to work on our equipment and
Come to find out that it's almost Beyond repair um allegedly it it's at the end of their life it um it was when we purchased it before um so we have been working to get different options for moving forward we will also we are also not 911
Compliant so um do you know what that means I don't uh yes so it means that you can't call 9911 or you you Chief you're here Lieutenant described it to me but you probably do much better done basically what was bought before
For infrastructure doesn't meet the requirements that they were looking for so Kevin and Justine were looking for options um unfortun I think it's going to be $2 so I don't know but the 911 compliant yeah
Can't call 911 on it so I think it's the way how it's channeled how I was told there was an incident so I know some folk CU you got to dial an eight to get out or you got to do a so that you don't know if you have the highway here right so it's not you just can't do 911 right
Well so what happens is when you call 911 you have an emergency they can't pin exactly where you are they just know you're in Hardwick right right this has been a this has been an issue for for some time yeah yeah okay so like if I'm having an emergency ey call I can't talk they won't know where I am I could be
They would they could think I'm my highway could think I'm like so you got to run across to the whistle SC they just know right yeah right or use your cell phone two sticks like a fire right Hy Express oh Lord okay so that I just didn't want anything to shock
You I wanted the board to be aware that that is something so you don't have quotes yet you haven't gotten anything from from anyone yet they needed from us on you know how many phones how many extensions so we're just waiting now for for them to get back to us so my concern is paying for
It we just close the warrant um in order to use free cash that has to be an article yep so when we close the warrant that means we we closed it to the public us as we we can
Add and modify so we may want to add something so that we're covered for the meeting all the for funds been exhausted is there any penni left there you might be able to squeeze uh there's like 57,000 or 56 but 40 has been allocated
To the roof at the building in the the barn yeah it's something it will it will certainly help but it may be more than that yeah that's I just wanted to beware thanks of what we've been doing and
So we met with our financial adviser the town accountant myself the assessor and the treasure collector um they are actually helping us craft the warrant article for the fire truck um that was a good conversation because you know I coming in I got to ask them ask them a lot of questions he's BN with the town
For a long time had a call with cmrp regarding our open projects and grants I I talk to them regularly um cuz we have so many projects that we're working on so there's a little bit of a holdup with the state when it comes to some of our some of our projects so we were we've
Been awarded certain Grant funds but we're waiting for the contract from the state so um like the one for the townhouse M so um so I started meeting with our financial team and the chair of our finance committee on like preliminary budget and financial planning I've actually started something where I meet
With our financial team like the town accountant the treasure collector and the assessor on almost a bi-weekly basis just so we can sit down and kind of all be on the same page and um know what's going on especially with finances and I guess and it definitely prepping for the budget U we already talked about the
Highway department three vacancies we interviewed five candidates um and she got and we hired three so that's really exciting that's excellent wastewater treatment plant um we interviewed one candidate um we're still looking so if anyone knows anybody that wants to come work in the wastewater treatment plant
Please um please pleas contct some have a friend know someone anyone what's the job exactly it's working in the sewer yeah operator for the wastewater treatment plant okay yeah Y and he would also love a
Assistant um chief operator which requires more licenses but willing to kind of like it would be his second guy in command you know maybe take a little bit off of him you know he can actually go on vacation and not be stressed out about it so curious so we're actually we're open to training people so even if
You don't really have all the required licenses we're willing to invest in you as long as you're willing to invest in us so um there'd be some sort of agreement like if you stay two years we pay for your licenses or you have to reimburse the town just so um but we're definitely willing to train the right
Person thank you um I guess you already know based on tonight's meeting but I met with representatives from Hardwick M Greenery um so that is ongoing waiting to hear back from Town Council again I know she was waiting for some stuff for their attorney um so in terms of a timeline um and some other things
So I will follow up with her and we'll see her Monday um so I met with our uh the person who operates our town website with our executive assistant um she does our website and our Facebook page I wanted to meet her face to face because I talk to her all day long but I've never actually met her um so we're
Looking at um some other Town's websites and also kind of seeing what else is out there and again just we want to make it as user friendly as we can and right now I think um we have some work to do when it comes to our uh our website so she's really great really motivated she been
Doing this for doing our website for a long time on has some of the same concerns so it was great um I attended a weekly rural communities Zoom conference with um an Go's office it's like all the rural towns and they have different topics every week like this one was from was
MDR about mosquitoes and Triple E and W virus um myself and selectman Tinker met with the superintendent of quab and their business manager just to introduce ourselves and talk preliminary budget myself and the highway superintendent met with an eagle scout who's going to
Be building a kiosk by the rail trail down here in Gilbertville as part of this Eagle Scout project nice so he's been working with Marty on that um so I now once a month do a weekly radio talk show the wear radio and I talk about Hardwick so just is my second one she
Did great I listened in last Thursday okay labed um so myself in the Treasure collect attended um a capital planning committee meeting um I held a monthly department head meeting uh the town Clark and myself we attended the we Civic and
Business Association oh no not not there yet um I attended the we Civic and Business Association monthly breakfast with Warren Palmer and wear um so it's really good um they do them every month I attended a health meeting with the Board of Health chair um today we attended the ceremony for officer
Armstrong Deputy fire chief Gand and firefighter Gand uh they were honored by the District Attorney's office which was really great yeah that was nice oh so here now I can talk about the town clerk so the Town Clerk and myself we came in fourth place out of 13 teams at the
We Civic and Business Association axe throwing event don't mess with Justin I know but so yeah uh we wanted to represent the town well and I think we did that um important date we're having an open meeting L training for boards and
Committees and employees this coming Monday September 30th from 4:30 to 6:30 at the Eagle Hill School auditorium Town Hall will be closed for those hours so staff can attend the training Senator Durant and representative biram staff's office hours for October are going to be October 16th this month from uh 10:15 to
11:15 that's all I have for now thank you very much okay uh Civic events T to Veterans fundraiser is September 29th with a rain date of October 6th from 9 to 5 you know where or yep I have the
Special event form right here there's a special event for so it's not actually going to be on the town common it's it's on the town common okay and they got all their signatures and they're good to go on our
End perfect um so selectboard round table I do have excuse me Madam chair would you mind just approving the event oh sure yeah I didn't know if we needed to or if that was already done I hope that we approve the veterans fundraiser I'll second me that any
Discussion motion and um okay U well I have a quick question what are the reasing just for look like veterans to like a fundraiser like what are they doing um so they're having um different booths um and they're all the proceeds from the different uh a lot of it's like homemade Goods almost I don't want to
Say like a like a FL Market but just like uh different people getting together and all the money that they're raising or going is going to the veterans this is the first year they're doing it seeing how it goes and then so the farmers market is also on the common from 11 to 2 is everybody aware of that I didn't
Know well they'll just have to share the space I'm sure they can yeah I I don't doubt that so I just will they be using the townhouse rest DRS uh no they will not they have Port parties um it's it's almost like the the
What the I'm looking for what is that the farmers market it's like you come and go and it's such it's going to be such a small group that they don't they don't need for potties or anything just no they don't need the townhouse bathrooms worst case narrow they can run into n or somewhere else down
To all right all those in favor I I okay so F's Round Table did you print out copies um I just printed one for you for the for
From the attorney yeah just one no I I have one I can a second one okay so um after the discussion for the fundraising for the fire truck um I
Actually had concerns that I just wanted to make sure that we were you know just doing our due diligence so I had Justine reach out to KP law to get to get an opinion on this uh the different all the different you know that you brought up the crowd raising
The uh corporate sponsorship and everything like that and um she's I'm sorry I I asked her to print copies out for you guys so that you could um take it t read just to just to get their opinion and although you know nothing's illegal you know it is definitely
Best practice that the board not get specific involved in doing the fundraiser mhm um a group you know a small group could get together and start thinking about these things and move forward on things like that that's not
That's not crazy to to you know gra to think go that um but I just can you know we can you can read through the
So well like my comment wasn't per se this board is actually doing the funding it would be the Firemen's Association doing the funding but we're guiding them and directing them in helping them well that's what I that's what I that's yeah that's what I had said that you know that the association or the friends of
The you know whatever group that the fire department has and uh you know they seem to fundraise for other things that are that are needed for their department and you know do their Grant and do their work and you know do stuff for for that so you know I
Don't want to overwhelm anyone I I'm not saying that these aren't good ideas to you know to think about or you know if a group of people want to get together to put these things together for you know the next fire truck well um well to to think that we're
Going to raise $850,000 well my suggestion wasn't to raise $800,000 yeah that would be great but at the same time we raised $200,000 or 400,000 it's a lot easier going to the voters and saying we only need to up this and approve
450,000 the difference but we've you know we really haven't done anything or even considered well that's not that's not true because every year the the fire department has gone out to try to get grants and they're very competitive grants uh when Ray Walker was chief he
Actually you know the board okayed him to hire a private consultant to write a grant I mean they they have try it's not that it's not that the town hasn't done anything they certainly certainly tried every year they try for the grants and it just they're
Competitive have you contacted the Vickers group I have not but I did send that I have not but I also sent that to the fire department as well but I'm going to look into that yeah I mean that's that's a group that we should hire for the fire department and help help them write their grants they have a
70% win rate but we'd have to pay them to do that for us it would be money well spent yeah yeah yeah we have to come have to see Whately what that means so we can look into that and see what the cost would be so I putting corporate
Sponsorship because it gives us you know an opportunity maybe to speak to Eagle Hill or east pman land trust these organizations that don't necessarily contribute to the town roll taxwise and you know have a conversation maybe I mean safety is a big thing to all of them so just to kick it back back
On to the people oh just saying it's a suggestion yeah we can I mean I just wanted to make sure we were covered legally that we're not you know going above what we should be doing as a board
You know individually we can go and do whatever we want personally I mean you know but well it's it's not illegal no it it no I mean if you read the you know read his I'll read it I'll read for next meeting and
Yep and you know we can we can go from there I mean I don't I don't think some of these things are um and this was just suggestions this was like something to put in front of the board so we'd all have a conversation and say yeah you know these are all different Avenues we don't have to do every step here but
It's it's something where we have a discussion and figure something out and what's the best plan going forward or several or several shotgun approach no I mean we should be doing an and you know being diligent about this is the first truck that we need to replace the second one is right
Behind it right so we need to start you know really thinking about different things and and how we can accomplish those things I don't disagree because it's big money M we you know you can't keep hitting the town we don't have anything about a debt
Exclusion before the town yet that will be at the special time meeting at the special correct in October yeah so hopefully between now and then you know we can next two weeks see what we can do and then um I know he was trying to get the truck to come to be viewed yes are
You still you're working on that we had it viewed once no but so other like towns people can yes we're trying to bring it back for the town's people to come up and look not just you know the porns yeah so they know what they're voting for so they know what they're investing in you know I know we had
Talked about that at the last meeting we want them to see you know the trucks that we have now right and what we're looking to buy okay I spoke to Chief peas today and he said he was actually working on something to the town's people so I haven't read anything or I don't know anything beyond that but just
Conversation he was working on something like to put out to the to the folk we need to do that to get an information because it's not a meeting at least a broadcast like something to put out there yeah I told him get it out on you know the town's website whatever we can you know yeah and also the finance
Committee was actually going to review this as well they have not set a meeting again it's on my list of things to talk about to Mr Kos tomorrow during my meeting them okay and we'll have to go with that CU they won't have a meeting probably before the 7 right we have two three weeks so um we'll get the word out we
Can use we can yeah we can we can try to if we if we need to we have well I mean we we have a meeting before we're meeting Tuesday and then the meeting is Thursday right but I'm just thinking about you know something for the public right uh but we can use
Code red to explain if we can to get it out there too you know come up with a a short paragraph okay I'll talk to Nick okay see what's what then get yeah cuz the sooner the better we're running out of time right
We are it will be here before we know it so I Know Chief ke was working on something I don't know I will get more information from him um as to his plan the more information we can get out there the better the well a the turnout will be to you know yeah so put something in the newsletter but I don't
Know how many people read that anyway I do you do I mean I still get it I do but I don't count well you count but you just can't vote yeah no I can't vote so anybody else for Selman Round
Table yes I don't know if uh when this happened in terms of my last meeting but we did our hazard mitigation plan has been approved by FEMA excellent so that's all done now we have access to Grants that fall under that so now we've
Got the municipal vulnerability preparedness Grant squared away and we've got the hazard mitigation plan Grant squared away and we'll start looking for ways to spend the money excellent because we don't have any money yet we haven't asked for any money
But we're okay to do that so Okay sandy did Yan's work on that she ended up Sandy a lot of spreadsheets I helped but she she was there so yeah that's awesome that's excellent
Good okay Bill I'm good you good I'm good so we can revisit a couple of things at the next meeting and um yeah I think we're I think we're okay we are going to talk about MVP tomorrow or Thursday Thursday with Mark Granado he's the Homeland SEC security guy and I have
To fill in some of these boxes now so that's is there any um in these grants is there any any money for like fire truck or anything like that no no emergency prepared I know if you need this bigger let me know CU I can barely
Read that all right asking no it's a it's climate climate related you know I mean yeah you could stretch it and say yeah we need a fire truck to I don't know yeah oh and we'll ask cuz we'll see this
Guy yep I have to track down where all the two I need to put tabs now I have my paperwork I've got four stickers two on the electronic signs and two on the light towers so oh cuz they had to be labeled right for you got to
Put them on that they're from yeah so I'll be calling you you mentioned that last time we'll go for a drive y I move we adjourn I'll second minut all in favor
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[00:01:07] pach I am a consultant for George Lang [00:01:10] here who is doing the 94 main uh [00:01:13] building of the canabas project at 94 [00:01:15] Main Street and uh we just wanted to we [00:01:19] may need to be on the agenda to have a [00:01:21] longer discussion period but we just [00:01:22] wanted to inform the select board um [00:01:25] that the state has uh required an update [00:01:29] dated post Community agreement and um [00:01:33] the town attorney is working on it and [00:01:36] and George's attorney is working on it [00:01:38] as well um but we've stopped making [00:01:41] progress on it because we're not sure [00:01:44] whether to move forward on the project [00:01:46] um based on uh whether we can actually [00:01:49] get a new contract so some contracts [00:01:52] have have um spread out to many months [00:01:56] and delayed companies and so it's a risk [00:01:59] it's a risk for for George and the money [00:02:01] he's put into it so we're just bringing [00:02:03] that to the board that uh in order for [00:02:06] us to move forward on that project we [00:02:08] should have a discussion on on just [00:02:11] making sure that the poost community [00:02:13] agreement is in line with what the state [00:02:16] uh needs and we realize that they've [00:02:18] been sort of all over the place the C [00:02:20] and it was my understanding that the [00:02:22] attorneys were speaking so that was [00:02:25] where we were at um knowing that at some [00:02:28] point there would be conversation [00:02:31] with uh Justine and you know our [00:02:34] attorney to get that going for sure yeah [00:02:37] the uh George's attorney uh and uh your [00:02:40] town attorney they're working on about [00:02:42] 30 different projects around different [00:02:44] cities so he's very familiar with um [00:02:48] their their approach and that it's KP [00:02:51] law and their stance has been um [00:02:54] essentially to just hold steady with the [00:02:57] host agreements that they have and those [00:03:00] host Agreements are not being um deemed [00:03:03] compliant by the state when when the [00:03:05] state doesn't deem compliant and KP law [00:03:08] says we have a different interpretation [00:03:11] um the businesses that are trying to [00:03:13] open get caught in the mle so what [00:03:16] typically happens is you rely on the on [00:03:18] the attorney we have to we're certainly [00:03:21] not attorneys so I mean we certainly [00:03:24] can't go into an agreement without some [00:03:28] representation [00:03:30] but you can decide whether you want a [00:03:33] bus to move forward in your town or not [00:03:36] so there are compant Community [00:03:37] agreements and we've come this far to [00:03:40] see you not finish your project we've [00:03:42] all been waiting very eagerly for um [00:03:45] things to get going down there sure um [00:03:48] so this is just a scenario where the T [00:03:51] the town attorney who has made decisions [00:03:53] in dozens of other communities um it is [00:03:58] not of the same mind is my opinion you [00:04:03] know she's basing it on a contract which [00:04:05] is based on previous uh the previous law [00:04:09] from pre 2022 do you have any insight as [00:04:12] to I assume it's Nicole cassan so it [00:04:15] isn't uh I that's not her take um when [00:04:18] it comes to hardw she knows we want you [00:04:20] know you know we invested a lot of time [00:04:24] it with this company so that's not what [00:04:25] it is at all I my understanding is that [00:04:27] she requested a couple things and she's [00:04:28] just waiting uh but I haven't haven't [00:04:30] touched SP with her I wasn't I didn't [00:04:32] even know that the two attorneys had [00:04:33] talked yet okay so maybe we follow up [00:04:35] with them and I don't I mean I won't [00:04:37] speak for the board as a whole but like [00:04:40] I said I don't think we've come this far [00:04:42] for us to not see you get going and yeah [00:04:46] and and you know do what you need to do [00:04:48] if it could Dave L and I've seen you [00:04:50] guys before I think we thought we were [00:04:53] on tonight and so there's a not your [00:04:56] issue between there the communications [00:04:58] some place because we thought we were [00:05:01] pretty close that the issue was as uh [00:05:03] Ezra just said that it's it's a [00:05:07] philosophical decision not a legal one [00:05:10] that's what this board is for how about [00:05:12] we tentatively schedule them for our [00:05:14] next meeting and then um so that we have [00:05:18] the time to deal with anything that we [00:05:20] may have to deal with and in the [00:05:22] meantime you know Justine's definitely a [00:05:25] good point of contact to uh keep on the [00:05:28] attorneys we have to do we have to do [00:05:30] the same [00:05:32] yeah thank you thank you for your time [00:05:35] thank [00:05:39] you anyone else hi do um I'd like to [00:05:43] discuss the events form that we have to [00:05:45] fell out now for the hardw Christmas on [00:05:48] the common and probably also for the [00:05:53] Hardwick um so there is a lot of stuff [00:05:56] that needs to be filled out on there and [00:05:59] when I did have a meeting the other day [00:06:00] I was told me I'm looking too much into [00:06:02] this form but if I am then why is there [00:06:05] so many things on there that we have to [00:06:06] do contact police contact the fire [00:06:09] contact building make people who are [00:06:11] going to have tents pay for insurance [00:06:13] now for their tents on the common um not [00:06:17] only that we have to na sign a hold hard [00:06:20] hardness or whatever so if someone gets [00:06:23] hurt if I sign my name to that now I'm [00:06:25] the one that's responsible for all their [00:06:27] bills medical and everything and I [00:06:30] understand it's not part of the Town [00:06:31] either but it is on the town common is [00:06:33] there not any insurance on there for the [00:06:35] town so of course there is so I'm going [00:06:37] to back up a little bit when anything [00:06:40] new comes out it's always met with some [00:06:43] sort of resistance or questions or [00:06:47] confusion or or what and I I get [00:06:51] it just about every town in the [00:06:53] Commonwealth has an events form that [00:06:56] needs to be filled out for events we [00:06:57] should have been doing this for years [00:07:00] years and we weren't we were not [00:07:02] protecting the town to the best that we [00:07:04] could full well knowing that yes it's on [00:07:07] Town property if something happens our [00:07:10] insurance is likely to respond [00:07:12] regardless or have to at least defend to [00:07:16] figure out what's wrong or what went [00:07:20] wrong I understand that you guys are a [00:07:23] bunch of moms been there you know I've [00:07:26] been there Paula yep you just had me [00:07:28] sign a disclosure that holds Christmas [00:07:31] on the common not responsible for things [00:07:35] when filling out the vendor [00:07:37] form up so it's it's always there like [00:07:42] so to say that yet you know don't [00:07:45] overthink it I'm kind of going to say [00:07:47] the same thing we simply want and we [00:07:51] want our departments especially Public [00:07:53] Safety to know what's going on to know [00:07:56] what events are going on and I know you [00:07:58] all have reached out to the police in [00:07:59] the past and made sure you know the [00:08:02] Common's blocked off or there's lights [00:08:05] and stuff like that this just streams [00:08:08] streamlines it so that anyone having an [00:08:11] event is doing the same thing we did [00:08:14] have an event happening that we weren't [00:08:17] fully aware of and it's what kind of you [00:08:20] know prompted us to go ahead and you [00:08:22] know look at this and Justine did a lot [00:08:26] of looking around in the past week to [00:08:29] just discover that literally every town [00:08:32] you know she stopped at like 50 has one [00:08:35] of these forms that towns fill out it's [00:08:37] to protect us that's what we're that's [00:08:40] what we have to do is we have to protect [00:08:43] the town we're certainly not looking to [00:08:45] take away from anything that you guys [00:08:47] are doing for the kids of this community [00:08:50] but if we don't sign that [00:08:52] form it does take away that release then [00:08:55] it does take away from that cuz I'm not [00:08:56] going to sign that form neither is [00:09:00] the tril treats we don't have [00:09:02] representation to do that I we've been [00:09:04] doing this you know ours is a little [00:09:06] different it's not an event it's not a [00:09:07] special event it's part of the town's [00:09:09] trick-or-treating you'd be [00:09:10] trick-or-treating regardless all we did [00:09:12] was help people direct to a place [00:09:14] because we're so far spread out so there [00:09:16] is no committee there is no group it [00:09:17] started with me and another mom that Mom [00:09:19] dropped out and it's the other mom I've [00:09:21] been trying to get off for years but I [00:09:23] can't the reason I'm here is cuz she [00:09:25] couldn't be here the problem is we're [00:09:27] not going to sign it either we don't [00:09:29] have insurance we can't go buy insurance [00:09:31] we don't charge for anything all we do [00:09:33] is help get people here yes you can be [00:09:35] here you need to follow these rules for [00:09:37] the town's benefit we talk to the chief [00:09:40] we let we tell him this is the suggested [00:09:42] date but if there's something better let [00:09:43] us know it's never a discussion an [00:09:45] argument anything it's really just a [00:09:48] helping to bring the trick-or-treating [00:09:49] to one local place for parents and kids [00:09:52] it's already the town's already [00:09:54] trick-or-treating it's not a special [00:09:56] event that we're doing so for us to have [00:09:59] to fill out event forms and sign [00:10:01] liabilities and everything as I said I [00:10:03] am happy on any place that we advertise [00:10:06] it or tell people when it's going to [00:10:08] what the time mostly it's just people [00:10:09] asking what's the time that it is for us [00:10:12] to do that I have no problem saying just [00:10:14] understand that when you come to [00:10:16] trick-or-treating just like any other [00:10:18] town when you're trick-or-treating [00:10:19] you're on your own if you trip up Mrs [00:10:22] Brown's chair stairs you're on your [00:10:25] own I have no problem enforcing that I'm [00:10:28] not going to I'm not signing liability [00:10:31] waves or anything [00:10:33] else it's it's sad because [00:10:36] it'll yes Chief go ahead I hear I hear [00:10:39] both sides um I love the form for [00:10:43] notifications and all the bells and [00:10:45] whistles comes with but I hear their [00:10:47] concerns what if there's something [00:10:48] middle of a row where if she has the [00:10:51] energy to create who's going to be there [00:10:53] what's going to you know kind of what's [00:10:55] going on and present to the town maybe [00:10:56] the town could be the one that signs it [00:10:59] to wor take away the worry but just some [00:11:02] we who's going to set something up and [00:11:04] make sure it's going to be safe for the [00:11:05] kids maybe they can Channel any that way [00:11:07] convey it to Justine to present it to [00:11:10] you guys so everybody feels safe and [00:11:12] maybe try that Ang I certainly don't [00:11:14] want to see things not happen correct a [00:11:17] good thing it wasn't the intention the [00:11:19] energ is good for the kids [00:11:20] it's it's also just not a one-sized fit [00:11:23] all form you know it's not all the [00:11:25] events are different it should just be [00:11:28] one form to explain what is your event [00:11:30] and then at that point it should be [00:11:31] brought whether we need to do anything [00:11:33] else you know based on if you know John [00:11:36] has another event at the winery that's [00:11:38] going to be super huge you know he could [00:11:40] bring it to Justine say this is the form [00:11:43] this is what's going on then Justine can [00:11:44] say okay now I want you to reach out to [00:11:46] this that and this but the Christmas on [00:11:48] the common is just a very simple thing [00:11:50] that we just have the common totally [00:11:53] understood and now you're going to look [00:11:54] at that little girl in colar she's not [00:11:56] going to have anything in fun in town to [00:11:57] do you know what I'm saying that's not [00:11:59] what we're trying to do but it feels [00:12:01] that way by having the scor and that if [00:12:04] not again it's our job to protect the [00:12:06] town I understand it but I also so no [00:12:07] one's trying to take fun away from the [00:12:09] kids but it's also I was told that we [00:12:12] could be also be a subcommittee you guys [00:12:14] don't have to fund anything wouldn't [00:12:16] that be covered underneath everything if [00:12:18] we were a sub committee the so this is [00:12:20] we we're having a [00:12:22] conversation yep and that's one of the [00:12:24] things that I'm asking okay it's also an [00:12:26] issue for the fair see it's war is also [00:12:30] an issue for the hardw work Fair things [00:12:33] like having to notify all the abutters [00:12:36] like the the amount of planning that we [00:12:40] already do the few volunteers that do it [00:12:44] m my life is trash for like 3 months [00:12:48] because of the fair if I then have to [00:12:51] figure out who has to go door too and [00:12:54] tell every a butter on the common that [00:12:56] the fair is happening every the fair [00:12:59] always happens the same weekend every [00:13:02] year and when I took over as secretary I [00:13:05] was actually told that the when uh don [00:13:10] boothman was in charge of the cemetery [00:13:12] commission the fair was granted access [00:13:16] and kind of control over the common [00:13:18] third week in August every weekend so [00:13:22] where does that put the I don't I don't [00:13:24] know anything about relationship to the [00:13:26] for we already we have insurance we you [00:13:30] know we have all of those pieces but [00:13:33] there are other pieces that add an [00:13:35] additional burden onto volunteers that [00:13:37] are already burdened yeah go ahead could [00:13:41] I suggest [00:13:43] that we revisit this [00:13:47] that everybody that [00:13:50] spoke with points and I know that there [00:13:52] are others and I have some myself let's [00:13:56] I'd suggest that we look at what we have [00:13:59] and come back to the next meeting with [00:14:04] bullets maybe suggestions and get and [00:14:07] you have it on the table in front of us [00:14:09] I missed this meeting and that's my [00:14:12] fault but I I wouldn't mind you know [00:14:16] kind of going over it again and trying [00:14:19] to stamp some of the stuff out I'm open [00:14:22] to that I'm fine with that um but you [00:14:25] also made one of the statements and I [00:14:26] just want a clarification is she out the [00:14:29] form it goes to Justine and Justine's [00:14:34] job is to contact the police or the [00:14:36] health department or [00:14:38] no the form says we would have to we [00:14:40] have to go around to all the Departments [00:14:42] go ahead I just want to touch on a few [00:14:44] things I mention um everyone knows about [00:14:46] the Hardwick Fair he posted in the paper [00:14:48] on on you know online and everywhere [00:14:50] that's notifying me about like everybody [00:14:52] knows about the Hardwick fair I just [00:14:53] want to make sure you that's clear um so [00:14:58] um Angie was right that it's it's not a [00:14:59] one- siiz fits-all form so it really [00:15:01] just depends if you read that first page [00:15:03] it talks about every you know different [00:15:05] events if you need a dumpster if you [00:15:07] need um a detail or whatever that's why [00:15:09] that front sheet is there that's why [00:15:11] it's so cumbersome because it talks [00:15:13] about different things that you need so [00:15:15] it really just depends on the type of [00:15:17] event you may not need to notify five [00:15:19] fire just but bring but it was also that [00:15:22] last page you were like you have to go [00:15:24] around to the different boards now I'm a [00:15:26] working mother I have sports I have [00:15:28] everything else I to try to do this [00:15:30] event now with only two volunteers which [00:15:32] is the other one behind me so I don't [00:15:34] really have time to kind of run around [00:15:38] and and if this town doesn't have a lot [00:15:40] of volunteers we wouldn't want to Tire [00:15:42] the ones that we do have that will want [00:15:43] to do stuff for us so I no I appreciate [00:15:46] um the volunteers especially and I told [00:15:48] you I wanted to go to Christmas on the [00:15:49] common I was intending to go I put it on [00:15:51] my calendar I want to go but right now [00:15:53] I'm stand um but we also have to treat [00:15:55] everyone the same and Equitable and you [00:15:58] know that's how other towns get in [00:16:00] trouble is if you know they let this [00:16:01] person do this but then then this person [00:16:03] can't do this CU they have to do this we [00:16:04] have to make sure we're treating [00:16:05] everyone we're treating everyone the [00:16:08] same that isn't what we're saying though [00:16:11] I think that what she's proposing is [00:16:13] exactly what the rest of us have been [00:16:14] saying is we it a better approach seems [00:16:17] to be that you submit a summary of your [00:16:19] event and what that looks like what the [00:16:21] hours are Who's involved in it and then [00:16:24] you get told okay because of this these [00:16:26] are the requirements but that's not what [00:16:28] it is you're asking asking people to [00:16:29] sign a liability uh yes we are but the [00:16:32] second that's not going to happen to a [00:16:33] bunch of volunteers you tell us it's not [00:16:36] that's the bottom line move I think that [00:16:38] we I think that we revisit this at our [00:16:41] next meeting and if could move that [00:16:43] people could mark up what they've got [00:16:47] and find out you know and just to help [00:16:50] the conversation and see maybe we can [00:16:53] change some of maybe we can some [00:16:56] of so what would adding us to a [00:17:00] subcommittee like Parks they put [00:17:05] trick-or-treating say that again Parks [00:17:08] sponsored the trick or [00:17:11] treaty [00:17:14] they they wouldn't have to their they're [00:17:16] covered under our insurance then then [00:17:18] then you'd be covered yeah if you [00:17:20] sponsored it so the park and rock [00:17:23] sponsors the trailer troops and also [00:17:27] the that were [00:17:29] would it not be easier to just have us [00:17:32] ad on as a [00:17:34] subcommittee but you're already if if if [00:17:37] that's a department that's willing to [00:17:39] sponsor the events okay then you're [00:17:42] covered [00:17:44] okay you still like to go over this [00:17:47] still I think for the fair also and like [00:17:50] whoever else is going to throw events [00:17:51] because it does seem like if you're so [00:17:53] the fair is a little bit different [00:17:54] because they do have insurance you do go [00:17:56] through all the building inspector the [00:17:59] so that form probably is okay for them [00:18:03] you know and now that we've clarified [00:18:05] notifying the abutters because it's [00:18:07] advertised endlessly you know then you [00:18:12] but there might [00:18:13] be like us to try to pay for a one-day [00:18:17] insurance policy is going to be a lot of [00:18:19] money no and I don't think it's I don't [00:18:20] think insurance is required for [00:18:22] something but if they get but that's the [00:18:25] problem if we're signing that form we're [00:18:27] held responsible now I so if I sign that [00:18:29] form and I say okay this is it that [00:18:32] person say Eric bhim gets hurt on the [00:18:34] common falls down then he's going to say [00:18:37] we're we're going to rethink this and [00:18:40] that's the problem is we don't have the [00:18:41] but right now if if Parks and Rec [00:18:44] sponsors it you're [00:18:46] covered we want to see these events [00:18:48] happen you know anybody we want to work [00:18:50] with [00:18:51] you we don't [00:18:53] want my [00:18:55] husb our job as officials we have to [00:18:58] protect [00:18:59] to the best understand that we don't [00:19:01] want to have the town get suit either [00:19:03] but we want to have these events that [00:19:04] have been going on forever and have [00:19:06] always been going on and then all of a [00:19:08] sudden now it's like and I feel like [00:19:10] we're getting punished because of one [00:19:11] event so no one there's no there's no [00:19:14] one's getting punished we implemented a [00:19:16] a procedure for events that was [00:19:19] necessary to do and like you know we [00:19:22] can't pick and choose either so it has [00:19:24] to be a pretty uniform form we're going [00:19:28] to re look at it and maybe we tweak a [00:19:30] few things so that it doesn't seem so [00:19:33] overwhelming um that's all we can you [00:19:35] know we can say that we'll you know [00:19:38] we'll look at it and work on it um we've [00:19:40] heard you like we get it you know we do [00:19:44] we heard you thank you great thank [00:19:47] you but we do want to see these events [00:19:49] happen I do too I don't want to say no [00:19:52] we can't have anything to say please [00:19:53] move forward with your [00:19:55] events we will we will figure all this [00:19:57] out but I'm going to stay for a while [00:20:00] okay oh I don't know for you're not [00:20:04] there other part anybody else have any [00:20:08] comments [00:20:10] or bill um on the subject of the Morris [00:20:14] scholarship okay got now the um you [00:20:18] remember uh there was a $220,000 CD and [00:20:22] no Awards have been made for a while and [00:20:23] then you made a couple of awards I [00:20:26] believe it's only indicated one to me [00:20:28] but made to last year um I don't know [00:20:32] how much they were for uh 500 each okay [00:20:35] great question question came up because [00:20:37] the CD that you had Jessica set up is [00:20:41] coming to September 31st okay September [00:20:45] 30th uh that um that's [00:20:48] $20,000 and needs to be some decision [00:20:50] needs to be made or be roll into a lousy [00:20:53] rate um so I had said anticipating you'd [00:20:56] want to know how much cash was still in [00:20:58] on that account and whether you want to [00:21:00] take some of the interest from this [00:21:02] maturing CD and add it to the Expendable [00:21:06] amount so that you could do Awards again [00:21:07] this in the spring done mhm so I asked I [00:21:11] asked what the balance was in the [00:21:13] Expendable account um and the figure I [00:21:17] got was still like [00:21:18] $1,475 which is what it was before Oh so [00:21:23] that made me wonder okay um have they [00:21:25] not been paid out have the scholarship [00:21:27] not paid out they charged the wrong [00:21:29] account so that's kind of a second [00:21:31] question that I asked Jess and Justine [00:21:34] about just haven't heard back yet [00:21:36] but if if they came from the right place [00:21:39] I think it and it was a th000 in total [00:21:41] then it' be more like [00:21:43] $475 that should be in that account so [00:21:46] there's a little accounting to catch up [00:21:47] on there and to make sure that the [00:21:49] checks were paid to the recipients may I [00:21:51] ask what this is so it's a scholarship [00:21:54] that we put out we it has sat dormant [00:21:57] for a while bill came to us a couple [00:22:00] years ago and we finally implemented and [00:22:03] sent out to Quin um and Pathfinder right [00:22:09] looking for anyone that wanted to apply [00:22:11] for the um they had to send essays in [00:22:14] and at one of the or two actually of the [00:22:16] meetings we reviewed were you one and [00:22:20] then granted another another one came in [00:22:23] late and we decided we would grant that [00:22:25] one as well because we didn't get a ton [00:22:27] of applicants so the ones that we did we [00:22:30] we reviewed and um so there should be [00:22:34] two $500 scholar $500 scholarships that [00:22:37] were paid out are you around tomorrow um [00:22:41] yeah I think so do you want to come in [00:22:42] and talk about this oh yeah at least in [00:22:44] the phone I will I will and and this [00:22:46] part of it is I think going to just turn [00:22:49] into simple accounting we just figure [00:22:52] taken from the right account never ad so [00:22:55] but so if they were awarded then then [00:22:57] we'll make sure they paid out and then [00:23:00] then there's a little less than $500 in [00:23:02] there now right and there's about [00:23:05] $11,000 of [00:23:07] interest in this CD that's going to be [00:23:09] available so I would think you might [00:23:12] want [00:23:13] to have that interest added to this [00:23:16] Expendable balance 475 whatever build it [00:23:19] back 1500 or so so that we can do [00:23:23] scholarship Spring right but then roll [00:23:25] over the CD the principal yes yes [00:23:29] lights on black Tacoma 12 lx45 your [00:23:33] lights are on oh good I'll be done [00:23:36] moment thank you um the the the rolling [00:23:42] over the CD there's it's at UniBank it'd [00:23:45] be easiest to stay there if they'll give [00:23:47] us one of their special rates again that [00:23:50] would be good and um I would think that [00:23:53] if you wanted to you could give J some [00:23:58] bit of latitude to move into one of the [00:24:03] following like an eth mon eight month at [00:24:06] a [00:24:07] 4.7% annual percentage you or a 14mon at [00:24:11] 457 just cuz it's a little easier Still [00:24:14] Still comes doe in time you'll have the [00:24:16] money for next Springs anyway yeah um [00:24:19] and if you if if you ask her to uh or [00:24:23] have me ask her if you want to roll it [00:24:26] over that way and have the interest on [00:24:28] the current CD add balance and then [00:24:31] resolve that accounting thing from last [00:24:34] year or from early this year then so I I [00:24:36] would take a motion to have Bill Cole [00:24:40] work with Jess on rolling over that [00:24:44] CD but keeping the th the the Thousand [00:24:48] pulling interest pulling the interest [00:24:50] out to keep next right I I so move I'll [00:24:56] second the motion all those favor hi hi [00:25:00] Bill's been doing this for us at the [00:25:02] Paige library and it's been very good [00:25:04] thank you Bill thank you and if you [00:25:06] would coordinate with Justine maybe just [00:25:08] so to catch her [00:25:10] up make sure we're all good especially [00:25:12] with the balances yeah thank [00:25:17] you okay any other visitor [00:25:22] comments okay well I'm not going about [00:25:26] the townhouse and those papers but [00:25:29] you're going to work on it okay because [00:25:32] yeah oh the the form yeah we're gonna we [00:25:34] will revisit and see what we can do to [00:25:38] um you know perhaps make it a little [00:25:40] bit I don't know friendlier maybe I I [00:25:42] don't know what the word is but um it it [00:25:45] does have to be in place um but we you [00:25:47] know we we get it we're we're going to [00:25:50] listen and you know you could bring in [00:25:53] some points yeah okay of contention then [00:25:56] we'd have a place to start yeah yeah so [00:25:59] uh next up is some uh new business [00:26:01] appointments we have three Highway [00:26:03] Department appointments and then [00:26:06] discussion on uh policies and [00:26:08] goals I would move that we [00:26:11] appoint [00:26:14] Timothy Rohan Timothy Rohan Chris [00:26:18] barnacle and Jonathan bashard to the [00:26:21] highway department as per suggested by [00:26:25] the Town [00:26:27] Administrator also second the motion all [00:26:30] those in favor or any discussion sorry [00:26:32] all any discussion what are their roles [00:26:36] as far as oh yeah um one's going to be a [00:26:39] laborer one's going to be Mr Rohan Mr [00:26:41] Barnacle are the mower laborer positions [00:26:44] and joh Mr bashard is a truck driver TR [00:26:47] driver based on his uh their resumes are [00:26:50] in your packet just with their addresses [00:26:52] and phone numbers blocked off yeah um [00:26:54] just based on their [00:26:56] experience license [00:27:00] okay thank you any other discussion all [00:27:03] in favor [00:27:06] I okay uh board policies and [00:27:13] goals um Mr Tinker asked for that to be [00:27:16] on the agenda yeah okay to [00:27:19] see [00:27:21] um one is if the board of Selectmen do [00:27:25] we have existing policies on anything as [00:27:27] far as is and where would they be one [00:27:31] and two is like a a policy that I [00:27:34] recommend and I have a a draft and we'd [00:27:37] all you know consider it or and add to [00:27:40] it is is if a new agenda item comes [00:27:44] before the [00:27:45] board and and if and there's exceptions [00:27:48] to the rule as far as it it shouldn't be [00:27:51] up for a vote that night if a new item [00:27:54] comes and it would be for discussion [00:27:57] only for [00:27:59] deliberation and and then that way if it [00:28:02] comes before the board a second time [00:28:04] there would be additional deliberation [00:28:05] if needed and a and a possible vote so [00:28:10] that way from my point of view I'm just [00:28:13] looking at it and I'll try to explain it [00:28:14] to you as best I can is the chair is [00:28:17] working with the Town Administrator [00:28:18] might be more privy to certain items [00:28:21] that are going on stuff like that what [00:28:23] which I would be lacking on certain [00:28:26] things not all the time but possibly and [00:28:29] so that's why you know I suggest like a [00:28:32] new item that way you know we can have [00:28:36] discussion also it allows it to go out [00:28:38] to the public The public's aware of it [00:28:40] and if they're interested if it pequs [00:28:43] their interest they'll show up to the [00:28:44] next meeting and discuss it as well or [00:28:47] have questions for it before it actually [00:28:49] goes to a vote and you're talking about [00:28:53] um I mean it could be in front of us [00:28:55] when we come into the meeting already [00:28:57] posted on the agenda we talk about it [00:29:01] and we put it off to the next meeting [00:29:02] for the vote yeah I would that sounds [00:29:06] good to me it would be specifically it's [00:29:09] what I screwed up on by missing the [00:29:11] meeting well I just unless it's an Emer [00:29:14] right so I'm not opposed to it but there [00:29:16] are circumstances [00:29:18] where because we only meet every other [00:29:20] week that we [00:29:22] may we may need to move on you know on [00:29:25] something like appointments you know [00:29:27] right and and [00:29:30] so so I just get nervous about setting a [00:29:34] policy that is you know in stone per [00:29:38] would it's flexible to some degree [00:29:39] because we'd have exceptions and some of [00:29:42] the exceptions would be you know finan [00:29:44] Town bills that have to be paid or stuff [00:29:46] like that stuff that's already gone by a [00:29:48] committee or gotten approval and we're [00:29:50] just kind of approving at that point [00:29:54] it's not like it needs our approval so [00:29:56] those those are exceptions and also like [00:29:59] appointments for employment like this [00:30:01] has gone through in employment you've [00:30:02] done an investiga like hiring policy [00:30:06] you've done the background checks and [00:30:08] you and you've hired the person and [00:30:10] we're just okaying the hiring of that [00:30:12] that would be an exception to this it's [00:30:15] only like a new new agenda [00:30:18] item [00:30:21] like if you wanted an [00:30:24] example example like [00:30:26] um say new contract comes before the [00:30:30] board and and we get it in our packet [00:30:33] but let's say it's a 50 page contract [00:30:36] how are you going to have time to absorb [00:30:38] and really understand that 50 pages [00:30:41] within 48 Hours okay you got that and I [00:30:44] think a lot of times we do no I I'm just [00:30:46] saying that this would be a policy to [00:30:49] consider and so I figured you know I [00:30:54] just suggest it and and you know if it's [00:30:57] something you're interested in I'd [00:30:59] actually spend the time and write [00:31:00] something up and and we you have [00:31:03] something or no I have like outline like [00:31:07] a draft sure you want to put something [00:31:08] together and then we can review it at [00:31:10] the next meeting and okay and you know [00:31:13] maybe we can all have input on it and [00:31:16] right you could actually send it out as [00:31:17] an email to us and yeah I can look at it [00:31:21] like a draft because there was a [00:31:23] different you know a couple other [00:31:24] policies you know like um I don't have [00:31:28] them here with me per se on phone but [00:31:32] just a couple others you know just let's [00:31:33] throw some stuff around and and see um [00:31:36] see yep but and I wasn't sure if the [00:31:38] board already does have policies I mean [00:31:41] we on we have the selectman handbar Ian [00:31:45] that's you know that's [00:31:47] what you know that's you know that's [00:31:49] what we follow um I don't know that we [00:31:51] have anything specific to hardle no [00:31:54] nothing specific to I have the [00:31:56] MMA and then right just our bylaws and [00:32:00] ordinances and so we don't have to do [00:32:03] anything formal maybe we just kind of [00:32:06] look at it and agree that this is how we [00:32:08] yeah go on I it seems like Common [00:32:11] Sense yeah just a suggestion so all [00:32:14] right at this point you [00:32:16] know if you're interested in possibly [00:32:19] some more I I'll spend the time on it [00:32:22] put something we'll look at it at the [00:32:24] next Mee yeah perfect okay okay um [00:32:28] discussion and vote on Healthcare task [00:32:31] force so we had talked about this in one [00:32:34] of our prior meetings about putting [00:32:35] together certain uh select board finance [00:32:38] committee planning board and Board of [00:32:40] Health so I went I'm sorry I put a a [00:32:43] charge together um and I did reach out [00:32:47] to uh planning board finance committee [00:32:49] Board of Health and I only heard back [00:32:51] from the Board of Health of their [00:32:53] nominee for this committee okay I will [00:32:56] you want to give it some more time and [00:32:58] see if we can rally some other folks up [00:33:01] yeah I'll be with the finance lady chair [00:33:04] tomorrow give a hard time and uh does [00:33:06] anyone want to um from from this board [00:33:12] would you okay is that pH are you okay [00:33:15] with with Eric working yeah I'm with [00:33:17] okay I've been talking with her about I [00:33:20] know you have so for a while yep I'm [00:33:22] fine with that okay so I'll make a [00:33:24] motion that we appoint Eric appoint Eric [00:33:27] to [00:33:29] the healthc care task force fck it all [00:33:33] those [00:33:34] discussion any uniform go with it or I [00:33:38] mean I could make you something if you [00:33:39] want scale yeah you get an extra dollar [00:33:42] yeah well give you 50 cents out of ours [00:33:45] any issues with the charge cuz I just [00:33:47] wrote something okay that's fine yep so [00:33:51] all in favor I I all right so Eric will [00:33:54] represent the board okay uh who for [00:33:58] um yep uh they nominated Dr Neil Halen [00:34:01] okay good so we just need planning board [00:34:04] and finance committee did you want to um [00:34:07] vote to approve their nomination oh sure [00:34:10] I move that we appoint Neil Halen to [00:34:17] the Health Care task board I'll second [00:34:20] the motion any [00:34:23] discussion no all in favor all right [00:34:28] all right discussion and votee to close [00:34:30] the special town meeting [00:34:36] warrant so um we are drafting the [00:34:39] special town meeting warrant I'm meeting [00:34:41] with Mr colos tomorrow um to finish [00:34:44] finish it and then um we'll be good when [00:34:48] do we close it tonight we'll close it [00:34:51] tonight but we'll sign it next Monday at [00:34:53] the uh open meeting law training okay [00:34:57] cuz we're going to we're going to [00:34:58] schedule a meeting remember we talked [00:34:59] about we have to be there yeah y I won't [00:35:02] be there just so okay first okay that's [00:35:06] okay all right um the two of us can sign [00:35:08] it so I mean we'll close it tonight [00:35:10] anyway it's just a matter of signing it [00:35:12] so that it can get posted okay [00:35:16] okay okay want to make a motion I move [00:35:20] that we uh close the the warrant for the [00:35:23] special town meeting I'll second the [00:35:25] motion okay any discussion [00:35:28] all in favor all [00:35:31] right okay uh meeting minute approval [00:35:34] for August 26 2024 and September 9th [00:35:45] 2024 I'll make a motion to approve the [00:35:47] meeting minutes from August 26 2024 and [00:35:50] September 9th from [00:35:53] 2024 I'll second [00:35:55] it uh any discussion [00:36:00] read through yep all right all in favor [00:36:03] all [00:36:06] right Town Administrator [00:36:10] report [00:36:11] so the liutenant landine and myself we [00:36:15] met with more Communications regarding [00:36:16] the phone system uh week a week ago we [00:36:20] had a um issue where all of our phones [00:36:22] were down all across police everywhere [00:36:25] uh for about 3 hours more communication [00:36:28] showed up to work on our equipment and [00:36:31] um come to find out that it's almost um [00:36:34] Beyond repair um allegedly it it's at [00:36:38] the end of their life it um it was when [00:36:41] we purchased it before um so we have [00:36:44] been working to get different options [00:36:46] for moving forward we will also we are [00:36:48] also not 911 [00:36:51] compliant so um do you know what that [00:36:54] means I don't uh yes so it means that [00:36:57] you can't call 9911 or you you Chief [00:37:02] you're here Lieutenant described it to [00:37:04] me but you probably do much better [00:37:06] done basically what was bought before [00:37:10] for infrastructure doesn't meet the [00:37:12] requirements that they were looking for [00:37:16] so Kevin and Justine were looking [00:37:19] for options um unfortun I think it's [00:37:22] going to be $2 so I don't know but the [00:37:25] 911 compliant yeah [00:37:28] can't call 911 on it so I think it's the [00:37:32] way how it's channeled how I was told [00:37:34] there was an incident so I know some [00:37:36] folk CU you got to dial an eight to get [00:37:38] out or you got to do a so that you don't [00:37:40] know if you have the highway here right [00:37:43] so it's not you just can't do 911 right [00:37:47] well so what happens is when you call [00:37:49] 911 you have an emergency they can't pin [00:37:51] exactly where you are they just know [00:37:53] you're in Hardwick right right this has [00:37:56] been a this has been an issue for for [00:37:57] some time yeah yeah okay so like if I'm [00:38:00] having an emergency ey call I can't talk [00:38:02] they won't know where I am I could be [00:38:03] they would they could think I'm my [00:38:04] highway could think I'm like so you got [00:38:06] to run across to the whistle SC they [00:38:07] just know right yeah right or use your [00:38:10] cell [00:38:10] phone two sticks like a fire right Hy [00:38:14] Express oh Lord okay so that [00:38:18] um I just didn't want anything to shock [00:38:21] you I wanted the board to be aware that [00:38:22] that is something so you don't have [00:38:23] quotes yet you haven't gotten anything [00:38:25] from from anyone yet they needed from us [00:38:28] on you know how many phones how many [00:38:29] extensions so we're just waiting now for [00:38:31] for them to get back to us so my concern [00:38:34] is paying for [00:38:36] it [00:38:42] um we just close the [00:38:44] warrant um in order to use free cash [00:38:47] that has to be an article yep so when we [00:38:50] close the warrant that means we we [00:38:51] closed it to the public us as we we can [00:38:54] add and modify so we may want to add [00:38:57] something [00:38:58] so that we're covered for the [00:39:02] meeting all the for funds been exhausted [00:39:05] is there any penni left there you might [00:39:06] be able to squeeze uh there's like [00:39:10] 57,000 or 56 but 40 has been allocated [00:39:14] to the roof at the building in the the [00:39:20] barn yeah it's something it will it will [00:39:23] certainly help but it may be more than [00:39:25] that yeah that's I just wanted to beware [00:39:30] thanks of what we've been doing and um [00:39:33] so we met with our financial adviser the [00:39:36] town accountant myself the assessor and [00:39:37] the treasure collector um they are [00:39:40] actually helping us craft the warrant [00:39:42] article for the fire truck um that was a [00:39:47] good conversation because you know I [00:39:49] coming in I got to ask them ask them a [00:39:50] lot of questions he's BN with the town [00:39:52] for a long time [00:39:54] um had a call with cmrp regarding our [00:39:58] open projects and grants I I talk to [00:40:00] them regularly um cuz we have so many [00:40:03] projects that we're working on so um [00:40:06] there's a little bit of a holdup with [00:40:07] the state when it comes to some of our [00:40:09] some of our projects so we were we've [00:40:11] been awarded certain Grant funds but [00:40:13] we're waiting for the contract from the [00:40:14] state so um like the one for the [00:40:16] townhouse M [00:40:19] so um so I started meeting with our [00:40:22] financial team and the chair of our [00:40:23] finance committee on like preliminary [00:40:25] budget and financial planning I've [00:40:27] actually started something where I meet [00:40:29] with our financial team like the town [00:40:30] accountant the treasure collector and um [00:40:33] the assessor on almost a bi-weekly basis [00:40:36] just so we can sit down and kind of all [00:40:37] be on the same page and um know what's [00:40:40] going on especially with finances and I [00:40:42] guess and it definitely prepping for the [00:40:44] budget U we already talked about the [00:40:46] highway department three vacancies we [00:40:48] interviewed five candidates um and she [00:40:51] got and we hired three so that's really [00:40:53] exciting that's excellent wastewater [00:40:55] treatment plant um we interviewed one [00:40:57] candidate um we're still looking so if [00:41:00] anyone knows anybody that wants to come [00:41:02] work in the wastewater treatment plant [00:41:04] please um please pleas contct [00:41:06] some have a friend know someone anyone [00:41:10] what's the job [00:41:12] exactly it's working in the sewer yeah [00:41:15] um operator for the wastewater treatment [00:41:18] plant okay yeah Y and he would also love [00:41:21] a [00:41:23] assistant um chief operator which [00:41:25] requires more licenses but willing to [00:41:28] kind of like it would be his second guy [00:41:30] in command you know maybe take a little [00:41:33] bit off of him you know he can actually [00:41:35] go on vacation and not be stressed out [00:41:36] about it so curious so we're actually [00:41:40] we're open to training people so even if [00:41:42] you don't really have all the required [00:41:44] licenses we're willing to invest in you [00:41:45] as long as you're willing to invest in [00:41:47] us so um there'd be some sort of [00:41:49] agreement like if you stay two years we [00:41:51] pay for your licenses or you have to [00:41:53] reimburse the town just so um but we're [00:41:55] definitely willing to train the right [00:41:59] person thank you um I guess you already [00:42:02] know based on tonight's meeting but I [00:42:03] met with representatives from Hardwick M [00:42:05] Greenery um so that is ongoing um [00:42:07] waiting to hear back from Town Council [00:42:10] um again I know she was waiting for some [00:42:11] stuff for their attorney um so in terms [00:42:15] of a timeline um and some other things [00:42:17] so I will follow up with her and we'll [00:42:19] see her [00:42:21] Monday um so I met with our uh the [00:42:25] person who operates our town website [00:42:27] with our executive assistant um she does [00:42:29] our website and our Facebook page I [00:42:31] wanted to meet her face to face because [00:42:33] I talk to her all day long but I've [00:42:34] never actually met her um so we're [00:42:36] looking at um some other Town's websites [00:42:39] and also kind of seeing what else is out [00:42:41] there and again just we want to make it [00:42:43] as user friendly as we can and right now [00:42:46] I think um we have some work to do when [00:42:48] it comes to our uh our website so she's [00:42:51] really great really motivated she been [00:42:53] doing this for doing our website for a [00:42:55] long time on has some of the same [00:42:57] concerns so it was [00:43:00] great um I attended a weekly rural [00:43:02] communities Zoom conference with um an [00:43:06] Go's office it's like all the rural [00:43:08] towns and they have different topics [00:43:09] every week like this one was from was um [00:43:12] MDR about mosquitoes and Triple E and W [00:43:16] virus um myself and selectman Tinker met [00:43:19] with the superintendent of quab and [00:43:21] their business manager just to introduce [00:43:23] ourselves and talk preliminary budget [00:43:27] um myself and the highway superintendent [00:43:29] met with an eagle scout who's going to [00:43:31] be building a kiosk by the rail trail [00:43:32] down here in Gilbertville as part of [00:43:34] this Eagle Scout project nice so he's [00:43:38] been working with Marty on that um so I [00:43:41] now once a month do a weekly radio talk [00:43:44] show the wear radio and I talk about [00:43:46] Hardwick so just is my second one she [00:43:49] did great I listened in last Thursday [00:43:52] okay [00:43:53] labed um so myself in the Treasure [00:43:56] collect attended um a capital planning [00:43:59] committee [00:44:01] meeting um I held a monthly department [00:44:03] head meeting uh the town Clark and [00:44:05] myself we attended the we Civic and [00:44:07] Business Association oh no not not there [00:44:10] yet um I attended the we Civic and [00:44:12] Business Association monthly breakfast [00:44:14] with Warren Palmer and wear um so it's [00:44:16] really good um they do them every [00:44:20] month I attended a health meeting with [00:44:22] the Board of Health chair um today we [00:44:24] attended the ceremony for officer [00:44:26] Armstrong Deputy fire chief Gand and [00:44:30] firefighter Gand uh they were honored by [00:44:32] the District Attorney's office which was [00:44:34] really great yeah that was nice oh so [00:44:37] here now I can talk about the town clerk [00:44:39] um so the Town Clerk and myself we came [00:44:41] in fourth place out of 13 teams at the [00:44:44] we Civic and Business Association axe [00:44:46] throwing [00:44:48] event don't mess with Justin I [00:44:52] know but so yeah uh we wanted to [00:44:55] represent the town well and I think we [00:44:57] did [00:44:58] that um important date we're having an [00:45:00] open meeting L training for boards and [00:45:02] committees and employees this coming [00:45:04] Monday September 30th from 4:30 to 6:30 [00:45:06] at the Eagle Hill School auditorium Town [00:45:09] Hall will be closed for those hours so [00:45:12] staff can attend the [00:45:14] training Senator Durant and [00:45:16] representative biram staff's office [00:45:18] hours for October are going to be [00:45:19] October 16th this month from uh 10:15 to [00:45:23] 11:15 that's all I have for now thank [00:45:26] you very much okay uh Civic events T to [00:45:32] Veterans fundraiser is September 29th [00:45:35] with a rain date of October 6th from 9 [00:45:37] to [00:45:38] 5 you know where or yep I have the [00:45:42] special event form right [00:45:44] here there's a special event [00:45:47] for so it's not actually going to be on [00:45:49] the town common it's it's on the town [00:45:51] common okay and they got all their [00:45:54] signatures and they're good to go on our [00:46:01] end perfect um so selectboard round [00:46:05] table I do have excuse me Madam chair [00:46:08] would you mind just approving the event [00:46:10] oh sure yeah I didn't know if we needed [00:46:11] to or if that was already done I hope [00:46:14] that we approve the veterans uh [00:46:16] fundraiser I'll second me that any [00:46:19] discussion motion and um okay U well I [00:46:24] have a quick question what are the [00:46:25] reasing just for look like veterans to [00:46:27] like a fundraiser like what are they [00:46:29] doing um so they're having um different [00:46:31] booths um and they're all the proceeds [00:46:34] from the different uh a lot of it's like [00:46:36] homemade Goods almost I don't want to [00:46:39] say like a like a FL Market but just [00:46:41] like uh different people getting [00:46:42] together and all the money that they're [00:46:43] raising or going is going to the [00:46:46] veterans this is the first year they're [00:46:48] doing it seeing how it goes and then um [00:46:50] so the farmers market is also on the [00:46:52] common from 11 to [00:46:54] 2 is everybody aware of that I didn't [00:46:58] know well they'll just have to share the [00:47:02] space I'm sure they can yeah I I don't [00:47:05] doubt that so I [00:47:08] just will they be using the townhouse [00:47:11] rest [00:47:12] DRS uh no they will not they have Port [00:47:15] parties um it's it's almost like the the [00:47:19] uh what the I'm looking for what is that [00:47:22] the farmers market it's like you come [00:47:23] and go and it's such it's going to be [00:47:24] such a small group that they don't they [00:47:26] don't need for potties or [00:47:29] anything [00:47:31] just no they don't need the townhouse [00:47:33] bathrooms worst case narrow they can run [00:47:34] into n or somewhere else down [00:47:37] to all right all those in favor I [00:47:43] I [00:47:46] okay so F's Round Table did you print [00:47:51] out copies um I just printed one for you [00:47:54] for the for [00:47:57] from the attorney yeah just one no I I [00:48:00] have [00:48:01] one I can a second [00:48:07] one [00:48:09] okay so um after the discussion for the [00:48:13] fundraising for the fire truck um I [00:48:16] actually had concerns that I just wanted [00:48:19] to make sure that we were you know just [00:48:22] doing our due diligence so I had Justine [00:48:25] reach out to KP law to get [00:48:27] um to get an opinion on this uh the [00:48:31] different all the different you know [00:48:32] that you brought up the crowd raising [00:48:34] the uh corporate sponsorship and [00:48:37] everything like that and um she's I'm [00:48:39] sorry I I asked her to print copies out [00:48:41] for you guys so that you could um take [00:48:44] it t read just to just to get their [00:48:46] opinion and although you know nothing's [00:48:49] illegal you know it is definitely uh [00:48:52] best practice that the board not get [00:48:56] specific involved in doing the [00:48:58] fundraiser mhm um a group you know a [00:49:02] small group could get together and start [00:49:04] thinking about these things and move [00:49:07] forward on things like that that's not [00:49:10] that's not crazy to to you know gra to [00:49:16] think go that um but I just [00:49:23] um can you know we can you can read [00:49:26] through the [00:49:32] so well like my comment wasn't per se [00:49:35] this board is actually doing the funding [00:49:37] it would be the Firemen's Association [00:49:39] doing the funding but we're guiding them [00:49:41] and directing them in helping them well [00:49:43] that's what I that's what I that's yeah [00:49:46] that's what I had said that you know [00:49:48] that the association or the friends of [00:49:51] the you know whatever group that the [00:49:53] fire department has um [00:49:57] and uh you know they seem to fundraise [00:50:00] for other things that are that are [00:50:02] needed for their department and you know [00:50:04] do their Grant and do their work and you [00:50:07] know do stuff for for that so you know I [00:50:11] don't want to overwhelm anyone I I'm not [00:50:14] saying that these aren't good ideas to [00:50:16] you know to think about or you know if a [00:50:18] group of people want to get together to [00:50:21] put these things together for you know [00:50:24] the next fire truck [00:50:26] well um well to to think that we're [00:50:29] going to raise $850,000 [00:50:33] well my suggestion wasn't to raise [00:50:36] $800,000 yeah that would be great but at [00:50:38] the same time we raised $200,000 or [00:50:41] 400,000 it's a lot easier going to the [00:50:44] voters and saying we only need to up [00:50:46] this and approve [00:50:50] 450,000 the [00:50:52] difference but we've you know we really [00:50:54] haven't done anything or even considered [00:50:57] well that's not that's not true because [00:50:59] every year the the fire department has [00:51:01] gone out to try to get grants and [00:51:04] they're very competitive [00:51:06] grants uh when Ray Walker was chief he [00:51:09] actually you know the board okayed him [00:51:11] to hire a private consultant to write a [00:51:14] grant I mean they they have try it's not [00:51:17] that it's not that the town hasn't done [00:51:19] anything they certainly certainly tried [00:51:22] um every year they try for the grants [00:51:25] and it just they're [00:51:27] competitive have you contacted the [00:51:29] Vickers group I have not but I did send [00:51:31] that I have not but I also sent that um [00:51:34] to the fire department as well but I'm [00:51:36] going to look into that yeah I mean [00:51:38] that's that's a group that we should [00:51:40] hire for the fire department and help [00:51:43] help them write their grants they have a [00:51:45] 70% win [00:51:50] rate but we'd have to pay them to do [00:51:52] that for us it would be money well spent [00:51:55] yeah yeah yeah we have to come have to [00:51:58] see Whately what that means so we can [00:52:00] look into that and see what the cost [00:52:02] would be so I putting corporate [00:52:05] sponsorship because it gives us you know [00:52:07] an opportunity maybe to speak to Eagle [00:52:09] Hill or east pman land trust these [00:52:12] organizations that don't necessarily [00:52:14] contribute to the town roll [00:52:16] taxwise and you know have a conversation [00:52:20] maybe I mean safety is a big thing to [00:52:22] all of them so just to kick it back back [00:52:26] on to the [00:52:27] people [00:52:29] oh just saying it's a [00:52:32] suggestion yeah we can I mean I just [00:52:35] wanted to make sure we were covered [00:52:37] legally that we're not you know going [00:52:41] above what we should be doing as a board [00:52:44] you know individually we can go and do [00:52:47] whatever we want personally I mean you [00:52:49] know but well it's it's not illegal no [00:52:53] it it no I mean if you read the you know [00:52:57] read his I'll read it I'll read for next [00:53:00] meeting and um [00:53:03] yep and you know we can we can go from [00:53:06] there I mean I don't I don't think some [00:53:08] of these things are um and this was just [00:53:11] suggestions this was like something to [00:53:13] put in front of the board so we'd all [00:53:14] have a conversation and say yeah you [00:53:16] know these are all different Avenues we [00:53:17] don't have to do every step here but [00:53:21] it's it's something where we have a [00:53:22] discussion and figure something out and [00:53:24] what's the best plan going forward [00:53:27] or several or several shotgun approach [00:53:30] no I mean we should be doing an and you [00:53:33] know being diligent [00:53:35] about this is the first truck that we [00:53:37] need to replace the second one is right [00:53:40] behind it right so we need to start you [00:53:43] know really thinking about different [00:53:46] things and and how we can accomplish [00:53:48] those things I don't disagree because [00:53:51] it's big money M we you know you can't [00:53:53] keep hitting the town [00:53:56] we don't have anything about a debt [00:53:58] exclusion before the town yet that will [00:54:01] be at the special time meeting at the [00:54:04] special correct in October yeah so [00:54:07] hopefully between now and then you know [00:54:08] we can next two weeks see what we can do [00:54:10] and then um I know he was trying to get [00:54:13] the truck to come to be viewed yes are [00:54:18] you still you're working on that we had [00:54:20] it viewed once no but so other like [00:54:23] towns people can yes we're trying to [00:54:25] bring it back for the town's people to [00:54:28] come up and look not just you know the [00:54:30] porns yeah so they know what they're [00:54:32] voting for so they know what they're [00:54:33] investing in you know I know we had [00:54:35] talked about that at the last meeting we [00:54:37] want them to see you know the trucks [00:54:38] that we have now right and what we're [00:54:40] looking to buy okay I spoke to Chief [00:54:43] peas today and he said he was actually [00:54:45] working on something to the town's [00:54:47] people so I haven't read anything or I [00:54:49] don't know anything beyond that but just [00:54:51] conversation he was working on something [00:54:53] like to put out to the to the folk we [00:54:55] need to do that to get an information [00:54:57] because it's not a meeting at least a [00:55:00] broadcast like something to put out [00:55:02] there yeah I told him get it out on you [00:55:04] know the town's website whatever we can [00:55:08] you know yeah and also the finance [00:55:10] committee was actually going to review [00:55:11] this as [00:55:13] well they have not set a meeting again [00:55:15] it's on my list of things to talk about [00:55:17] to Mr Kos tomorrow during my meeting [00:55:19] them okay and we'll have to go with that [00:55:21] CU they won't have a meeting probably [00:55:23] before the 7 right we have two three [00:55:27] weeks so um we'll get the word out we [00:55:31] can use we can yeah we can we can try to [00:55:34] uh if we if we need [00:55:36] to we have well I mean we we have a [00:55:40] meeting [00:55:42] before we're meeting Tuesday and then [00:55:45] the meeting is Thursday right but I'm [00:55:47] just thinking about you know something [00:55:48] for the public right uh but we can use [00:55:51] code red to explain if we can to get it [00:55:54] out there too you know come up with a a [00:55:56] short paragraph [00:55:59] okay I'll talk to Nick okay see what's [00:56:03] what then get yeah cuz the sooner the [00:56:06] better we're running out of time right [00:56:09] we are it will be here before we know it [00:56:11] so I Know Chief ke was working on [00:56:12] something I don't know I will get more [00:56:14] information from him um as to his plan [00:56:18] the more information we can get out [00:56:20] there the better the well a the turnout [00:56:22] will be to you know yeah so put [00:56:26] something in the newsletter but I don't [00:56:28] know how many people read that [00:56:30] anyway I do you [00:56:34] do I mean I still get it I do but I [00:56:37] don't [00:56:39] count well you count but you just can't [00:56:41] vote yeah no I can't [00:56:43] vote so anybody else for Selman Round [00:56:47] Table yes I don't know if uh when this [00:56:50] happened in terms of my last meeting but [00:56:54] we did our hazard mitigation plan has [00:56:58] been approved by FEMA excellent so [00:57:01] that's all done now we have access to [00:57:04] Grants that fall under that so now we've [00:57:07] got the municipal vulnerability [00:57:10] preparedness Grant squared away and [00:57:12] we've got the hazard mitigation plan [00:57:16] Grant squared away and we'll start [00:57:19] looking for ways to spend the money [00:57:21] excellent because we don't have any [00:57:23] money yet we haven't asked for any money [00:57:25] but we're okay to do that so Okay sandy [00:57:30] did Yan's work on that she ended up [00:57:36] Sandy a lot of spreadsheets I helped but [00:57:40] she she was there so yeah that's awesome [00:57:42] that's excellent [00:57:45] good okay Bill I'm good you good I'm [00:57:48] good so we can revisit a couple of [00:57:50] things at the next meeting and um yeah I [00:57:53] think we're I think we're okay we are [00:57:56] going to talk about MVP tomorrow or [00:57:59] Thursday Thursday with Mark Granado he's [00:58:02] the Homeland SEC security guy and I have [00:58:05] to fill in some of these boxes now so um [00:58:09] that's is there any um in these grants [00:58:12] is there any any money for like fire [00:58:14] truck or anything like that no um [00:58:17] no emergency prepared I know if you need [00:58:21] this bigger let me know CU I can barely [00:58:23] read that all right [00:58:26] asking no it's a it's climate climate [00:58:31] related you know I mean yeah you could [00:58:34] stretch it and say yeah we need a fire [00:58:37] truck to I don't know yeah oh and we'll [00:58:40] ask cuz we'll see this [00:58:43] guy [00:58:45] yep I have to track down where all the [00:58:47] two I need to put tabs now I have my [00:58:51] paperwork I've got four [00:58:53] stickers two on the electronic signs and [00:58:57] two on the light towers so oh cuz they [00:58:59] had to be labeled right for you got to [00:59:02] put them on that they're from yeah so [00:59:05] I'll be calling you you mentioned that [00:59:06] last time we'll go for a [00:59:09] drive [00:59:12] y I move we [00:59:17] adjourn I'll second [00:59:19] minut all in favor