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The Hardwick Select Board convened a special session to discuss and vote on signing the April 24th Special Town Meeting Warrant. The warrant had undergone review and received amendments from Town Council. The Board deliberated on the process for incorporating these amendments, emphasizing the importance of accepting changes individually to maintain document integrity. After discussion, the Board voted unanimously to sign the warrant as amended by Town Council, ensuring its timely posting for the upcoming Special Town Meeting.
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2025. If we could stand for the pledge of [Music] allegiance. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation
Under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Mad recording and um this is not a normal meeting. So, this is the only thing that's on the agenda tonight is discussion and vote to sign on the April 24th special town meeting warrant. And we did get changes
Back from town council. And both the board and the planning board has seen those changes. So, the intention tonight is to vote to approve the warrant the warrant, excuse me, as tweaked by town council.
So, that's our intention is to vote that way. You folks have a meeting at 6:00 tonight or 6:30, sorry. Um, with the intention to do the same thing as long as they're the same, the meeting can go on. Correct. Whatever you vote and sign,
Whatever you vote for is what happens.
They so if they have a a qual or disagreement with it depending upon what that is and what the article reads okay you know but at the end of the day whatever you vote on tonight right is what is what goes to town correct right they can sorry so you can yeah you can
Vote and you can incorporate the changes into the warrant and you can sign it by the 10th it's it's whatever you're voting correct is what will be on the warrant make an amendment on the floor, but what is going to go to the special time is what you're voting on. Correct.
Yeah, that makes sense. Although I don't think you got you didn't get and forward what I said, right? Could I could I read that quick? Cuz I'm I'm thinking this could be divided into things about the warrant itself. And by the way, thank you. Sent to legal was good. They had some good good points particularly
About the warrant. Um and you know, it has to be a twothirds to pass so forth, stuff like that. Um like I said last time we were here my feeling about the content questions like he had a couple that were already looking at and considering
Amending on the floor which had to do with the maximum size maximum acreage and some stuff like that that I think we'll we would be happy handling as anybody could as amendments on the floor. But the warrant, I'm sure you don't want to sign a warrant without the
Changes that we want to put in the warrant part of it, you know. So that what I had said was, you know, I had I just said whatever. Yeah. Again, thanks.
And we've got several we want to take several legal suggestion on several items.
I think it could be done by amendment to the warrant by the select board before signing the warrant to in and number one was to insert in or after the description of each of the six articles the phrase a 2/3 favorable vote is required to amend. You don't need to do that. That's just the law. Yeah. So you
Don't need to do that. Brian points that out during a meeting like what is if I may if I just may interject I always and this is another one of the things where it's like I would never say the vote passes 60 to 40 I would say the vote receives 60 in the firm and 40 in the negative
Because of the fact that my declaration is just that the declaration of the vote the interpretation of it is what matters later so if it if it required a 2/3 and I say it passed 60 to 40 but it really didn't because it needed a 2/3 vote.
That's that's why I always do it that way. And the thing is is I don't we can you can announce it. People can announce it at the meeting, but it never it should never be in the warrant. What the vote quantum should be for something to pass. The warrant is just not the business. I heard you say that before
And along with also the same thing about who's sponsoring him. On the other hand, legal legal was pointing that out. I thought he would say, you know, so that's fine if it was you. So that's not necessary. So, our intention is to vote on the warrant as modified. I'm going to say right as
Modified, amended by town council. That is what you folks need to go forward with during your meeting or change it on the floor during town meeting. Does that make sense? Except that some of his some of his stuff was just suggestions. Are you saying that
Every suggestion that he made you would want to incorporate in the warrant that we then that you that you sign? Well, it's either that or we can't sign it tonight and then it's not happening. So, we sign it based on that or and and again like Justine said,
You can amend it on the floor.
Absolutely. That's what we're we're we're already figuring to just think it's important to remember like this is the select board's warrant.
It's the select boards calling for the special town meeting. Um so it's it's the select board's discretion. It's just how they want to set their boarding.
And where he suggested he said, "Oh, you may not want to you might want to take these in a different order or reumber them so that the battery one, which if passed requires some change in the proposed in the use table, use regulations." But he was like saying, "Well, put it put it put it down put
That after first do the one so that you well the you don't adopt something in the table if you don't have the You can take them in any order. Yeah, you can.
That's correct, too. That's what I think. So, we'll be suggesting then we can leave them as it is, but then when it comes down to one and then take them in whatever order after the other gone by. Correct. That would make perfect sense to me.
Okay. Okay. So, you're you're just with what was printed in his copy coming back, you want to set that as the and where he had something that said, for example, because of the, you know, the 483 bit
About solar regulation that they might have a question about this, you know, about whether the maximum acreage of a solar facility.
We're already talking about that that maybe having looked at some other towns that have that have had that rejected, you know, we want to make it so that they're workable, they're reasonable, right? But when there's a suggestion like that, you know, I mean, that's something that we we figure to do on the floor and it's
Just a suggestion because it doesn't make it correct. So, anything that anything that town council advised to amend, okay, that would be what we're what we'll vote on when it comes to a suggestion or a then you take that up on the floor as the article was already
Written and then take it up on the floor. Okay. And then we'll we will dress that up a little bit formatwise, not contentwise, and put it on the we'll give you what's needed to post, right? It needs to be posted by Thursday. And and yeah, it
Needs to be posted by Thursday. I need the actual warrant with all of the verbiage contained within. Correct. So, I thought we were going to have that here to review. The problem is if we accept all changes, we're taking out all that like it's accepting all changes
Because they've changed, you know, they have stuff in bold, they have stuff crossed out. So, if we go ahead and accept all track changes and stop tracking, then we're messing with it has to be done. We can't just accept it all.
All right. So, you're going to you're going to, Madam Chair, you're going to hate me for this. Um, just a suggestion once you've ironed this all out. Why don't you move to recess or adjourn this meeting until tomorrow? That way we all know. Look, I mean, with all due
Respect, I'm going to be the one posting. I'm going to be the one running the meeting.
I'm going to be the one recording the meeting. And right now, I have nothing.
So, I can't even I can't even make an opinion regarding something like, you know, with the suggestions to say whether or not that would even be proper for someone to do. So, I can do is after this after this meeting, after the planning board meeting at 6:30,
I can I can go in and clean that up and get it over to you. Right. I need to see I need to know how they're what they're I understand but what I'm saying is that whatever they decide to vote on is what the warrant is. So if they have changes after the they can't make changes after
So it's only the amended not any suggestions it's the amended warrant but they council they gave you the the verbiage and the language for each article that needs to be correct.
Okay that's fine. So if it's other things were only things to like kind of think about, you know, I'm not taking as other comments. It's not a normal but this this speaks to the thing that two weeks ago you were sitting there saying why are we why are we doing this now?
Why shouldn't we wait till the to the annual town meeting and now this is now we've got fluid. Now we've got a missing board member and now you're talking about changing some things. This is we're not we're changing it. We're It's amended because town council reviewed it and that's what we wanted them to do. So
You so you could so you could vote to accept as amended by town council.
Correct. Thank you. That's correct.
That's fine. And we we certainly we're going to meet again um to say what amendments, if any, do we think are necessary to raise at the floor of the special town meeting. But we're certainly happy to be able to say even later tonight at our meeting and at the next meeting and have posted, you know,
That this is right. This is coming up and here's the warrant and the warrant's available what the post office. It's the it's the three post offices, the bulletin board and it will be on the website. Yeah. So, it's and that you you have that that came back from um from legal. So, that's just
Printing that up and that' be what?
Well, except that if we go ahead and accept changes, it's also the changes you've made. I can do it once, right? We don't want to mess up what you've made changes to. We haven't made any changes since what went off to legal. Yeah.
Correct. But it's still going to because it's a word document. It would take them It would change it all. Just do one at a time. So, like what you've lined out, what you've it would accept those and you still want to see that in the warrant. And I Yeah. And we also you need to everyone still needs to see that
In the one. Right. So we just don't want she has to do it one at a time rather than just accept it all so we have it in front of us. Okay. That's that's fine.
Right. Um then it's posted and then we'll we'll that'll get up on correct on the website and be at the meeting and we'll have printed copies at the meeting. So what your board has to do is you know accept it the same manner to change you know accept
To except the amended yeah I can't even speak tonight changes from town council and then change it you know amend anything on the floor if if necessary right but we already have that copy so you're not actually talking about changing anything in the warrant that
Came back from town council that whole No, that's all right. So that's what we sent over before. Correct. We saw his comments back so we know what we're going to be signing tonight and we'll we'll get up on our own to plan any amendments but not the change of law.
Perfect. Correct. Okay. As long as everyone understands that it's the only because your meeting's after ours and if we want to, you know. Yeah. Right. So, okay. Madam Chair, are you going to read Mr. Tinker's letter? I'm not and I'm not taking any visitor comments tonight.
You looking for a motion? Yes, please. I move that we sign the warrant for the planning board meeting.
Special town meeting. Special town.
Special town meeting. April 24th.
Correct. As amended by town as amended by town council. Correct. Want me to start again? Yeah. Yes. Thank you. Okay.
I'm sorry. I I move that we uh sign the warrant for the April 24th, 2025 special town meeting amended as amended by town council house 6:30 the no.
It's just the warrant the meeting we've already voted on that was voted on for the suggestion. Right. Correct. And I'll second that. All in favor? I I move we adjourn.
Second. All in favor? I
[00:00:00] 2025. If we could stand for the pledge [00:00:03] of [00:00:05] [Music] [00:00:10] allegiance. I aliance to the flag of the [00:00:13] United States of America and to the [00:00:16] republic for which it stands. One nation [00:00:19] under God, indivisible, with liberty and [00:00:21] justice for all. Mad recording [00:00:26] and um this is not a normal meeting. So, [00:00:29] this is the only thing that's on the [00:00:30] agenda tonight is discussion and vote to [00:00:32] sign on the April 24th special town [00:00:35] meeting warrant. And we did get changes [00:00:38] back from town council. And both the [00:00:41] board and the planning board has seen [00:00:43] those changes. So, the intention tonight [00:00:46] is to vote to approve the warrant the [00:00:49] warrant, excuse me, [00:00:53] as tweaked by town council. [00:00:56] So, that's our intention is to vote that [00:00:59] way. You folks have a meeting at 6:00 [00:01:03] tonight or 6:30, sorry. Um, with the [00:01:07] intention to do the same thing as long [00:01:08] as they're the same, the meeting can go [00:01:12] on. Correct. Whatever you vote and sign, [00:01:15] whatever you vote for is what happens. [00:01:17] they so if they have a a qual or [00:01:21] disagreement with it depending upon what [00:01:23] that is and what the article reads okay [00:01:26] you know but at the end of the day [00:01:27] whatever you vote on tonight right is [00:01:31] what is what goes to town correct right [00:01:34] they can sorry so you can yeah you can [00:01:36] vote and you can incorporate the changes [00:01:39] into the warrant and you can sign it by [00:01:40] the 10th it's it's whatever you're [00:01:43] voting correct is what will be on the [00:01:45] warrant make an amendment on the floor, [00:01:47] but what is going to go to the special [00:01:49] time is what you're voting on. Correct. [00:01:51] Yeah, that makes sense. Although I don't [00:01:54] think you got you didn't get and forward [00:01:56] what I said, right? Could I could I read [00:01:58] that quick? Cuz I'm I'm thinking [00:02:01] this could be divided into things about [00:02:03] the warrant itself. And by the way, [00:02:05] thank you. Sent to legal was good. They [00:02:07] had some good good points particularly [00:02:09] about the warrant. Um and you know, it [00:02:12] has to be a twothirds to pass so forth, [00:02:14] stuff like that. Um like I said last [00:02:17] time we were here [00:02:19] um my feeling about the content [00:02:21] questions [00:02:23] um like he had a couple that were [00:02:24] already looking at and considering [00:02:27] amending on the floor which had to do [00:02:29] with the maximum size maximum acreage [00:02:32] and some stuff like that that I think [00:02:34] we'll we would be happy handling as [00:02:38] anybody could as amendments on the [00:02:40] floor. But the warrant, I'm sure you [00:02:43] don't want to sign a warrant without the [00:02:46] changes that we want to put in the [00:02:48] warrant part of it, you know. So that [00:02:50] what I had said was, you know, I had I [00:02:54] just said whatever. Yeah. Again, thanks. [00:02:56] And we've got several we want to take [00:02:58] several legal suggestion on several [00:03:00] items. [00:03:02] I think it could be done by amendment to [00:03:03] the warrant by the select board before [00:03:05] signing the warrant to in and number one [00:03:08] was to insert in or after the [00:03:10] description of each of the six articles [00:03:12] the phrase a 2/3 favorable vote is [00:03:14] required to amend. You don't need to do [00:03:16] that. That's just the law. Yeah. So you [00:03:19] don't need to do [00:03:20] that. Brian points that out during a [00:03:24] meeting like what is if I may if I just [00:03:26] may interject I always and this is [00:03:29] another one of the things where it's [00:03:30] like I would never say the vote passes [00:03:33] 60 to 40 I would say the vote receives [00:03:36] 60 in the firm and 40 in the negative [00:03:38] because of the fact that my declaration [00:03:40] is just that the declaration of the vote [00:03:42] the interpretation of it is what matters [00:03:44] later so if it if it required a 2/3 and [00:03:47] I say it passed 60 to 40 but it really [00:03:50] didn't because it needed a 2/3 vote. [00:03:53] That's that's why I always do it that [00:03:55] way. And the thing is is I don't we can [00:03:57] you can announce it. People can announce [00:03:58] it at the meeting, but it never it [00:04:00] should never be in the warrant. What the [00:04:02] vote quantum should be for something to [00:04:04] pass. The warrant is just not the [00:04:06] business. I heard you say that before [00:04:07] and along with also the same thing about [00:04:09] who's sponsoring him. On the other hand, [00:04:11] um legal legal was pointing that out. I [00:04:14] thought he would say, you know, so [00:04:16] that's fine if it was you. So that's not [00:04:19] necessary. So, our intention is to vote [00:04:22] on the warrant [00:04:24] as modified. I'm going to say right as [00:04:27] modified, amended by town [00:04:30] council. That is what you folks need to [00:04:33] go forward with during your meeting or [00:04:37] change it on the floor during town [00:04:39] meeting. Does that make sense? Except [00:04:42] that some of his some of his stuff was [00:04:43] just suggestions. Are you saying that [00:04:45] every suggestion that he made you would [00:04:47] want to incorporate in the warrant that [00:04:49] we then that you that you sign? Well, [00:04:52] it's either that or we can't sign it [00:04:54] tonight and then it's not happening. So, [00:04:56] we sign [00:04:57] it based on [00:05:00] that or and and again like Justine said, [00:05:04] you can amend it on the floor. [00:05:06] Absolutely. That's what we're we're [00:05:08] we're already figuring to [00:05:11] just think it's important to remember [00:05:12] like this is the select board's warrant. [00:05:14] Um it's the select boards calling for [00:05:17] the special town meeting. Um so it's [00:05:19] it's the select board's discretion. It's [00:05:22] just how they want to set their [00:05:24] boarding. [00:05:28] and where he suggested he said, "Oh, you [00:05:30] may not want to you might want to take [00:05:32] these in a different order or reumber [00:05:34] them so that the battery one, which if [00:05:37] passed requires some change in the [00:05:40] proposed in the use table, use [00:05:42] regulations." But he was like saying, [00:05:44] "Well, put it put it put it down put [00:05:49] that after first do the one so that you [00:05:53] well the you don't adopt something in [00:05:55] the table if you don't have the You can [00:05:57] take them in any order. Yeah, you can. [00:06:00] That's correct, too. That's what I [00:06:01] think. So, we'll be suggesting then we [00:06:04] can leave them as it is, but then when [00:06:05] it comes down to one and then take them [00:06:07] in whatever order after the other gone [00:06:10] by. Correct. That would make perfect [00:06:12] sense to me. [00:06:16] Um Um Okay. Okay. So, you're you're just [00:06:20] with what was printed in his copy coming [00:06:22] back, you want to set that as the and [00:06:26] where he had something that said, for [00:06:28] example, [00:06:29] um because of the, you know, the 483 bit [00:06:34] about solar regulation that they might [00:06:37] have a question about this, you know, [00:06:39] about whether the maximum acreage of a [00:06:41] solar facility. [00:06:42] uh we're already talking about that that [00:06:44] maybe having looked at some other towns [00:06:46] that have that have had that rejected, [00:06:48] you know, we want to make it so that [00:06:50] they're workable, they're reasonable, [00:06:52] right? But [00:06:53] um when there's a suggestion like that, [00:06:57] you know, I mean, that's something that [00:06:59] we we figure to do on the floor and it's [00:07:01] just a suggestion because it doesn't [00:07:03] make it correct. So, anything that [00:07:05] anything that town council advised to [00:07:08] amend, [00:07:10] okay, that would be what we're what [00:07:12] we'll vote on when it comes to a [00:07:14] suggestion or a then you take that up on [00:07:18] the floor as the article was already [00:07:20] written and then take it up on the [00:07:22] floor. Okay. And then we'll we will um [00:07:26] dress that up a little bit formatwise, [00:07:29] not contentwise, and put it on the we'll [00:07:32] give you what's [00:07:34] needed to post, right? It needs to be [00:07:37] posted by Thursday. And and yeah, it [00:07:39] needs to be posted by Thursday. I need [00:07:41] the actual warrant with all of the [00:07:43] verbiage contained within. Correct. So, [00:07:47] I thought we were going to have that [00:07:49] here to review. The problem is if we [00:07:52] accept all changes, we're taking out all [00:07:54] that like it's accepting all changes [00:07:57] because they've changed, you know, they [00:08:00] have stuff in bold, they have stuff [00:08:02] crossed out. So, if we go ahead and [00:08:04] accept all track changes and stop [00:08:07] tracking, then we're messing with it has [00:08:10] to be done. We can't just accept it all. [00:08:13] All right. So, you're going to you're [00:08:14] going to, Madam Chair, you're going to [00:08:15] hate me for this. Um, just a suggestion [00:08:18] once you've ironed this all out. Why [00:08:20] don't you move to recess or adjourn this [00:08:22] meeting until tomorrow? That way we all [00:08:28] know. Look, I mean, with all due [00:08:31] respect, [00:08:32] I'm going to be the one posting. I'm [00:08:34] going to be the one running the meeting. [00:08:35] I'm going to be the one recording the [00:08:37] meeting. And right now, I have nothing. [00:08:39] So, I can't even I can't even make an [00:08:41] opinion regarding something like, you [00:08:44] know, with the suggestions to say [00:08:45] whether or not that would even be proper [00:08:48] for someone to do. So, I can do is after [00:08:51] this after this meeting, after the [00:08:54] planning board meeting at 6:30, [00:08:57] I can I can go in and clean that up and [00:08:58] get it over to you. Right. I need to see [00:09:00] I need to know how they're what they're [00:09:02] I understand but what I'm saying is that [00:09:03] whatever they decide to vote on is what [00:09:05] the warrant is. So if they have changes [00:09:07] after the they can't make changes after [00:09:10] so it's only the amended [00:09:13] not any suggestions it's the amended [00:09:16] warrant but they council they gave you [00:09:19] the the verbiage and the language for [00:09:21] each article that needs to be correct. [00:09:23] Okay that's fine. So if it's other [00:09:25] things were only things to like kind of [00:09:28] think about, you know, I'm not taking as [00:09:31] other comments. It's not a normal but [00:09:33] this this speaks to the thing that two [00:09:35] weeks ago you were sitting there saying [00:09:38] why are we why are we doing this now? [00:09:40] Why shouldn't we wait till the to the [00:09:42] annual town meeting and now this is now [00:09:45] we've got fluid. Now we've got a missing [00:09:47] board member and now you're talking [00:09:50] about changing some things. This is [00:09:52] we're not we're changing it. We're It's [00:09:54] amended because town council reviewed it [00:09:57] and that's what we wanted them to do. So [00:09:58] you so you could so you could vote to [00:10:01] accept as amended by town council. [00:10:04] Correct. Thank you. That's correct. [00:10:06] That's fine. And we we certainly we're [00:10:09] going to meet again um to say what [00:10:13] amendments, if any, do we think are [00:10:16] necessary to raise at the floor of the [00:10:17] special town meeting. But we're [00:10:18] certainly happy to be able to say even [00:10:21] later tonight at our meeting and at the [00:10:23] next meeting and have posted, you know, [00:10:24] that this is right. This is coming up [00:10:26] and here's the warrant and the warrant's [00:10:28] available what the post [00:10:30] office. It's the it's the three post [00:10:32] offices, the bulletin board and it will [00:10:34] be on the website. Yeah. So, it's and [00:10:36] that you you have that that came back [00:10:39] from um from legal. So, that's just [00:10:42] printing that up and that' be what? [00:10:44] Well, except that if we go ahead and [00:10:45] accept changes, it's also the changes [00:10:49] you've made. I can do it once, right? We [00:10:52] don't want to mess up what you've made [00:10:54] changes to. We haven't made any changes [00:10:56] since what went off to legal. Yeah. [00:10:58] Correct. But it's still going to because [00:11:01] it's a word document. It would take them [00:11:03] It would change it all. Just do one at a [00:11:05] time. So, like what you've lined out, [00:11:06] what you've it would accept those and [00:11:09] you still want to see that in the [00:11:10] warrant. And I Yeah. And we also you [00:11:12] need to everyone still needs to see that [00:11:14] in the one. Right. So we just don't want [00:11:16] she has to do it one at a time rather [00:11:18] than just accept it all so we have it in [00:11:20] front of us. Okay. That's that's fine. [00:11:24] Right. Um then it's posted and then [00:11:27] we'll we'll that'll get up on correct on [00:11:29] the website and be at the meeting and [00:11:31] we'll have printed copies at the [00:11:32] meeting. So what your board has to do is [00:11:36] you know accept it the same [00:11:38] manner to change you know accept [00:11:42] to except the amended yeah I can't even [00:11:46] speak tonight changes from town [00:11:49] council and then change it you know [00:11:52] amend anything on the floor if if [00:11:54] necessary [00:11:55] right but we already have that copy so [00:11:57] you're not actually talking about [00:11:58] changing anything in the warrant that [00:12:01] came back from town council that whole [00:12:02] No, that's all right. So that's what we [00:12:04] sent over before. Correct. We saw his [00:12:06] comments back so we know what we're [00:12:08] going to be signing tonight and we'll [00:12:10] we'll get up on our own to plan any [00:12:13] amendments but not the change of law. [00:12:15] Perfect. Correct. Okay. As long as [00:12:16] everyone understands that it's the only [00:12:19] because your meeting's after ours and if [00:12:22] we want to, you know. Yeah. Right. So, [00:12:25] okay. Madam Chair, are you going to read [00:12:27] Mr. Tinker's letter? I'm not and I'm not [00:12:29] taking any visitor comments tonight. [00:12:33] You looking for a motion? Yes, please. I [00:12:36] move that we sign the warrant for the [00:12:40] planning board meeting. [00:12:43] Special town meeting. Special town. [00:12:46] Special town meeting. April 24th. [00:12:48] Correct. As amended by town as amended [00:12:51] by town council. Correct. Want me to [00:12:53] start again? Yeah. Yes. Thank you. Okay. [00:12:55] I'm sorry. I I move that we uh sign the [00:13:00] warrant for the April 24th, 2025 special [00:13:05] town meeting [00:13:08] amended as amended by town council house [00:13:11] 6:30 the no. [00:13:15] It's just the warrant the meeting we've [00:13:17] already voted on that was voted on for [00:13:19] the suggestion. Right. Correct. And I'll [00:13:22] second that. All in favor? I [00:13:26] I move we adjourn. [00:13:29] Second. All in favor? 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