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Budget, Records, and Project Oversight Discussions

Original title: Hardwick, MA Board of Selectmen Meeting 5/08/23

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Meeting details

Date

May 9, 2023

Duration

1h 45m

Decisions

7 recorded

Action Items

13 assigned

Summary

The Hardwick Board of Selectmen meeting on May 8, 2023, covered a range of municipal topics including the approval of a room rental fee increase and the annual accounting services contract. Significant discussion focused on the town's budget, particularly the Office 365 licensing costs and proposed salary adjustments for the police clerk and youth director. The board also addressed the need for reimbursement for unfunded municipal election mandates, the preservation of historical town records, and the critical requirement for independent oversight of the sewer treatment plant project. Additionally, potential changes to the municipal election date and improvements to the town's email system and public calendar were discussed.

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Review of Town Hall room rental fees, noting various town committees and groups utilize the space.
Discussion regarding the Liftoff quote for Office 365, including the annual cost of $8,500 for 45 licenses and the need to clarify license utilization across departments.
Presentation on unfunded mandates for municipal elections, specifically the costs associated with vote-by-mail for local elections, and the process to request state auditor investigation for reimbursement.
Review of the Scope Services contract for accounting for FY24, with questions raised about ARPA account tracking and the value provided by the three-person team.
Request for a support letter for the CMGRPC EPA Clean Pollution Reduction Grant.
Consideration of ARPA funding for various expenses, including hydrant repairs, highway employee overtime, and a shower project.
Detailed presentation on the need for preserving unbound and deteriorating town records, including birth, death, and marriage records, at a cost of $3,910 for 17 bindings.
Discussion about the Town Hall heating system, its inefficiencies, and the need for a generator for the building.
Comprehensive review of the municipal budget, focusing on police clerk and youth director salaries, and the goal to maintain a balanced budget.
Extensive discussion on the necessity of independent oversight for the sewer treatment plant project to ensure accountability and protect town interests, given past project issues.
Proposal to change the annual municipal election date to a Saturday in May to improve turnout and avoid conflicts with school operations.
Advocacy for migrating town emails to a .gov domain for enhanced security and branding, citing concerns about phishing attempts.
Review of correspondence from KP Law regarding betterment options for the sewer project, including considerations for taxpayers versus users and the need for a clear proposal to voters.
Concerns raised about the town's public calendar not being consistently updated with meeting schedules.
Discussion about the process for hiring a replacement for the outgoing Town Clerk.

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Building up by the town committees the planning for the steering committee the Board of Health is in there because of the problems in their room and the cemetery Commission is the regularly needs their cultural
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Council and recycling meets there in the colder weather so I assume we have to approve this increase
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For forty dollars an hour starting June 1st to give the yoga people time to adjust first I was like about the second one okay more discussion all those in favor
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Do we know the liftoff quote for the office 365. yes so have this from liftoff so that way we can get off of paragus right now they are doing our Office 365 plan with CM Geeks
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They rather have us go with liftoff this is a the annual cost so this has been actually budgeted every year excited stuff expensive it honestly God
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What do we get for that it's the Office 365 so you have Microsoft Word Excel they get they have all that stuff up and running if something goes wrong they come in well it's a licensing so we automatically have that on our on our computer so we can use
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So it's just really a license yeah how much is the
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Come out they're asking for them they are asking for 60. yeah call it 8 500 bucks but it's an annual it's every year yeah that's what they all do they don't want you so you want you we need to put that back into the budget right

[00:00:00] building [00:00:01] up by the town committees the planning [00:00:06] for the steering committee the Board of [00:00:10] Health is in there because of the [00:00:12] problems in their room and the cemetery [00:00:15] Commission [00:00:17] is the regularly needs their cultural [00:00:20] Council [00:00:21] and recycling [00:00:23] meets there in the colder weather [00:00:31] so I assume we have to approve this [00:00:34] increase [00:00:41] for forty dollars an hour starting June [00:00:44] 1st to give the yoga people time to [00:00:46] adjust [00:00:49] first [00:00:50] I was like about the second one okay [00:00:53] more discussion all those in favor [00:01:06] do we know the liftoff quote for the [00:01:09] office 365. yes [00:01:12] so [00:01:14] have this [00:01:15] from liftoff so that way we can get off [00:01:18] of paragus [00:01:19] right now they are [00:01:22] doing our Office 365 plan with CM Geeks [00:01:26] they rather have us go with liftoff [00:01:34] this is a the annual cost [00:01:37] so this has been actually budgeted every [00:01:39] year [00:01:42] excited stuff expensive it honestly God [00:01:45] what do we get for that [00:01:47] it's the Office 365 so you have [00:01:50] Microsoft Word Excel [00:01:54] they get they have all that stuff up and [00:01:56] running if something goes wrong they [00:01:57] come in well it's a licensing so we [00:02:00] automatically have that on our on our [00:02:02] computer so we can use [00:02:06] so it's just really a license yeah [00:02:21] how much is the uh [00:02:24] come out they're asking for [00:02:26] them they are asking for 60. yeah [00:02:32] call it 8 500 bucks but it's an annual [00:02:34] it's every year yeah [00:02:37] that's what they all do they don't want [00:02:38] you so you want you we need to put that [00:02:41] back into the budget right [00:02:43] exactly you're worth 36 000 now with the [00:02:45] budget sorry for it [00:02:49] if you look at another 8 500 on top of [00:02:51] that annually [00:02:53] what's the uh well the number of [00:02:55] licenses that you're looking at [00:02:58] its total of 45 45 yeah 25 10 another [00:03:04] 10. [00:03:06] so is this one yeah it won't have the [00:03:11] same license or is it different license [00:03:12] there's different license levels [00:03:17] not too expensive system [00:03:22] much [00:03:29] you know [00:03:31] but [00:03:32] if I may speak Mr chair I mean it's you [00:03:35] know you think of the people that are in [00:03:36] this building [00:03:37] one two three four five six seven [00:03:40] it's a question of whether the [00:03:42] Departments are utilizing it [00:03:44] have the need to have their own personal [00:03:47] like do we really need 35 licenses yeah [00:03:50] I'm just kind of surprised it was that [00:03:52] many licenses [00:03:56] I think but even still [00:04:00] yeah [00:04:07] is this the email too [00:04:11] yeah that's a good question [00:04:13] well Office 365 is part of that you've [00:04:17] got out like this oh yeah right that's [00:04:19] what I'm sure [00:04:22] I have info on the email I want to talk [00:04:25] to you about when we get to it but it'll [00:04:26] be if I would just be curious to find [00:04:29] out where all those licenses are before [00:04:30] you [00:04:32] know it's a lie yeah [00:04:35] 35 computers [00:04:40] right [00:04:43] G3 plans [00:04:48] well I think we have to just we need to [00:04:50] figure out [00:04:51] maybe get clarifications on [00:04:54] what you're actually paying for so many [00:04:56] yeah I thought we had a longer email to [00:04:59] that [00:05:01] it wasn't great [00:05:04] you know there's Outlook there's Excel [00:05:06] there's work those are your three big [00:05:08] ones now you can start publisher [00:05:10] PowerPoint how many you know not [00:05:13] everybody needs that and somebody needed [00:05:15] to use it I'm sure well so that's so [00:05:16] there's a difference [00:05:18] there's two different levels there's two [00:05:20] levels [00:05:21] and one's ten dollars so I'm guessing [00:05:24] you know that's just the case [00:05:28] I wonder if this is a guesstimate they [00:05:29] took [00:05:31] well I know they talked to CM Geeks [00:05:34] about how many likes how many [00:05:36] yeah [00:05:39] he would know all of them yeah [00:05:43] everything we expected the apartments [00:05:44] would have like three or four you know [00:05:47] your officers and your higher ups and [00:05:49] staff [00:05:52] clarification then we can then we can [00:05:55] finger it into the into the budget for [00:05:57] July one yeah and not yes take any money [00:06:00] this year correct just a month and a [00:06:03] half yes it doesn't make sense it makes [00:06:04] no sense [00:06:06] so we'll investigate to figure it out [00:06:08] yeah yeah I don't know [00:06:10] maybe you guys can somehow make sure you [00:06:13] do you want to copy this you can yeah if [00:06:15] I could get a copy of it I'll just I'll [00:06:16] look at what we're paying and match up [00:06:18] at least so you can keep it with your [00:06:20] records for yeah budget request stuff [00:06:35] talk about unfunded mandates requests [00:06:39] yes that's me so do you have the letter [00:06:42] there the language [00:06:44] is another format because I do oh [00:06:47] perfect [00:06:48] so [00:06:50] this all started back in 1983 when they [00:06:54] made polling hours uniform used to be [00:06:57] able to open as late as 10 o'clock then [00:06:59] they moved it to seven and the the [00:07:02] auditor considered an unpunded mandate [00:07:04] now with the vote by mail and the early [00:07:06] in-person voting [00:07:08] that's the same thing we are getting [00:07:10] reimbursed from the Commonwealth or [00:07:12] those costs however Municipal elections [00:07:15] we're not [00:07:17] so [00:07:18] and met with the chief of staff at the [00:07:21] auditor's office last month [00:07:23] and asked you know what's the status of [00:07:25] reimbursement for for mailing out [00:07:27] ballots and he said well we haven't [00:07:30] gotten a request and so I asked what do [00:07:33] you mean I've got a request he's like [00:07:34] well we need a request to investigate [00:07:36] and to act upon it similar to these so [00:07:40] the Worcester County clerks we all [00:07:42] talked I got some draft language from [00:07:43] Oxford and they said who wants to do it [00:07:45] and I was like all right I'll do it [00:07:47] I'll ask you guys so what in essence [00:07:49] what you're doing is you're asking the [00:07:51] auditor to just look at the Vox Act of [00:07:54] 1992. the towns are required to mail out [00:07:57] ballots to our Municipal elections now [00:07:59] we make we have the option to opt out [00:08:01] but [00:08:03] it can become confusing where if you're [00:08:05] voting you know in primaries and state [00:08:08] elections and then all of a sudden not [00:08:10] in Municipal elections and if let's say [00:08:12] it was a vacancy in Congress [00:08:14] and you had the election the same day as [00:08:15] a municipal then you can't opt out [00:08:17] bottom line is that in my opinion you [00:08:20] know we'll stick with it but we should [00:08:22] get paid [00:08:23] for mailing those ballots out the [00:08:26] returns aren't compensated by the [00:08:28] Commonwealth but mailing them out it may [00:08:30] only be a small amount but what this [00:08:31] allows the auditor to do is to look at [00:08:33] the law and say hey you know what this [00:08:35] is an unfunded mandate all [00:08:37] municipalities will be reimbursed for [00:08:40] mailing their balance they just need one [00:08:42] executive board to start the process and [00:08:44] no one's done it so I said let's see if [00:08:46] arter can do it [00:08:49] yeah [00:08:52] I was like to send this in yeah [00:08:56] I would make a motion that we send the [00:08:59] state auditor [00:09:01] a letter regarding early voting [00:09:02] requirement by mail for reimbursement [00:09:07] any more discussion [00:09:10] all's in favor all right [00:09:17] thank you if you want Rob to sign this [00:09:20] and then we can yeah if you can sign it [00:09:22] on behalf or if all three of you [00:09:25] I gave the language to the Quality [00:09:27] because I didn't have your letterhead so [00:09:29] everyone's ready to be signed you want [00:09:31] to add in a normal [00:09:34] lines that we do them okay [00:09:38] yeah that'd be great probably looked a [00:09:40] little better yeah thank you [00:09:49] so now we need uh Scope Services [00:09:53] contract for 24. [00:09:58] start accounting foreign [00:10:06] [Music] [00:10:14] I did notice a couple times I saw [00:10:17] something about [00:10:19] ask questions [00:10:21] those questions asked about the rfoot [00:10:24] account there was comments [00:10:27] they didn't keep track of that number [00:10:29] is there is there something we're [00:10:33] missing here what is being spent yes [00:10:35] they do keep track of it [00:10:38] um when we asked for I think you have a [00:10:39] spreadsheet but sometimes [00:10:41] or food [00:10:42] things that haven't been paid or voted [00:10:45] on yet [00:10:47] all right so there's no they're they're [00:10:48] covering 100 [00:10:56] thanks actually [00:10:59] all right [00:11:15] yeah [00:11:18] you guys have any questions about the [00:11:20] same amount [00:11:22] is it 85 [00:11:26] yeah [00:11:28] but I thought yeah 85. okay yeah [00:11:34] how many hours do they work a week [00:11:38] say that [00:11:40] they're scheduled for 36 I believe [00:11:43] I believe that all the office hours here [00:11:46] are on call there too and it's not just [00:11:49] necessarily one person we're dealing [00:11:51] with [00:11:52] three there's like three of them [00:11:55] it's really the way you're getting it's [00:11:58] the best bang for your buck [00:12:01] by the time you get that expertise of [00:12:03] having one person in this building [00:12:06] it would cost you all that you still [00:12:08] wouldn't have [00:12:09] what you really need if you want to have [00:12:11] somebody to do everything [00:12:13] they have like a [00:12:15] somebody just deals with like doing the [00:12:17] books but then somebody does more of the [00:12:18] legal stuff [00:12:21] it works out pretty well I think [00:12:26] Diane Sawyer she works yeah [00:12:30] exactly [00:12:31] the last presidential campaign [00:12:39] but yeah Diane Sawyer you know used to [00:12:42] write speeches for next week I thought [00:12:44] it was just a political [00:12:49] so is it something to report it took a [00:12:51] while yes [00:12:55] we got it straight back [00:12:58] well if you guys are all supplemented on [00:13:01] my commotion [00:13:03] Al so move when you go with Markham [00:13:06] find a new contract [00:13:10] I think it's one little contract like 24 [00:13:13] or 85 000. [00:13:17] let's look at that [00:13:20] and more discussion [00:13:24] a favor hi [00:13:41] a support letter for cmrbc [00:13:48] alignment [00:13:50] production Grant [00:13:57] um yeah it's just to write a letter [00:13:59] saying that you guys support this [00:14:06] uh [00:14:08] thank God [00:14:15] foreign [00:14:28] here [00:14:30] yeah [00:14:47] I like them [00:14:50] anyone else [00:14:53] that we write a letter to support for [00:14:56] cmrpc regarding EPA Clinic pollution [00:14:59] reduction of Grants [00:15:03] discussion [00:15:05] Allison Taylor [00:15:10] okay [00:15:13] are for funding [00:15:17] now this is going back to the crew she [00:15:20] didn't have the bills for Jocelyn Road [00:15:42] 14. [00:15:49] 24 hours [00:15:57] was it just Jason we had to pay or do we [00:15:59] have and then we have the highway [00:16:01] employees over time [00:16:30] yeah she just said the total should be [00:16:32] 60 [00:16:35] enough of us there was all the [00:16:37] information [00:16:41] was the bathroom wasn't it [00:16:43] yeah it was that's [00:16:47] 87. that was the shower the shower right [00:16:54] so this is another added on one [00:16:58] now that we approved I thought we bought [00:17:00] the hydrants already [00:17:02] you're just doing Heap a couple weeks [00:17:04] ago [00:17:05] like four hydrants a while back yeah [00:17:10] let's see what did they actually send [00:17:12] one another yeah well they had to get [00:17:14] into the ground there because it was the [00:17:16] the Bell it was another [00:17:20] that was blown out wasn't both [00:17:28] fighter [00:17:32] mailbox but where's the 66 [00:17:36] 400 [00:17:37] everything adds up to that thank you [00:17:46] oh no what's that all the time [00:17:49] one one eight [00:17:52] three [00:17:55] you get closer [00:17:58] one eight six three is that what that [00:18:01] number is yeah [00:18:07] that's what it is okay so it's the [00:18:09] overtime it's garelitis's Bill and it's [00:18:12] the ejp [00:18:16] because we already approved the 8760 for [00:18:18] the shower [00:18:30] again [00:18:31] 66 82 84. [00:18:46] no so if you add this [00:18:48] to ejp in the overtime [00:18:54] somehow [00:18:57] shower thing well I think it was just on [00:18:59] that same [00:19:01] warrant you know you're playing turnover [00:19:05] all right [00:19:06] um [00:19:15] well this is work that's already been [00:19:17] done we kind of have to [00:19:19] um I would make a motion to approve [00:19:21] offer funds and the amount of [00:19:24] 6682.84 cents [00:19:26] for the hydrant repairs [00:19:33] discussion [00:19:35] all right [00:19:42] okay so now we're down to finance [00:19:55] oh [00:19:57] do you have a number on that so I do and [00:20:00] I can forward it on I don't know if she [00:20:01] included in your packets or not [00:20:04] what's that [00:20:06] I forwarded the quote to you [00:20:08] it's [00:20:10] 3910 and this is eight volumes of I'll [00:20:14] be very quick uh eight volumes of birth [00:20:16] records five death records four married [00:20:18] records that are currently Unbound or in [00:20:20] acidic mucinate boards it's total of 17 [00:20:24] bindings [00:20:25] we would do a similar but accessible [00:20:26] post binding with archival materials and [00:20:28] a bit more of a forward overhang to [00:20:30] protect the raw documents [00:20:32] it is understood that putting each [00:20:33] document in an archival protective mylar [00:20:36] envelope would greatly adds the [00:20:37] thickness of each volume and therefore [00:20:38] for space requirements this will not be [00:20:40] done so it's a cloth boards uh screw [00:20:43] post a soft cloth Pine spine excuse me [00:20:46] title found edge with a stamping for [00:20:49] each [00:20:51] um in a nutshell what I have in there [00:20:53] you know I've got that one safe and when [00:20:57] I finally rearranged the room I found [00:20:59] another shelving unit so now I can pull [00:21:01] stuff out and try to get more in there [00:21:03] I've got Unbound loose records that need [00:21:07] to be found and those that are found [00:21:08] during materials and break it down [00:21:10] mylar [00:21:13] I you know I could show you but the [00:21:15] mylar books they're about this thick [00:21:17] okay you put each each one in a thing of [00:21:20] my alarm this is four years [00:21:24] just don't have that much room in the [00:21:27] safe you know the old records a book [00:21:30] like this would contain 50 years worth [00:21:32] of material so with the space with the [00:21:37] limited space that I have with the [00:21:39] fireproofing the other things that I had [00:21:41] put in there was that that there the [00:21:43] section 9 10 11 12. at some point we [00:21:46] have to talk about getting [00:21:49] um [00:21:50] a room that's fireproof to keep [00:21:53] materials if it's not a discussion for [00:21:55] tonight the the this bid [00:21:58] with something for Rockford because I [00:22:00] heard Opera was basically running out [00:22:02] and it was like okay I need to get this [00:22:04] stuff done so it's 17 bindings at 230 [00:22:08] dollars a piece so the total was three [00:22:11] thousand nine hundred and ten dollars [00:22:13] it's what it's with [00:22:15] Green Book Bindery out of Shrewsbury [00:22:18] Nicole McDaniel who was in town she [00:22:20] works there she would actually come out [00:22:22] here assist me with doing it so the [00:22:24] records wouldn't have to go off site I [00:22:26] don't want records going off site [00:22:28] having all of a sudden you know they're [00:22:30] disappearing uh there's a lot of Records [00:22:34] downstairs right beneath us that need [00:22:37] protection that is not fireproof it's [00:22:39] three pieces of metal with a bank door [00:22:41] in front of it so I'm trying to go after [00:22:45] what is I in my opinion the most [00:22:47] critical but at some point we're going [00:22:49] to have to look at [00:22:51] either something in the police room [00:22:53] my office or this downstairs because all [00:22:56] the maps and everything up there that's [00:22:58] that's my custody as well all those the [00:23:00] road layouts and all that so [00:23:03] is it critical uh yes and no but the [00:23:07] longer we put it off the longer you know [00:23:10] something like this could happen again [00:23:11] or whatever so [00:23:13] and we looked into a grant group rehab [00:23:16] facility building [00:23:19] good [00:23:21] I mean it's [00:23:23] it's I mean we have like one more we [00:23:25] have so we we're getting off on a [00:23:27] tangent but we have we have plenty of [00:23:28] room here and it's like you look at the [00:23:30] heating system this heating system has [00:23:32] to literally pipe through every flipping [00:23:35] and it's inefficient and it just doesn't [00:23:38] do its job I'm sure that we could find [00:23:41] ways to [00:23:42] be more cost effective and utilize [00:23:45] utilizing the space that we that we have [00:23:48] and that's what I'm that's what I'm [00:23:50] trying to do is I'm trying to maximize [00:23:52] what I'm responsible for Town's [00:23:55] responsible for when it comes to the [00:23:56] records and ensuring that they're [00:23:58] protected but with what we have right [00:24:00] now it's not you know it's a c [00:24:04] should be a [00:24:07] amp down there too there is a humidifier [00:24:10] that Paula did install just before I [00:24:13] left someone had donated money and it [00:24:16] was you guys ready [00:24:18] um [00:24:19] had installed it so there is something [00:24:22] that is running down there so it's kept [00:24:24] at about 45 percent [00:24:29] new that you can see all the way out [00:24:33] perfect I just knew I didn't want to get [00:24:35] locked in yeah [00:24:44] physical [00:24:47] still going to have a physical [00:24:50] you know you're still going to have a [00:24:51] physical backup I could probably get by [00:24:53] not having you know it's the law so you [00:24:57] know births and deaths have been slowly [00:24:59] digitizing and the idea is that [00:25:01] everything's stored in Dorchester by the [00:25:04] Commonwealth marriages we still have to [00:25:06] send in [00:25:07] but the law still stipulates that paper [00:25:10] poppies at the residence it's it's [00:25:13] maintained here [00:25:15] so you know that's that's the idea I [00:25:17] mean will the state eventually have it [00:25:19] where they're all there maybe [00:25:21] but for now [00:25:23] my job is just to protect like all the [00:25:26] previous Clerks [00:25:27] did the records that we have [00:25:33] so 300910 is what I'm asking for for [00:25:36] this to get those records there are [00:25:39] others that [00:25:41] um [00:25:42] if you saw it [00:25:43] the amount of work that will take is [00:25:45] just because what happened is that back [00:25:48] in the 1800s each doctor in town [00:25:52] gave a buck slip you know births [00:25:55] February of 1892 when they might be one [00:25:58] there might be two and then there was a [00:26:01] record of birth [00:26:02] and so if you had five doctors reporting [00:26:05] on it and you had it's just it's not as [00:26:08] nice and neat as the the little eight [00:26:10] and a half by six that you have now so [00:26:12] putting those together is still [00:26:14] something that needs to be done because [00:26:15] they're all loose leaf they're in it [00:26:16] they're in a cabin it's a fireproof [00:26:19] cabinet [00:26:20] um not a huge priority it's lasted this [00:26:23] long but again something that you'll [00:26:24] need attention at some point at least [00:26:25] being in a fireproof room so that was [00:26:29] what I had sent to you guys it was [00:26:31] chapter 66 sections 9 11 and 12 talking [00:26:35] about the responsibility [00:26:38] um [00:26:43] for you to read at your convenience [00:27:06] electricity is 40 cents [00:27:11] speaking of that just to go off on [00:27:14] another tangent if my name [00:27:17] uh we could use a generator for this [00:27:19] building [00:27:21] I don't believe it's covered we have two [00:27:24] two buildings in town that are [00:27:26] independent if the power goes out once [00:27:29] the school and once the firehouse this [00:27:32] place [00:27:34] didn't want to see the pipes Grease [00:27:41] Department this fabulous arpa money I [00:27:45] don't know what that would cost but it [00:27:47] would be [00:27:48] thousand dollars something [00:27:50] at this point you could run that boiler [00:27:52] on a portable generator [00:27:54] yeah [00:27:55] so that's all we need you think probably [00:27:59] doesn't take it probably doesn't take a [00:28:00] 15-in circuit [00:28:02] yeah [00:28:04] it's only going to run the burner that's [00:28:06] what the police department used to do [00:28:08] when they were here they would just [00:28:10] celebrate but they're not here so you [00:28:14] know for lights and it just shuts down [00:28:16] business [00:28:24] never got done [00:28:26] and if my name is the chair talk about [00:28:28] when we're going to shut the heat off [00:28:29] because I still have to go down every [00:28:31] Monday to flush that thing you know [00:28:33] because I'm like getting Groundhog Day [00:28:36] because everything's back together [00:28:38] and I'm worried that it's going to [00:28:39] happen it's going to happen again I told [00:28:42] Nicole that I would just probably not [00:28:43] this [00:28:46] realize a plan about a second here [00:28:50] you'll get something were to occur well [00:28:52] I just now that we're in the months [00:28:54] where it's not even going to be kidding [00:28:56] on I just want to know so that I don't [00:29:03] yeah well I want permission from you [00:29:05] guys because some people get some people [00:29:07] get cold and they go and we can we get a [00:29:10] little electric readers it doesn't start [00:29:13] out because it shut up [00:29:22] you know but I don't work here I mean it [00:29:25] was 90 degrees out my office today [00:29:33] and I had explained you know again you [00:29:37] look at all the pipes well you've got [00:29:39] those those valves there now it runs [00:29:41] through my office I have them all off [00:29:44] and if they Crank It Up to 72 or 74 my [00:29:47] office is 76.77 all they have to do is [00:29:51] just leave the dial alone and adjust [00:29:54] these knives and they and that happened [00:29:57] and it didn't work so hopefully that [00:30:00] takes care of that because it's really [00:30:02] what it boils down to I mean they all [00:30:03] face south and east I face East but I [00:30:06] got no [00:30:07] idea no that was the air compressor [00:30:12] that was that because I thought the same [00:30:15] thing [00:30:17] but yeah I just wanted to find out you [00:30:19] know when it's okay to shut the heat off [00:30:20] so we don't have to keep doing that I [00:30:22] would say if everybody's at least [00:30:24] comfortable I mean there's always [00:30:26] someone's going to be cold but we can [00:30:27] get a little get a little space heater [00:30:29] they just turn on just there's somebody [00:30:31] else that's all [00:30:33] maybe if there's some sort of maybe if [00:30:36] there's some sort of directive from the [00:30:38] board that's in charge of the building [00:30:39] May 15th for the outdoor for instances [00:30:44] okay [00:30:46] that's [00:30:47] well not only finish this first yeah [00:30:57] right right and that's if we do [00:31:01] right [00:31:11] well not anymore [00:31:32] so this will be another three [00:31:34] years [00:31:42] but I mean let's face it [00:31:48] after this [00:31:51] it's like well if we I mean it's got to [00:31:54] get done at some point [00:31:58] yeah yeah I agree [00:32:01] well I would uh move that we [00:32:05] uh Tom clerk was asking for [00:32:08] six eighty two eighty four no no [00:32:12] 39 10. [00:32:19] for preserving records preserving the [00:32:21] records I'll second that [00:32:25] special [00:32:27] thank you [00:32:32] oh just [00:32:33] [Applause] [00:32:34] um probably just do the heat thing real [00:32:36] quick [00:32:39] if you guys are okay with it [00:32:42] says [00:32:43] [Music] [00:32:55] it's an issue we can deal with a basis [00:32:58] issue but great theater or something [00:33:01] yeah I'm fine with it [00:33:06] um [00:33:19] sweater slippers whatever [00:33:22] Uggs I don't care [00:33:26] all right let's uh let's go up in the [00:33:30] budget now [00:33:31] yeah [00:33:35] you want to sit back there and go over [00:33:37] the budget [00:33:44] like the prices right The Price is Right [00:33:57] that's probably yeah absolutely [00:34:35] directions [00:34:44] that we changed much from the last time [00:34:49] no [00:34:52] um Paul and I've been going back and [00:34:53] forth [00:34:57] fine-tuning some adjustments the one [00:35:00] thing that we did change today [00:35:04] her assistant [00:35:06] classified as a [00:35:08] 15th floor awake and she said we [00:35:11] shouldn't use [00:35:20] it is listed that way [00:35:23] and I think her and Jen were supposed to [00:35:26] go over on that [00:35:28] I thought he just was a mess [00:35:30] I wonder if we shouldn't have one anyhow [00:35:32] because there were some issues [00:35:41] the other issue we had was it was two [00:35:46] so the police clerk they were they were [00:35:48] looking to bring her [00:35:51] rate from 6 000 to 24 [00:35:54] 000. we [00:35:57] um [00:35:58] we agree on the rate increase [00:36:11] so to [00:36:13] 1149 so what's the rate that you used to [00:36:17] do [00:36:19] uh [00:36:36] it's a 2144 [00:36:44] do you know why [00:36:45] why why their request was twenty [00:36:48] thousand was it more hours was it [00:36:50] oh we got a letter from the police just [00:36:52] because they had they had come before [00:36:54] the Personnel committee to ask for her [00:36:56] right to be interest because of her [00:36:57] longevity yeah and we improved that the [00:37:00] rate [00:37:03] um I my concern is this poor girl is [00:37:06] going to walk [00:37:08] I was up to the 30th [00:37:10] if she [00:37:12] I don't know if they were looking to [00:37:15] increase her hours as well [00:37:19] because between the two departments she [00:37:21] works full-time between Highway and [00:37:23] police [00:37:24] she's a benefited employee anyway [00:37:27] um I I just but they increased their [00:37:29] hours would they have to go to the [00:37:31] Personnel boards that's what I can't [00:37:32] remember so that's why that's we need [00:37:35] some clarification on that I think if [00:37:36] it's if it's an hours increase [00:37:42] also [00:37:54] so it's yeah it's a rate has increased I [00:37:57] just [00:38:00] definitely [00:38:02] it will be [00:38:04] really bad for highways basically [00:38:12] all right well we don't have any other [00:38:13] information so let's [00:38:16] that's something they want to [00:38:19] come back with [00:38:21] some more detailed around that then yeah [00:38:26] again we're trying to this year we [00:38:28] really need to [00:38:29] hold the line on [00:38:32] especially [00:38:33] payroll [00:38:35] um everyone's got raises this year we [00:38:37] put all those races back [00:38:39] to pull on that [00:38:40] all the contracts are in [00:38:43] but every time we increase labor that [00:38:47] compounds for next year's budgets a [00:38:50] future Year's budget so I'm going to get [00:38:52] a handle on that [00:38:57] and if if police needs to increase the [00:39:00] salary then we would expect them to come [00:39:03] back with a reduction somewhere else to [00:39:05] pay for [00:39:08] they just signed science [00:39:14] for the police yes [00:39:21] they were just below [00:39:32] I think the other one is administrator [00:39:35] and [00:39:37] uh fire tree Highway [00:39:40] and the sewer superintendent they're all [00:39:42] confidence [00:39:46] the other [00:39:48] area that we [00:39:50] that we've talked about was the [00:39:54] youth director [00:39:56] so it was a lot of discussion [00:40:00] uh for hours [00:40:01] bi-weekly [00:40:05] so we we increased her [00:40:09] rate to 2432 which was in the [00:40:11] classification plan [00:40:13] increase the hours of 10 hours per week [00:40:17] which basically doubles what she was [00:40:20] getting [00:40:22] failures [00:40:25] for this year [00:40:28] how many hours a week we head down 10 [00:40:31] hours they reached back into the [00:40:34] hours that were [00:40:38] and that's the most [00:40:41] um [00:40:44] those are really the big items that were [00:40:48] they have wanted like 24 000 [00:40:51] brain yeah [00:40:57] so with our recommendation we can get a [00:40:59] balanced budget [00:41:01] between stabilization we can find [00:41:03] Capital well [00:41:05] what's the [00:41:07] what's the bottom line [00:41:11] the budget [00:41:12] over under I don't see it on here [00:41:18] balance sheet [00:41:20] we're currently balance [00:41:25] it's like we're not over we're not under [00:41:26] there's nothing zero [00:41:30] that's awfully Brave [00:41:41] my day [00:41:49] corporate tonight [00:42:00] Mr chair if I may the only cautionary [00:42:03] thing that I would just reference would [00:42:05] be to just touch base with Jennifer [00:42:07] because sometimes the estimates on the [00:42:10] receipts and the other things she some [00:42:12] does sometimes have a little bit of a [00:42:14] buffer she has I had I had that [00:42:16] conversation sorry he was very concerned [00:42:19] about most of them okay [00:42:28] non-payment of taxes [00:42:43] thank you [00:42:45] we're gonna get the score coming back [00:42:59] was that a five percent [00:43:02] yeah [00:43:06] and that's the second number yeah that's [00:43:09] what they came back with [00:43:16] foreign [00:44:23] you know I just worry about something [00:44:24] being changed on the floor too [00:44:26] there's no room [00:44:30] it's always a possibility happens [00:44:34] what happened last year [00:45:03] sure [00:45:18] I could ask her how they assess it so [00:45:21] she's going to look at that side yes [00:45:24] number [00:45:28] it says it because it keeps going up [00:45:30] every year [00:45:31] at the time they actually [00:45:36] buy a payroll you know [00:45:42] um [00:45:46] is that [00:45:49] the 1.8 that means to be refinanced [00:45:52] I'm not sure how that's happening yet [00:45:54] and the interest on that could be [00:45:56] substantial [00:46:00] because Nicole mentioned anything not a [00:46:02] word [00:46:03] we've talked about it in this last [00:46:05] meeting [00:46:06] okay [00:46:08] I don't know [00:46:14] it's like [00:46:17] as soon as it Finance who's it financed [00:46:19] with [00:46:21] it's not a USDA loan no oh it's probably [00:46:24] thrilled but we don't know if they're [00:46:27] gonna if they're gonna take it out if [00:46:29] they're gonna [00:46:30] write that's I think might be who it is [00:46:33] yeah [00:46:35] but it comes I think due in October so [00:46:39] we have to budget for that [00:46:41] it's the interest payment or is it yes [00:46:43] the interest payment we have to [00:46:46] that's my understanding so we would need [00:46:48] to know that correct [00:46:53] and it was big that's why I'm like yeah [00:46:57] and I don't know if it's part of this I [00:46:58] don't know if some of this is in here [00:47:01] um [00:47:10] so we just want to make sure that we're [00:47:11] covering it oh yeah for sure that's too [00:47:14] big yeah it's a big willing thing [00:47:17] with the Sun [00:47:21] but I don't think that's that the one [00:47:23] correct that's [00:47:33] I want to make sure to do the rewrite [00:47:36] the interest rate so that's why [00:47:39] yeah I don't know [00:47:48] how much [00:47:51] and I feel like it's a I again I don't I [00:47:54] don't have the particulars yeah [00:48:11] 20 years [00:48:13] 40 yeah 40 year yeah [00:48:31] it's a paid upon it last year [00:48:33] should be in the budget [00:48:36] we just pulled it up we just rolled it [00:48:38] over into another band last year or [00:48:40] something so it wasn't substantial like [00:48:43] this year it's coming [00:48:45] where like it easily needs to be paid [00:48:47] off or needs to be completely [00:48:50] herself [00:48:53] that's nice [00:48:56] maybe it's a 2500 [00:49:00] there's some something is coming in I'll [00:49:03] talk about this okay I just want to make [00:49:05] sure we're covered for [00:49:07] can you write a note [00:49:11] get back to us on that just so we know [00:49:14] we have it in the budget [00:49:17] otherwise we need to know that number so [00:49:19] we can back out of this a little bit [00:49:24] foreign [00:50:05] members [00:50:15] for some reason I don't think we did to [00:50:16] the budget [00:50:18] we waited on it so it's interesting yeah [00:50:23] yeah I just it's sticking in my mind and [00:50:25] I just don't want it to be something [00:50:26] that we're missing [00:50:28] we have the summer budget [00:50:32] have you guys seen the silver button no [00:50:34] no [00:50:40] can you email [00:50:44] because they [00:50:50] for [00:50:51] eign [00:51:10] well last year we [00:51:12] last year the year before [00:51:20] I think was running [00:51:24] through some of the other stuff was [00:51:25] running through [00:51:27] that and I think it was all there now I [00:51:29] think it's all there now yeah we tried [00:51:31] to consolidate so that makes sense [00:51:32] that's probably where it is [00:51:35] it's like 60 000 [00:51:37] . [00:51:39] okay that makes me [00:51:42] okay so just just verify it [00:51:45] at least yeah [00:51:47] I mean honestly [00:51:52] so [00:51:55] if we have to come up with another 8 500 [00:51:58] for it [00:52:04] so we're putting in we're putting money [00:52:06] into stabilization and capital [00:52:07] stabilization with this by [00:52:10] this bike that was the idea of [00:52:12] tax yeah no and that's a good idea yeah [00:52:19] right here [00:52:20] going in yeah [00:52:24] we've got room to work with that [00:52:28] and we still don't know [00:52:30] about over like just departments being [00:52:32] over under yet so that will not have to [00:52:34] be cleaned up in June yeah when we get [00:52:36] closer to the meeting date a lot of [00:52:39] times you know [00:52:41] we can work it out the accountant goes [00:52:43] through and you know if [00:52:45] um highway is over a little bit but you [00:52:48] know police is under then it becomes a [00:52:50] wash or within their departments it [00:52:52] wasn't a bad eating yeah so no we should [00:52:55] have some yeah [00:53:20] I'm not really sure [00:53:23] the reason for the heavier number in [00:53:26] reserve [00:53:28] no we're running really [00:53:42] really we could actually pull that 85 [00:53:47] get our race and can we even get paid [00:54:00] do your paperwork [00:54:04] my donation [00:54:18] so this big room for you [00:54:22] don't spend it all in one place [00:54:31] on the [00:54:34] um [00:54:41] 85 for the it even though it sounds [00:54:43] awfully hot well once we get [00:54:45] clarification but at least [00:54:47] have the numbers [00:54:51] for some reason it needs to be you know [00:54:53] if it's legit and everything is yeah no [00:54:56] that's fine that's fine [00:55:04] classifications on it right one was [00:55:07] there were 25 for one of them and ten [00:55:09] for nothing for the other which is [00:55:13] unless like you know Ryan said some [00:55:15] things you know it's everything and then [00:55:17] maybe some people only maybe maybe this [00:55:19] is utilize you know a spell or whatever [00:55:21] I don't know [00:55:25] with all our bells and whistles and I [00:55:28] think that was the lesser of the two [00:55:32] yeah there's this already part of the 36 [00:55:35] 000. I don't think so [00:55:42] I don't know do we have a budget [00:55:44] breakdown [00:55:48] there is one [00:55:52] it's there whatever their fee is yeah I [00:55:54] think it's a monthly thing but yeah [00:55:56] Geeks is Monday yeah something much [00:55:59] different [00:56:09] are we reasonably comfortable with most [00:56:11] of us [00:56:13] yeah I mean like I said we kind of got [00:56:15] the slate in the afternoon right it's [00:56:18] not so different from last [00:56:20] week yeah so [00:56:22] right I would agree what's the biggest [00:56:24] difference [00:56:25] just [00:56:28] um [00:56:29] like the assessment we took that [00:56:32] they wanted to give her a ten thousand [00:56:34] dollars [00:56:39] suppose that just yeah and I get it I do [00:56:43] but when Jen's gone we're never going to [00:56:45] hire someone for [00:56:49] sure [00:56:52] I don't know but it's gonna it's gonna [00:56:54] boil down so probably having to contract [00:56:56] somebody else yeah [00:56:58] it's going to take years to learn the [00:57:00] job exactly [00:57:02] I think that was the biggest one that [00:57:05] was almost [00:57:11] and then [00:57:13] of course we swear so we just need some [00:57:15] clarification [00:57:27] yeah no you know unfortunately I think [00:57:29] it's a [00:57:36] collections of taxes in April [00:57:40] look at the fire department expenses oh [00:57:43] we gave more than what they asked for [00:57:45] yes we gave fire [00:57:48] nine thousand dollars more so so he [00:57:51] could clean it he's got some expenses [00:57:52] that he wants to clean up so we make [00:57:54] that one this year [00:57:56] their carrier they're going to be stuff [00:57:59] that he needs to do for next year we [00:58:01] already supplemented him eight thousand [00:58:03] dollars in his expense accounts [00:58:06] the trucks are aging [00:58:09] we had to fix the pumps on them [00:58:12] what have you saw [00:58:14] just as a precaution we did that are [00:58:17] they going to try for another Grant this [00:58:19] year he said he is [00:58:22] tries every year he tries every year [00:58:25] yeah but what is this newest newest [00:58:28] vehicle his newest vehicle is at 8 30 [00:58:30] years old [00:58:33] let's do it it's just [00:58:36] got a million dollars yeah [00:58:39] I don't think anybody here disagrees [00:58:45] well if we all get back our paycheck [00:58:48] s yeah [00:58:55] you guys too oh yeah that's right oh [00:58:58] yeah right I forgot [00:59:00] you guys your level of fun [00:59:04] thanks [00:59:06] we don't even get an expense [00:59:10] it used to be 200 bucks and every year [00:59:13] we would say we were going to get pizza [00:59:14] or something we never did like it just [00:59:16] sat there [00:59:21] right [00:59:22] actually speaking of the chief is he [00:59:25] given any the fire chief that is given [00:59:28] any indication when [00:59:30] he's staying around [00:59:40] just have a fire chief [00:59:44] well I mean we're gonna have to pay [00:59:45] somebody else to do the jobs [00:59:53] let's [00:59:54] even selling tickets he's just he's like [00:59:57] 34 000 yeah [01:00:08] all right any questions for us [01:00:13] so if we can just clean up a few of [01:00:15] those [01:00:17] things you'll find out on the interest [01:00:18] on the [01:00:21] 1.8 million [01:00:37] what is your voice sound like [01:00:40] some clarification why what are they [01:00:44] looking for [01:00:45] they would be looking for them to find [01:00:48] the cost savings [01:00:58] parents are pay though [01:01:04] yeah [01:01:05] okay [01:01:09] she helps out in other departments [01:01:14] for nothing [01:01:16] that's part of the reason why Marty gets [01:01:18] so much money is to do [01:01:29] I could yeah [01:01:35] um [01:01:41] get those things cleaned up [01:01:46] how about the first meeting in June [01:01:50] right are we still set for the third is [01:01:53] it the third Saturday or what's that [01:01:55] 24th 24 24th the fourth yeah [01:02:01] yeah yeah [01:02:02] the second yeah so the 12th we would be [01:02:08] great [01:02:11] for some reason something strange comes [01:02:13] up we'll just be we'll just yeah yeah [01:02:21] hopefully we'll have every other art [01:02:27] should happen [01:02:28] yeah and you can get a budget out to the [01:02:32] public [01:02:34] ahead of time [01:02:40] it'd be nice [01:02:46] yeah [01:02:47] I'm in agreement it's easier that way [01:02:49] yeah I mean even if we change it a [01:02:52] little bit because people are trapped [01:02:54] you know call it a draft yes yes [01:02:57] something's changed without [01:02:59] yes [01:03:01] yeah [01:03:04] [Music] [01:03:09] we'll redistribute as soon as we get [01:03:13] it [01:03:15] yeah [01:03:25] um [01:03:32] have a good night [01:03:38] all right thank you [01:03:49] depends underneath the town hall [01:03:51] printing so just those two switches [01:03:54] right yeah [01:03:56] you guys aren't doing anything else on [01:03:58] Election uh election day bylar [01:04:02] yeah right [01:04:03] I don't think so [01:04:06] pull the email [01:04:07] just give me two minutes [01:04:11] he's going to show me how to shut the [01:04:13] stove off okay [01:04:23] thank you [01:04:28] so we're oversight [01:04:32] really [01:04:34] enough [01:04:40] I'm not gonna lie you know I read like [01:04:42] blue heronies didn't offer much [01:04:45] guts than the one that was 249 Pages [01:04:49] well I'm going to say I passed right [01:04:51] over that sucker [01:04:53] um [01:04:54] so I did Skip through it and I will tell [01:04:57] you well the towns were rot like it was [01:04:58] right it was saying that it was you know [01:05:00] Hardwick was on the town hall was on air [01:05:03] Road and I don't I'm like oh my God this [01:05:05] is someone like copied and pasted and [01:05:07] it's really bad it was distracting [01:05:09] I didn't finish no yeah [01:05:12] um I I just I feel like it's [01:05:19] you know my thought was that you know we [01:05:22] would find somebody that would you know [01:05:24] just kind of act as like a liaison [01:05:27] during the project learn about I mean [01:05:30] you're not no one's coming in to [01:05:31] recreate the wheel the plans of the [01:05:33] plans unfortunately because it's USDA [01:05:37] probably not going to change much out in [01:05:39] the field right but it's someone keeping [01:05:41] eyes on the project [01:05:44] you know absolutely you know and I I I [01:05:48] will say that last week I do you know [01:05:51] about the Thursday morning calls with [01:05:53] DPC [01:05:55] so I'll forward you the email it's a [01:05:58] Colin it's a phone call every Thursday [01:06:00] at 10. [01:06:01] for us yep with the architect yep [01:06:05] yeah and um [01:06:07] uh sometimes USDA also joins on [01:06:13] um I think I've heard through the great [01:06:14] finds that maybe they will be this week [01:06:17] uh [01:06:19] but [01:06:21] Justin with DPC kind of got a little I [01:06:23] don't want to say offended or but he [01:06:26] kind of didn't think it was a good idea [01:06:28] that we were going to do this this just [01:06:30] one more person in the mix [01:06:32] and so I kind of stood on that all day [01:06:35] long and I kind of I kind of was like [01:06:36] well why you know because as a town [01:06:39] we're trying to protect ourselves and we [01:06:41] have we're here for the people of this [01:06:43] town and a lot of money's going into [01:06:45] this project even though a lot of money [01:06:47] is granted we're still you know we're [01:06:49] doing for the best of the people going [01:06:52] to end up paying more than we think and [01:06:54] in any case we have to you can't [01:06:57] you can't believe it's [01:07:00] a cliche right you're leaving the fox to [01:07:02] guard the Jacobs so exactly and how can [01:07:04] the same person that did the plans no [01:07:07] not not cleanly be able to say oh screw [01:07:11] it up here I totally agree and you know [01:07:14] they're they're come back to that as [01:07:17] well it's USDA [01:07:19] um [01:07:20] it's not like the last project we had [01:07:22] which okay I do I see that because USDA [01:07:25] also has their engineers and their you [01:07:27] know their people that if there was a [01:07:30] change or you know all of a sudden in [01:07:32] the field someone's like well I think [01:07:33] this has to change [01:07:34] it's gonna go have to go through them [01:07:36] too okay that's fine but again [01:07:40] looking out for us as a board [01:07:43] that represents the people in this town [01:07:45] so I actually called Nicole back later [01:07:47] that day because I was like I stood on [01:07:49] that all day long that they were pretty [01:07:51] not like not poo pooing it but why you [01:07:55] know and so not arguing but there's just [01:07:57] not agree you know just not thinking [01:07:59] that maybe it's in the best interest you [01:08:01] know for our funds or whatever and I'm [01:08:03] like no I'm gonna gonna tell you I [01:08:05] disagree with that and I explained to [01:08:07] her just that that here we are as a [01:08:10] board representing the people and there [01:08:13] has been enough skepticism and enough [01:08:15] concern from people [01:08:17] you know questioning all along these [01:08:20] projects and you know the necessity of [01:08:22] doing some of this work right so that's [01:08:25] what that person would be there [01:08:27] not to stick their nose in and say oh no [01:08:29] we got to change it there's no [01:08:31] recreating the wheel at this point [01:08:32] the plans have been done they probably [01:08:35] won't [01:08:36] stray too far from what they are [01:08:39] right well there are you know there are [01:08:41] many [01:08:42] decisions that are outside the plan [01:08:44] sometimes that need to be made that [01:08:48] aren't necessarily [01:08:49] change orders [01:08:51] just yeah but sometimes yeah you just [01:08:54] run into things and Scott [01:08:56] is gonna have to do his job and I made [01:08:59] that I said that very long and clear too [01:09:02] that it's not it's 100 not fall on [01:09:05] Scott's shoulders because he has his own [01:09:07] job to do and this is huge [01:09:10] this this is huge [01:09:12] so someone might just even have to [01:09:13] bounce around to say [01:09:15] they might need to shut something down [01:09:17] for a day [01:09:18] they're not there every day you know if [01:09:21] you know but why not get someone [01:09:23] involved now [01:09:24] to see the projects [01:09:26] happen [01:09:28] to learn about the plants as they're [01:09:30] being [01:09:31] recreated and you know upgraded and then [01:09:34] they'll be there to do the oversight [01:09:36] that we do need to buy the letter of [01:09:39] conditions have that person in place [01:09:42] so I just [01:09:44] let me tell you what happened to me [01:09:47] real right [01:09:48] here [01:09:51] we have that Grant [01:09:53] to do the thing and we hired a just [01:09:58] hired a new operator and [01:10:02] here's the commander of the BFW [01:10:07] worked out he was the operator for the [01:10:10] town [01:10:12] of treatment but he moved over he got a [01:10:15] better job and we hired a guy named [01:10:16] Bruce Evans who had all the credentials [01:10:19] in the world [01:10:20] and then we hired I think it was listed [01:10:23] in Samson [01:10:25] there were many engineering companies so [01:10:27] there was an engineer named Tony and [01:10:29] there was Bruce and they took the plan [01:10:32] and was all set and it was a grant [01:10:35] hey [01:10:36] and they changed the technical stuff [01:10:39] while they were doing it now there were [01:10:42] sewer Commissioners separate from [01:10:44] selectman [01:10:45] chair select should have been watching [01:10:49] they have the landfill Wars going [01:10:51] it's going very distracting these two [01:10:54] guys went off the reservation they came [01:10:57] up with their own experimental it [01:10:59] didn't work Bruce Evans not only quit he [01:11:02] moved away over a weekend he's in [01:11:05] Kentucky Kentucky or something [01:11:07] like that in Western Samson wasn't going [01:11:10] to stand behind the work done it was [01:11:13] changed in the field and by then it kind [01:11:16] of collapsed [01:11:17] longer a selection the selectment didn't [01:11:20] chase [01:11:21] that money but it my point is it should [01:11:24] have been another person absolutely not [01:11:26] the engineering outfit that was doing [01:11:28] the job absolutely not the guy working [01:11:30] through the town I needed to be somebody [01:11:32] over here [01:11:34] just going hey what why are you yeah not [01:11:37] fun you know and that's why I like I [01:11:40] said I I kind of stood on on the [01:11:42] conversation in the morning and I you [01:11:44] know and she listened you know I will [01:11:45] say she's like I get it she's like but I [01:11:48] just don't know what I'm asking you know [01:11:49] to put something together [01:11:51] you know you know [01:11:53] well I guess we all right are we trying [01:11:56] to just hire Clerks [01:11:59] developers project [01:12:02] all right I feel we need more than that [01:12:04] I do too I mean I I think my other fear [01:12:07] that with this Sewer Department [01:12:10] in the tenure of it [01:12:13] um [01:12:14] they it's it's a hard thing like [01:12:18] these these guys can get a job accident [01:12:20] so there's a good chance that any day [01:12:23] yeah [01:12:26] I mean right now we seem to be holding [01:12:28] our own [01:12:29] the labor that we have but [01:12:31] I mean to have another [01:12:33] person involved gives another [01:12:38] way I just forwarded you guys that [01:12:40] column number [01:12:41] I reported it to you and I included [01:12:43] thank you [01:12:45] all right well you know the [01:12:48] planning board when we we're doing the [01:12:51] site plan review [01:12:52] we use Graves [01:12:55] near not [01:12:56] Madness [01:12:57] said they they're not in-house [01:13:00] we're used to working with this one guy [01:13:02] Walsh so when we needed some technical [01:13:06] oversight of something that was being [01:13:08] posed we all them in and then the [01:13:12] applicant pays debts peer review so I [01:13:16] mean it's kind I guess that's kind of [01:13:18] what I'm asking for I don't know Clerk [01:13:21] of the works is specific you know it's [01:13:24] it's another position I don't know [01:13:26] I don't know how the money works but we [01:13:29] really need somebody [01:13:31] extra [01:13:33] now [01:13:34] we don't get it can't be the architect [01:13:37] I that's yeah [01:13:40] right there's no checks and balance [01:13:42] I was kind of floored that they were [01:13:46] they thought they were going to do it [01:13:48] too they sent over proposal it's kind of [01:13:50] rude [01:13:52] I I just I've never seen it in my day I [01:13:54] mean I've worked construction for a long [01:13:56] time it never has you know there's [01:13:58] always a checks and balance [01:14:01] the other thing is [01:14:04] we I mean [01:14:06] whenever you build something new [01:14:09] we're going to [01:14:10] do now that yeah [01:14:12] things are just going to work different [01:14:14] than you used to you know there's going [01:14:16] to be little technical issues so it's [01:14:18] going to be a little bugs in this thing [01:14:19] I've built my own house but that's why I [01:14:21] feel like [01:14:23] that's what that's why I'm wondering [01:14:25] like if the same person you bring that [01:14:28] person in to do the oversight is going [01:14:30] to be the same [01:14:31] company or firm or you know to well can [01:14:35] we just invite in three different [01:14:38] companies that do this [01:14:40] to discuss with [01:14:43] when you have them give us a [01:14:46] rest day within the [01:14:48] curement laws I don't know hey that's [01:14:51] not cool yeah because my my feel is like [01:14:56] you got to put it out there for them to [01:14:58] to come to you right they don't respond [01:15:00] to sometimes you have to reach out [01:15:31] I guess we don't have to worry about the [01:15:32] treatment plan nope [01:15:36] um there you go well maybe that's a [01:15:38] question for Nicole to see if we can [01:15:40] but do we know [01:15:42] three firms that do this there's a [01:15:45] couple National companies [01:15:47] because I I don't you know white water [01:15:50] there's Blue Heron there's [01:15:54] questions [01:15:59] you know you just ask them to come in [01:16:02] almost informally that created or if we [01:16:05] don't know what we're asking that's yeah [01:16:07] but out of a conversation maybe [01:16:19] I had a discussion [01:16:23] right I just met with them and [01:16:25] the coal Networks [01:16:28] and [01:16:29] but they didn't present a lot like right [01:16:32] well I don't think they know what we're [01:16:33] asking for yeah [01:16:35] explain to them what we're asking for [01:16:38] yes fair enough [01:16:40] I mean I think we're asking for someone [01:16:42] to do maybe a couple days a week of [01:16:45] oversight even if it's like a part-time [01:16:47] thing right be able to answer any [01:16:49] questions or [01:16:51] deal with any issues yep I would agree [01:16:54] with that [01:16:55] who understand plans and I mean I mean [01:16:58] they looked over they've already looked [01:16:59] over the plants that blue very good yeah [01:17:05] concerned about [01:17:07] but again at this point it doesn't [01:17:09] matter I think it is what it is like [01:17:11] because USDA has you know well and they [01:17:14] even say that yeah they said oh you know [01:17:16] I think that's their concern I think [01:17:19] that's what dpc's biggest concern is [01:17:21] well you know are you looking for [01:17:23] someone to come in and you know recreate [01:17:24] the will like no that's not what we're [01:17:26] that's not at all what we're looking for [01:17:28] it's to represent the town you know here [01:17:32] as a board we represent the people that [01:17:34] are going to pay for this [01:17:36] it's not like you know let's not [01:17:39] have it go to [01:17:40] excuse me there's a there's a bunch [01:17:42] of alternates there too so if depending [01:17:46] on how the money is spent [01:17:47] what ultimate is [01:17:51] yeah find somebody to make sure they [01:17:54] stay honest [01:17:55] absolutely [01:17:58] I mean and anyone in that in that [01:18:01] position should understand that [01:18:04] you know so uh there's Paul Benoit who [01:18:09] actually knows a lot of stuff about [01:18:14] he [01:18:15] called them brought it up to grade under [01:18:18] Saint Vincent's all the [01:18:21] grading the plumbing the drainage [01:18:23] everything [01:18:24] really knows I don't know if he'd be [01:18:27] willing [01:18:28] and I don't know if we're talking a [01:18:30] full-time or part-time or what well I [01:18:33] think like Rob said I mean the same [01:18:35] thing like a couple days ago [01:18:37] but then you're looking for someone for [01:18:39] oversight of of the whole operation that [01:18:42] has to be in place when the job's done [01:18:44] right but even that that's more [01:18:47] a couple days a week right now that's [01:18:49] making sure everything I don't think [01:18:50] it's in every yeah chemicals I mean [01:18:53] correct even Skye he gets overwhelmed [01:18:56] with stuff and he forgot to order by [01:18:57] accident so then you have the smell [01:19:00] issues so you'll think you know it's [01:19:02] good for him to have some [01:19:05] don't disagree [01:19:08] even though he's going to have new plans [01:19:10] we still have an old collection system [01:19:12] yeah [01:19:16] and everything in the road is not new [01:19:19] no [01:19:20] no again you're going to have issues no [01:19:22] matter what you're doing [01:19:24] that I agree pumps are only going to [01:19:25] last [01:19:26] two or three years and actually every [01:19:29] one of those pumps you're supposed to [01:19:31] in the maintenance manual is pull them [01:19:33] out annually [01:19:34] basically take them apart and reveal [01:19:38] that that prevents them because the the [01:19:40] colors wear out and they had bearings [01:19:43] that go on them [01:19:44] I'm sure that stuff's not getting done [01:19:46] just because [01:19:50] so I I guess no I would welcome people [01:19:53] coming in and you know kind of helping [01:19:55] us through this [01:19:57] you want me to talk to Paul [01:20:01] yeah you guys must know in your work [01:20:05] yeah [01:20:18] I don't know what his qualifications are [01:20:20] but [01:20:21] I don't think he's got educational [01:20:23] certificates [01:20:27] but has he has he done sewer treatment [01:20:31] plants [01:20:33] sure and [01:20:37] he was a superintendent [01:20:39] no I know I was but did he he did sewer [01:20:42] treatment plants yeah that I mean that [01:20:43] would be my you know [01:20:50] maybe he could help us yeah maybe [01:20:52] Plus figure out what we're gonna like [01:20:54] you know right I just want to make sure [01:20:57] we spell it out correctly right I think [01:20:59] we're all on the same page I just don't [01:21:01] know [01:21:02] I've never written an RFQ so that's a [01:21:05] little above my pay grade would we be uh [01:21:08] you know I mean I could give it hell but [01:21:10] I'm not sure [01:21:12] I think we've asked legal they've [01:21:16] worked I don't know [01:21:18] I could ask Paul to kind of [01:21:22] explain what he thinks he's [01:21:25] send it to all of us [01:21:31] if he'd be breaking rules we're not [01:21:34] deliberating no as long as we're not [01:21:36] correct he can send us information we [01:21:39] can't say we can't take a vote on it [01:21:41] throw an email right right but then [01:21:43] maybe we have something a letter or yeah [01:21:45] to look at for next meeting okay that [01:21:48] would be helpful and if you got to [01:21:49] respond to them just separate your [01:21:51] response separately yeah [01:21:57] that that's a place to start yeah I mean [01:21:59] he he talked my ear off about [01:22:02] this whole thing [01:22:04] back when I ran [01:22:07] I mean he understands what's going on [01:22:12] he's up here yep I think we were just [01:22:15] looking for a clerk of the works I think [01:22:17] he'd be a good [01:22:25] yeah he could help us a lot and say [01:22:28] what's going on [01:22:30] yes [01:22:33] he probably doesn't know exactly what [01:22:34] what to ask for yeah [01:22:38] I've never built this [01:22:40] treatment plan [01:22:41] you know [01:22:43] and I'll try it but I screwed it up [01:22:45] talking to Benny after he was done here [01:22:49] he was working on one in Orange [01:22:52] it was already a design issue [01:22:55] that was unforeseen so yikes [01:23:00] all the time [01:23:02] they're trying to figure out how to get [01:23:04] around something [01:23:09] that's GPC yeah [01:23:13] does [01:23:14] and Survey it just happens yeah it does [01:23:17] happen you take millions of shots [01:23:23] we just had it happen and we went just [01:23:27] basically [01:23:28] we did it based on the plan and guess [01:23:31] what [01:23:32] plan was wrong [01:23:34] and you know what we were told we should [01:23:35] have known [01:23:38] have gone off the reservation you don't [01:23:40] do that you know you follow a plan [01:23:43] and engineer designs a plan [01:23:46] it's what you're given it's what you [01:23:47] follow [01:23:48] and guess what it was wrong [01:23:52] ceilings you know it just it happens [01:23:56] no one's you know [01:23:57] no one's perfect [01:24:04] but keep this on I would say let's keep [01:24:07] this on the agenda until we get through [01:24:10] it [01:24:11] all right let's uh [01:24:14] let's kind of skip down to the email [01:24:15] yeah [01:24:19] thanks [01:24:22] bro I just um [01:24:24] you know I just I want to Advocate that [01:24:27] I think it's really critically important [01:24:28] I mean I know it's an extra thousand [01:24:30] bucks [01:24:31] but a couple of things it's it's [01:24:34] branding I mean if we're [01:24:36] harvard-anime.gov and our emails are [01:24:40] clerkit.heart.com it does cause some [01:24:42] confusion [01:24:44] I have given the call a few things that [01:24:46] I picked up from cyber security I don't [01:24:48] know if she forwarded all that I guess [01:24:49] I'm going to pause right now because I'm [01:24:51] confused I thought we were talking about [01:24:54] the school email oh I'm sorry I thought [01:24:57] you're talking about the email [01:24:59] wait I'm very confused right now so all [01:25:03] right so yes so Lauren Mason brought [01:25:06] something this is something that I had [01:25:07] always done I was planning on [01:25:09] approaching about anyways and I really [01:25:12] think we should move our municipal [01:25:13] election to Saturday [01:25:17] um first second or third in my opinion [01:25:19] uh I think we would get better turnout [01:25:23] but mainly we wouldn't have to deal with [01:25:25] school they are they're scared crapless [01:25:29] for a good reason you know anybody could [01:25:31] just walk in there and I get it it's [01:25:33] scary right now yeah it is so you know [01:25:36] the thing is is even having an officer [01:25:37] there and all that I mean I totally get [01:25:39] it [01:25:40] as far as the other elections I put it [01:25:42] back on the school committee it's like [01:25:44] look you guys adopt your calendar you [01:25:46] know when like you know when State [01:25:48] elections [01:25:49] you know they're always going to be on a [01:25:51] Tuesday so you can very easily set your [01:25:55] calendar ahead of time so that you're [01:25:57] not having school in session [01:25:59] so [01:26:00] I'm going to propose that we put a bylaw [01:26:03] I'm going to change the annual Town [01:26:05] election [01:26:06] you know we can pick a day or discuss it [01:26:08] at the meeting but um I'm looking into [01:26:10] Saturday more than likely second or [01:26:12] third I don't know you know Mother's Day [01:26:14] is I think is the what Second Sunday [01:26:17] so maybe the third Saturday which is [01:26:20] Before Memorial Day in May yeah [01:26:26] good Lord [01:26:28] April [01:26:41] but you know and at the same time you [01:26:44] know our annual supposed to be in May we [01:26:46] always hold it let's let's come up with [01:26:49] you know a day for to propose to the [01:26:53] voters to say this is when the annual [01:26:55] meetings would you would you put that on [01:26:57] an article for this town meeting yes [01:26:58] absolutely yeah it's a bylaw chain yep [01:27:01] so I'm you know looking like I said [01:27:04] second or third Saturday for the [01:27:06] election [01:27:06] and then whatever you feel would be [01:27:08] comfortable for [01:27:10] um town meeting you don't want to do it [01:27:12] in April why not [01:27:14] because of the school because of the [01:27:17] hours [01:27:18] um it's the weather can be terrible I [01:27:21] don't want to have to worry about [01:27:21] lighting I've got lighting where I don't [01:27:23] have to worry at eight o'clock at night [01:27:26] then if I keep late it could go into May [01:27:28] so [01:27:32] I mean it's eventually up to the [01:27:34] townspeople to decide on that we've had [01:27:36] we've had we've had elections in [01:27:37] February we've had elections in March [01:27:39] we've had them in April and other [01:27:42] communities you know you've got to have [01:27:43] them between January and June your town [01:27:45] meeting has to be done by June the 30th [01:27:47] the vote that you made was you [01:27:49] technically had to postpone the meeting [01:27:51] because otherwise it's supposed to be [01:27:52] tonight [01:27:54] um [01:27:54] so if we're going to push it to June [01:27:57] let's just come up with a static date [01:27:59] that we know it's going to be [01:28:05] so I had replied back [01:28:07] and uh you know the other stuff is just [01:28:09] in the school Community sense [01:28:12] I can't do anything about it let's see [01:28:14] there's no other place that we can vote [01:28:16] so you're going to propose you're gonna [01:28:18] I'll draft an article for this for this [01:28:20] can I respond to Lauren and say that [01:28:23] we're you know okay because they didn't [01:28:25] respond back to her and I didn't either [01:28:28] I think on that no and so because I [01:28:30] figured we'd have we'd talk and then you [01:28:32] know if you're okay with me responding [01:28:34] back to her yes I did say that we had [01:28:37] forwarded it off and you had some [01:28:38] concerns as well but now that we've had [01:28:40] a conversation [01:28:43] um I think I think that the town [01:28:45] election so close to [01:28:49] um the town annual town meeting [01:28:53] when you elect new members to The Board [01:28:56] and they'll have to be trying to [01:28:58] finalize the budget and all that [01:29:02] you won't have time that's how it that's [01:29:04] how it is now though you can call you [01:29:07] can call you can call the town election [01:29:09] and the town meeting within the same [01:29:11] warrant because they're within 35 days [01:29:13] and historically that's always been the [01:29:15] case so it's it [01:29:18] if someone's going to run for office [01:29:21] and they beat an incumbent [01:29:24] it's kind of incumbent upon that [01:29:25] Challenger to be up to speed in a [01:29:27] budgetary process right so or adult run [01:29:30] so to use the argument that they're [01:29:33] going to be behind well there's been [01:29:35] meetings going on for months prior to [01:29:37] that [01:29:38] you know as we've seen tonight so but [01:29:41] historically they were involved in the [01:29:43] same warrant and we could do that [01:29:45] because they were done 35 days [01:29:47] the first order of business is to choose [01:29:50] the officers and then at the adjournment [01:29:52] of that meeting you hold your hand will [01:29:54] tell me [01:29:57] yeah I'm not [01:29:59] that concerns me too much I mean again I [01:30:02] think you may have no point anyone that [01:30:03] is willing to run [01:30:06] hopefully knows what they're getting [01:30:07] into first of all and [01:30:10] we'll dig in and [01:30:12] get confidence it's not just one person [01:30:14] that's putting that budget together no [01:30:17] doesn't people [01:30:20] certainly bring that out I mean when [01:30:22] it's discussed [01:30:26] being the new guy you can duck a lot of [01:30:28] this work I don't have to understand [01:30:36] thank you [01:30:39] [Music] [01:30:40] yeah okay if you want to put that [01:30:43] together I will yeah yeah [01:30:46] I'll have to go Nicole and Angie yeah [01:30:49] the boilerplate and then there's all the [01:30:51] other ones and she had asked me again [01:30:52] she's like she said you know [01:30:54] we need a special for prior years bills [01:30:57] and it's like no no no anything you want [01:30:59] get rid of that a couple years yes yeah [01:31:01] yeah anything and everything okay we [01:31:04] used to open it have like one vote or [01:31:06] maybe [01:31:22] all right so what did you have for about [01:31:25] emails so about emails regarding yeah so [01:31:28] regarding you know going to Harvard [01:31:30] Dodge Dash and me.gov so and I'll be [01:31:34] very quick there there are legitimate [01:31:36] security concerns and I just want to [01:31:38] show you something [01:31:40] just for me for the last two days so [01:31:44] this came to me [01:31:46] you know subject matter High your [01:31:48] password is going to expire click this [01:31:50] link oh yeah I get those all the time so [01:31:53] and then you get this one today as well [01:31:55] now on the dot gov they do have stronger [01:31:58] fishing and at the same time [01:32:00] here's one right here for Belmont I had [01:32:03] sent off to the group [01:32:05] you get this little border that says [01:32:07] caution [01:32:08] outside of your agency [01:32:10] I'm simply just trying to state that [01:32:13] it's money well spent because [01:32:16] the [01:32:18] is something were to happen where [01:32:19] somebody were to do that click the wrong [01:32:21] thing and download the wrong thing into [01:32:23] the servers it's going to cost a hell of [01:32:25] a lot more than a thousand dollars to to [01:32:28] fix it [01:32:29] so from a security standpoint a big on [01:32:31] some you know we'll have another [01:32:33] conversation about security at this [01:32:34] building someday but the the I.T [01:32:38] infrastructure I'm just advocating that [01:32:41] we really need to switch the emails off [01:32:43] of that town however to the harvard.gov [01:32:50] I thought we did I thought we did too oh [01:32:52] we didn't change the emails over yet and [01:32:55] I think that has to do with that liftoff [01:32:57] too [01:33:02] on that okay okay in regards to getting [01:33:05] it actually can we get the it [01:33:08] person in here [01:33:10] yeah [01:33:11] because I think really that's the way we [01:33:13] got to go we gotta ask them questions [01:33:14] because I don't it's like we're playing [01:33:17] this game we asked Nicole a question [01:33:18] then she tries to get back [01:33:21] Paul's kind of cool too right we just [01:33:23] switched over at work to him yeah he's a [01:33:26] good guy just make sure we got [01:33:27] everything where we want to be anybody [01:33:29] in the building that's got concerns we [01:33:31] just just address them and [01:33:34] try to move forward with it [01:33:38] the letter games [01:33:41] all right perfect thank you thanks Ryan [01:33:45] thanks Kelly thanks Rob thanks Eric [01:33:47] Andrew anymore [01:33:59] time correct and you guys got the [01:34:02] correspondence from KP law about [01:34:04] betterments [01:34:07] hopefully it's in here no [01:34:10] um it was emailed from Kathleen Klein [01:34:13] earlier today [01:34:14] I went through my uh [01:34:19] you saw it though [01:34:21] okay yeah but it does say that we need [01:34:24] to [01:34:25] it does [01:34:27] um [01:34:28] just some things that were interesting [01:34:30] you don't necessarily have to have [01:34:32] public hearings though but I think [01:34:34] they're I think they are important just [01:34:36] to put the information out there right [01:34:38] um but it does have to go to an annual [01:34:40] or a special time meeting [01:34:42] and they kind of gave us some wording [01:34:44] for the [01:34:46] um [01:34:46] you know what the [01:34:48] vote would look like [01:34:50] um [01:34:51] and this is specifically about better [01:34:53] just better ones yeah and um [01:34:57] the other it just you kind of said like [01:35:00] the different ways in which we could [01:35:01] assess you know whether it's you know [01:35:04] per job overall the tax base [01:35:08] um [01:35:08] the tax base if we were to [01:35:12] go by the tax base like we talked about [01:35:14] last week [01:35:16] um [01:35:16] you have to consider people that aren't [01:35:18] taxpayers [01:35:20] users that aren't taxpayers [01:35:23] right well those are rent tours [01:35:26] that are renting an apartment so the [01:35:29] biggest one of the biggest users [01:35:35] so those are things [01:35:37] well so then you then you do a [01:35:41] essentially a pilot [01:35:44] you know and [01:35:46] you know I would think DJ would agree [01:35:49] I think he thinks that this he agrees [01:35:52] with this [01:35:55] formula [01:35:57] doing it that way [01:35:58] so I mean [01:36:02] he thought it was a good idea not that [01:36:04] if it rules but [01:36:06] he would have to pay he people who would [01:36:10] have to pay their fair share [01:36:15] yeah just just one more step [01:36:18] yeah so just things to think about do we [01:36:21] want to know we need to have this [01:36:24] so we really need to decide next week [01:36:28] we have next Tuesday we have a we did [01:36:32] like an info at six [01:36:35] what [01:36:36] yeah okay yeah I was like we did [01:36:38] schedules yeah and so I think we're [01:36:40] going to be in person but we're going to [01:36:41] do it soon too [01:36:43] to allow people here and on zoom and [01:36:46] we're going to be telling them more [01:36:49] we'll go over what our plans for [01:36:52] talking about better make our final [01:36:54] decision on how to do this at that [01:36:56] meeting you think so [01:36:59] you may be ready to [01:37:00] I want to take it off the table but [01:37:03] you present an Avenue but we need to get [01:37:06] we need to know uh if we're thinking [01:37:10] that then we were going to add [01:37:14] properties that could hook up we need [01:37:16] that number [01:37:17] and we also need well technically the [01:37:21] tax base number the numbers don't [01:37:24] cash value number doesn't mean all that [01:37:27] much because [01:37:28] so we need to know like I mean well [01:37:31] until the Project's done [01:37:33] yeah technically aren't going to have a [01:37:34] truck no we won't so I'm a little [01:37:36] hesitant [01:37:38] you know you almost want to say it [01:37:40] roughly yeah whenever you [01:37:43] ever you have to because we [01:37:44] because we won't know [01:37:46] be arranged if we do it for the tax [01:37:52] referral on people because [01:37:54] the variations [01:37:57] figure [01:37:59] and started the school that paying taxes [01:38:03] we just it's just something else that we [01:38:05] just have to make sure we're aware of [01:38:07] that [01:38:08] we present [01:38:09] to [01:38:11] public meeting [01:38:14] four different [01:38:16] possibilities I don't think we'll get [01:38:17] any [01:38:19] that's right right so right yeah that's [01:38:22] like we have to I think we have to like [01:38:24] present the option that we feel is the [01:38:27] best for everybody and then that gets [01:38:30] voted on [01:38:31] so we decide that right now [01:38:35] yeah good you know what you want well [01:38:37] the boat has to go to the town beating [01:38:39] though no to make it work but we have to [01:38:42] right we have to correct well we're [01:38:45] going to present [01:38:47] we don't have all the information [01:38:49] right I don't know if that would help [01:38:53] but I thought she was gonna work she was [01:38:55] working on that Lori Stevens but like I [01:38:58] said I believe [01:39:02] the additional information that they [01:39:04] were she was gonna [01:39:05] I want to say that I mean I remember [01:39:07] when they put them in I have a plan at [01:39:09] home [01:39:15] pressurized name [01:39:20] I have the actual plan [01:39:24] the line yeah so like so anyone that [01:39:28] could hook up [01:39:29] it's on there but I like I said [01:39:31] something like 30. [01:39:35] I think there was 40 something [01:39:41] 30 steps yeah they're sitting there [01:39:43] unused yeah [01:39:46] it's going to be over time [01:39:51] because eventually their systems will [01:39:53] fail and they'll have to [01:39:55] but that line honestly was not designed [01:39:59] sign problem a line was [01:40:03] a small center of town [01:40:04] the school [01:40:06] maybe like 20 resident homes there's a [01:40:11] 24 water hookups correct right [01:40:14] so that's what they designed it for now [01:40:17] if we try to do a build out betterment [01:40:19] build out [01:40:20] more so than just those subs I think [01:40:23] we're [01:40:24] we're getting into that area with [01:40:27] right we're not designed for that so you [01:40:29] really don't want to push that [01:40:34] yeah we were trying to take it down [01:40:37] we were thinking about a greenhouse [01:40:39] sewer [01:40:40] sewage treatment facility [01:40:44] and looking at those [01:40:46] um [01:40:48] yeah they're working on it [01:40:55] and I can hear the whistle at my house [01:40:57] it means [01:40:58] [Music] [01:41:00] they can [01:41:04] well uh [01:41:08] decide tonight [01:41:14] 's meeting isn't posted on my title [01:41:17] government yeah [01:41:20] it's Tuesdays and currently [01:41:23] uh like for this meeting it was only [01:41:26] posted on Thursday afternoon at four [01:41:30] something [01:41:31] right it has to be posted 48 hours I [01:41:33] know but [01:41:34] it went [01:41:37] um in the town of Hardwick the calendar [01:41:40] it's not being put up there you can't [01:41:42] plan two weeks ahead and you can't see [01:41:46] when the meetings are going to be [01:41:48] I can't plan to accept it yeah [01:41:51] um I mean you when they fill out the [01:41:54] calendar page oh so maybe they're not [01:41:56] putting them in there yeah okay yeah so [01:41:58] maybe that's can we yeah because I [01:42:00] usually email Julie Marquette so I don't [01:42:03] know she's trying to step back yeah so I [01:42:06] but we used to be able to see you know [01:42:09] the whole world [01:42:12] so I think on the old calendar it used [01:42:15] to say it used to list every the second [01:42:18] and the fourth right yeah like so [01:42:20] planning board is typically the third [01:42:22] Wednesday the con conservation is [01:42:24] normally the third one you know the [01:42:26] second Wednesday so those who used to [01:42:28] always be on there just like as a [01:42:30] reference point right yes yeah maybe we [01:42:33] could I think she was I think because it [01:42:35] was an issue with the calendar to begin [01:42:37] with [01:42:39] go under that department it will list [01:42:43] when they're meeting it is [01:42:44] kind of having a little bit of an issue [01:42:47] with that calendar in the beginning [01:42:51] I do remember there was that [01:42:53] conversation with that [01:42:55] because even if if you know they don't [01:42:58] get the agenda to post until the [01:43:00] Thursday before [01:43:02] it's nice to know when they're so needed [01:43:06] you can join myself [01:43:08] oh yeah [01:43:10] so join the meeting [01:43:12] do we have anything else to say [01:43:15] uh no the only thing Nicole wanted me to [01:43:17] bring up is um [01:43:19] about someone that we liked for my [01:43:21] replacement [01:43:22] oh and she wasn't sure if you guys were [01:43:26] okay to [01:43:29] to or do you want to move it off to the [01:43:31] next you're leaving [01:43:35] um [01:43:42] good [01:43:48] it's always good to me [01:43:49] right [01:43:52] do you have a deadline you have to be [01:43:54] out of here [01:43:55] um I was giving her to the end of June [01:43:57] so I will be here to train the new [01:43:59] person [01:44:00] foreign [01:44:28] it doesn't I mean [01:44:31] schedule a meeting [01:44:34] we could meet her quickly first [01:44:37] chairman [01:44:38] right [01:44:40] can you see if she can come in at six on [01:44:42] Tuesday just to meet us yeah yeah [01:44:44] perfect [01:44:45] does that sound good yeah and then we'll [01:44:47] just meet her quickly and then we'll go [01:44:48] into betterments yeah [01:44:52] maybe we can even discuss sewer [01:44:56] oversight oversight [01:44:59] oh yeah I'm pretty sure [01:45:04] do you want me to photocopy this Eric or [01:45:06] are you okay just reading it in your [01:45:08] email if it's in the email okay I'm just [01:45:10] gonna open it up this afternoon [01:45:19] anybody else [01:45:21] please [01:45:24] thank you thank you [01:45:42] let's go behind a tree I guess I can [01:45:45] make it home it's not that far of a ride