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Administrative Updates, Appointments, and Committee Discussions

Original title: Hardwick, MA Board of Selectmen Meeting 2/13/23

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Date

February 14, 2023

Duration

1h 48m

Decisions

5 recorded

Action Items

23 assigned

Summary

The Hardwick Board of Selectmen convened to address a range of administrative and operational matters. Key actions included the appointment of Ned Kelly to the Council on Aging, approval for a police storage container, and the abatement of outstanding hydrant maintenance bills. Significant discussions revolved around the Board of Health's relationship with Leicester, the status of condemned structures on Church Street, and the need to clarify and potentially restructure various town committees such as the Master Plan, Community Development Advisory, Capital Planning, and a potential Building Committee. The Town Administrator also provided updates on the sewer project, employee wellness initiatives, and the town's budget outlook, which currently shows a substantial deficit.

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The Board approved moving the appointment of Ned Kelly to the Council on Aging to the beginning of the meeting.
Discussion occurred regarding the Board of Health's termination of its agreement with Leicester and the hiring of an 'as needed' agent, with concerns raised about the loss of expertise and communication breakdown.
The status of condemned structures on Church Street was reviewed, noting extensive prior work by the former Board of Health agent and legal action, with current jurisdiction unclear between the Board of Health and the Building Inspector.
The Board reviewed three quotes for a 20-foot police storage container for evidence, to be located on Lower Road and funded by ARPA money.
Permission was granted to Q Drug to place purple ribbons around town for substance awareness from February 25-26, to be removed by March 12, with a suggestion to promote this on the town website and Facebook page.
The Board discussed the abatement of $8,050 in outstanding hydrant maintenance bills from fiscal year 2022, which were never assigned to the tax collector for collection.
An update was provided on the sewer project change order, confirming a new location north of the common and a pre-construction meeting in early March.
The annual tax map maintenance proposal from CAI Technologies for $1,900 was presented.
A one-day alcohol license for the Friends of Stone Church's Irish luncheon fundraiser on March 11, with Stone Cow providing alcohol, was discussed, pending submission of all required paperwork.
Extensive discussion took place regarding the structure and purpose of town committees, including the Master Plan, Community Development Advisory Committee (CDAC), Capital Planning Committee, and the potential need for a Building Committee, with calls for clarification on their charges and appointments.
The Town Administrator's report highlighted progress on the USDA sewer project, the transition to a .gov domain, a wellness grant for employee break room equipment and stand-up desks, and the issue of uninsured vacant town-owned parcels.
Concerns were raised about the current building inspector's responsiveness and the difficulty residents face in obtaining permits, impacting potential town revenue.
The initial budget review for the upcoming fiscal year indicates a $571,000 deficit.
An upcoming Pathfinder School Committee budget presentation on March 15th was announced, with an expected increase in assessments.
The new town website is expected to go live around February 20th, pending the .gov domain transition, and the Board was encouraged to review it for feedback.
The Board discussed the purpose and frequency of Selectmen's monthly meetings with department heads, considering whether to continue them monthly or switch to quarterly.
The USDA has approved paying for the town's sewer debt, amounting to approximately $2.7 million.

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Meetings for Monday February 13 2023 to order at 6 30 pm I'll read the agenda call to order Pledge of Allegiance visitors comments little business Board of Health meeting Ari the loss of Leicester obio age
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Agreement and impacts condemn structures on Church Street police storage container other old business new business Q drug mission to place purple ribbons around town for substance awareness weekend of February 25 to 26th and remove them on March 12th hydrant abatements appointment and procedure Ned
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Kelly for COA sewer project change order tax map maintenance proposal one-day license Stone Church other new business discussion interval relative to arpa funding committee reports miscellaneous correspondence account administrator reports signatures and approvals
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Selectman Roundtable and adjournment so if we could all rise and um do the Pledge of Allegiance that'd be great there is a flag behind the Gulf foreign
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Okay so behind Nicole I think we have two alices so Nicole has asked if we could take the agenda out of order a little bit so that we could do the appointments and
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Procedure for Ned Kelly for COA Kelly and Rob are you okay with that I'm fine with that okay so we are going to move uh under new business letter C appointments and procedure Ned Kelly for stay away to the front I believe do we have a letter in our
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Packet yes Kelly and Rob any questions or concerns on this in heaven yeah
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[00:00:00] meetings for Monday February 13 2023 [00:00:04] to order at 6 30 pm [00:00:06] I'll read the agenda [00:00:09] um call to order Pledge of Allegiance [00:00:12] visitors comments little business Board [00:00:15] of Health meeting [00:00:17] um Ari the loss of Leicester obio age [00:00:20] agreement and impacts condemn structures [00:00:22] on Church Street police storage [00:00:24] container other old business new [00:00:27] business Q drug mission to place purple [00:00:29] ribbons around town for substance [00:00:31] awareness weekend of February 25 to 26th [00:00:34] and remove them on March 12th hydrant [00:00:37] abatements appointment and procedure Ned [00:00:39] Kelly for COA sewer project change order [00:00:41] tax map maintenance proposal one-day [00:00:45] license Stone Church other new business [00:00:48] discussion interval relative to arpa [00:00:50] funding committee reports miscellaneous [00:00:53] correspondence account administrator [00:00:55] reports signatures and approvals [00:00:57] selectman Roundtable and adjournment [00:01:00] um so if we could all rise and um do the [00:01:05] Pledge of Allegiance that'd be great [00:01:07] there is a flag behind the Gulf [00:01:09] foreign [00:01:26] okay so [00:01:29] um behind Nicole I think we have two [00:01:32] alices [00:01:33] um so [00:01:35] um Nicole has asked if we could [00:01:38] um take the agenda out of order a little [00:01:41] bit so that [00:01:42] um we could do the appointments and [00:01:44] procedure for Ned Kelly for COA Kelly [00:01:47] and Rob are you okay with that [00:01:49] I'm fine with that [00:01:51] okay so we are going to move uh under [00:01:54] new business letter C appointments and [00:01:56] procedure Ned Kelly for stay away to the [00:01:59] front [00:02:00] um [00:02:01] I believe do we have a letter in our [00:02:03] packet [00:02:04] um yes [00:02:07] um [00:02:13] Kelly and Rob any questions or concerns [00:02:16] on this [00:02:18] in heaven [00:02:19] yeah [00:02:22] no anything anything that Alice you want [00:02:26] to say relative to the appointment of [00:02:27] Ned to the COA [00:02:29] does anybody want to say anything about [00:02:31] the appointment [00:02:33] um [00:02:35] yeah they hope that you appoint him [00:02:42] tell you rob any discussion on that [00:02:51] I would make a motion that we appoint [00:02:53] Ned Kelly to the Council on Aging of [00:02:56] Hardwick [00:02:57] do we know the term Nicole [00:03:04] whose vacancy is he filling [00:03:23] for example [00:03:32] I can't find it it was [00:03:35] on the website [00:04:04] foreign [00:04:13] we have a listing of appointments that [00:04:16] we appointed um in July I can look and [00:04:18] see if I can find them [00:04:21] it was [00:04:24] I always look at it on the page on our [00:04:25] website and I [00:04:27] don't see it [00:04:31] now I have [00:04:32] [Music] [00:04:33] um [00:05:07] okay [00:05:09] um [00:05:14] Gloria's off right she's the one that's [00:05:16] off now yes okay [00:05:18] oh she's still on there though [00:05:26] it's an associate has to be a point no [00:05:29] we don't we don't have any right now [00:05:32] um [00:05:44] there would be [00:05:46] 3 24 25 [00:05:48] the next the next it would be 2023 [00:05:54] um [00:05:56] this year [00:06:02] I'm looking at all the appointments as [00:06:03] of June 30th 2022 [00:06:07] that are until June of 2020 [00:06:10] vacancy [00:06:12] and when I did all of these appointments [00:06:14] I stopped [00:06:16] before 25 [00:06:19] and [00:06:21] so the next one would be 23 again [00:06:30] so that I would make a motion to appoint [00:06:32] Ned Kelly the Council on Aging or [00:06:35] Hardwick [00:06:36] with the term ending June 30th 2023. [00:06:40] perfect [00:06:43] so it was moved by Kelly seconded by Rob [00:06:46] any other discussion [00:06:50] I'll call the rolls uh Julius yes Kelly [00:06:53] yes Rob [00:06:56] yeah [00:06:57] oh great so [00:06:59] um you'll reach out um Nicole tonight [00:07:02] and let him know the appointment and ask [00:07:03] him to go in front of the clerk to be [00:07:05] sworn in yep I'll write him a letter [00:07:08] great [00:07:11] people [00:07:12] Okay cool so tomorrow I'll get him a [00:07:16] letter and it has to be sworn in by Ryan [00:07:17] and then he can participate [00:07:19] okay so he should be able to participate [00:07:21] by next Thursday okay okay [00:07:24] you're welcome to stay [00:07:27] um we're gonna do the rest of the [00:07:28] meeting or you're and also go [00:07:31] okay okay all right [00:07:35] sure [00:07:40] so the next item on the agenda visitors [00:07:42] comments is there anyone who has a [00:07:45] comment um about something that is not [00:07:47] going to be addressed on this address on [00:07:49] the agenda tonight [00:07:54] if you do can you unmute yourself [00:08:02] Nicole do you see anyone who wants to [00:08:04] mention anything visitors come no I [00:08:06] don't see any hands up okay [00:08:10] um under old business uh Board of Health [00:08:12] meeting relative to the loss of [00:08:14] Leicester Boh agreements and impacts [00:08:20] I think we lost Nicole for a moment [00:08:23] sorry [00:08:23] I'm back [00:08:26] um so we're on the board of health [00:08:28] meeting relative to loss of illustrial [00:08:30] Boh agreements and impacts [00:08:34] um I reached out to Stan [00:08:35] [Music] [00:08:37] to uh meet with me and Julie or meet [00:08:40] with the board and I didn't hear [00:08:42] anything back from him [00:08:44] um and then I [00:08:46] saw him and he said that they have [00:08:51] they have they're happy that they have [00:08:53] canceled with Lester and they hired [00:08:55] another agent that they'll use on an as [00:08:57] needed [00:09:07] so [00:09:08] um I I think [00:09:11] um you know as the board we signed that [00:09:13] agreement so I think we sort of need to [00:09:15] bring some closure to that and we've not [00:09:17] discussed it I I understand that you [00:09:20] know he's they're going their own course [00:09:22] but we really I mean the board signed [00:09:25] that agreement and I think um at least [00:09:28] for me I sort of feel like it's a bit of [00:09:30] a loss losing [00:09:32] cluster and their expertise [00:09:34] um [00:09:36] as well uh Kelly and Rob's thoughts on [00:09:39] that do we want to reach back out to [00:09:41] Stan and ask him to meet with the board [00:09:44] um I can reach out to Stan [00:09:46] we can let it go what what's your what's [00:09:50] your thoughts [00:09:52] honestly my thoughts are we've asked [00:09:55] them to meet more than once more than [00:09:57] twice uh I don't think that they're [00:09:59] interested in meeting [00:10:01] and I I do agree with you that I think [00:10:04] it's a loss that [00:10:06] um that we don't have a collaboration of [00:10:09] the board of our Board of Health with [00:10:10] Lester [00:10:12] um I think you know that that could have [00:10:13] been a good thing [00:10:15] but um [00:10:18] I don't know as if we're going to get [00:10:20] that meeting to happen [00:10:22] and that's unfortunate [00:10:27] I may be on a board level we write [00:10:29] Lester you know a letter [00:10:32] stating just that [00:10:37] I'd like to have you spoken to [00:10:40] um I know when the the um [00:10:44] in their letter to us terminating the [00:10:46] agreement [00:10:47] um which terminated January 31st [00:10:49] practical yeah said if there were some [00:10:53] change in circumstances that they'd be [00:10:56] willing can we confirm that that's the [00:10:58] case [00:11:00] um and and the other question I have is [00:11:02] how are how is the Board of Health [00:11:04] paying this person out of what what [00:11:07] funds do they have so we do have they [00:11:11] have a line item that we [00:11:12] per salary that [00:11:15] um because we had this agreement so last [00:11:17] year it was like 13 000 and we cut it [00:11:19] down to [00:11:21] six or seven [00:11:22] um just to have in there to not let it [00:11:24] go completely away but [00:11:27] um [00:11:28] you know possibly [00:11:30] uh just for some extra support for you [00:11:33] know a [00:11:34] maybe something that Lester might need [00:11:36] down the road [00:11:38] there we'll keep it in there um [00:11:40] so are there behavior from that we [00:11:42] weren't supposed to keep it funded also [00:11:45] foreign [00:11:53] [Applause] [00:12:00] agent [00:12:02] [Music] [00:12:04] okay [00:12:10] um [00:12:11] we're gonna have to realize that we have [00:12:13] to completely fund that line item for [00:12:16] the upcoming yeah [00:12:21] I want us to continue to use the person [00:12:23] on the contract basis like they are now [00:12:28] uh you know [00:12:30] um [00:12:31] is there any impact to us a nickel of [00:12:35] um from a grant perspective and [00:12:36] availability for other grants that that [00:12:39] this is sort of I just want to are there [00:12:41] any other ramifications we have by [00:12:43] Lester terminating on us is this gonna I [00:12:46] guess reflect badly on us anywhere else [00:12:49] I don't know that it's necessarily going [00:12:52] to hurt us but it's not going to help us [00:12:54] when Grant when Lester writes the grants [00:12:57] um you know and they were looking to do [00:13:01] a few like even [00:13:04] opioid money we don't have a lot but you [00:13:06] know they're looking to pull it possibly [00:13:08] get another staff member [00:13:10] um other other grants to help all the [00:13:12] towns that you know we're not going to [00:13:14] be involved in anymore and there's no [00:13:16] staff in here in town [00:13:19] here you know [00:13:26] but Lester has has [00:13:29] said to me personally that if the chair [00:13:32] changes then they are very much willing [00:13:35] to come back to the table [00:13:40] okay well [00:13:42] um [00:13:43] [Music] [00:13:45] let's sort of leave this on [00:13:47] um let's sort of leave this [00:13:49] um [00:13:51] I don't know I have to sort of think [00:13:52] about it I you know the bigger issue is [00:13:55] we don't have a working relationship [00:13:56] with our Board of Health which is a [00:13:58] problem [00:13:59] um we've asked to meet several times and [00:14:03] um it's not happening so that that's [00:14:06] concerning to me [00:14:08] um that there's some you know there's a [00:14:10] breakdown in [00:14:11] uh communication between [00:14:14] like you as well with the board [00:14:17] um which is you know we all have to work [00:14:19] together so [00:14:21] um I will reach out to Stan myself and [00:14:24] see if we can [00:14:25] um we can meet [00:14:28] um again I think it's important do they [00:14:30] participate in your department report uh [00:14:32] department meetings Nicole [00:14:34] Moody was at our last one my last one [00:14:37] okay [00:14:38] all right so I guess we'll let that sit [00:14:41] for now and with a further follow-up at [00:14:45] some point are you okay with that [00:14:47] killing Rob yeah [00:14:49] I don't think we have much of a choice I [00:14:51] mean [00:14:52] we can't we can't force it [00:14:56] okay I would agree and [00:15:01] um it is an elected position so [00:15:04] possible that someone could run to that [00:15:06] position too [00:15:08] but should change that board [00:15:10] that board has not been very [00:15:13] I had quite a few complaints [00:15:15] kind of by the same people [00:15:18] but I don't we haven't been able to [00:15:20] discuss that either with [00:15:22] the board so [00:15:25] I don't know what the solution is they [00:15:27] obviously don't have to answer to us [00:15:29] they're elected [00:15:30] but it would be nice [00:15:33] and [00:15:34] a good thing [00:15:41] I agree with that also [00:15:43] all right let me try again and see if we [00:15:45] can get the dialogue going [00:15:47] um [00:15:50] uh next item is The Condemned structures [00:15:52] on Church Street and [00:15:55] um Nicole could you want to give us an [00:15:56] update on that [00:15:58] so I am aware that texts had gone [00:16:02] through extensive [00:16:05] um work to you know try to get them into [00:16:09] compliance text meaning the board of [00:16:11] former Board of Health agent [00:16:14] um there are a very large file on one of [00:16:17] the parcels in the Board of Health [00:16:18] office there's a smaller file also in [00:16:21] the Board of Health office to which I [00:16:23] Board of Health to give me an update on [00:16:26] on what it is everything most of it says [00:16:28] confidential [00:16:30] I saw a few things [00:16:32] um that you know it put the Board of [00:16:34] Health [00:16:36] buying through the town of Harvard [00:16:38] against the parcel owner [00:16:40] there was a receivership there was the [00:16:43] receivership go to the Board of Health [00:16:45] what happens after that I don't know any [00:16:48] of this [00:16:49] so [00:16:51] Stan is under the impression who I spoke [00:16:53] with earlier [00:16:55] um that if there's no inhabitants in [00:16:57] there then it does not sit in the [00:16:59] jurisdiction of the Board of Health I [00:17:02] simply said I was at I know you have [00:17:04] extensive files I just wanted an update [00:17:06] because if we have to go through the [00:17:08] legal system to either acquire condemn [00:17:12] remove whatever we have to do I I'd like [00:17:16] to not have to do the work twice I'd [00:17:17] like to not have to pay attorneys if [00:17:19] we've already paid them to do certain [00:17:21] steps [00:17:22] to take be able to to authority to just [00:17:25] go [00:17:26] to just go whatever take them down [00:17:27] condemn them [00:17:28] lean it whatever we have to do [00:17:33] he's under the impression that since [00:17:34] nobody lives there nobody wants to live [00:17:36] there that it's not his jurisdiction [00:17:38] that it belongs to the to the building [00:17:39] inspector and it's his job to go in [00:17:43] and see that it's up to code and if it [00:17:45] isn't [00:17:46] to condemn it I don't disagree with him [00:17:48] I was just [00:17:50] trying to get you know so those [00:17:53] buildings both have huge red x's on them [00:17:56] the prior building inspector I believe [00:17:59] condemned them already Nicole [00:18:02] Nicole so I'm going to talk to bill [00:18:03] tomorrow who again is [00:18:06] very part-time for us we don't you know [00:18:08] our contract basically says he'll do our [00:18:10] inspections [00:18:11] this is a little bit above and beyond [00:18:12] but I'm [00:18:16] going to work for us [00:18:18] and try to you [00:18:20] help us along here [00:18:22] um the chapter 143 process which is [00:18:24] condemning it through the through the [00:18:26] building department [00:18:28] um the the most unfortunate part is that [00:18:31] all the files are just somewhere because [00:18:34] there I don't know if there was really [00:18:37] good record keeping or if it's somewhere [00:18:40] that bill doesn't know because he wasn't [00:18:41] here before [00:18:43] um also there's a lot of things in the [00:18:45] Pod there's things up against walls so [00:18:47] nobody can get [00:18:49] it's really been [00:18:51] such a struggle not having the town hall [00:18:53] put together [00:18:54] um but I I will I'll work with him [00:18:56] tomorrow the all I can say is that the [00:18:59] Board of Health has [00:19:01] washed their hands of it so we're not [00:19:03] going to get any help from them so I'm [00:19:05] good [00:19:07] Go a different Avenue [00:19:09] and just try to seek it through the [00:19:11] through the building department [00:19:13] um [00:19:14] and yeah they were the Board of Health [00:19:17] was at my meeting Judy [00:19:20] um that I had for the department head [00:19:22] meeting last week [00:19:24] um but [00:19:25] today Stan told me about a class II [00:19:29] license [00:19:30] pillar that is in the west part of town [00:19:32] that has several code violations and I [00:19:34] did not get that update from Judy so I [00:19:37] don't know um [00:19:38] if they're not ready yet or what but [00:19:40] they they they're doing some work I mean [00:19:42] so I don't know if you didn't know or [00:19:44] what but uh Stan did say that they you [00:19:47] know so I know they're doing something [00:19:49] I did go out and do an inspection on a [00:19:51] business so [00:19:53] um [00:19:54] just wanted to follow up with I don't [00:19:56] know exactly what their role is and what [00:19:59] they're doing [00:20:00] on a daily but I'm [00:20:01] [Music] [00:20:03] so it sounds like we need to figure out [00:20:05] really where this is in the process I I [00:20:08] remember too Kelly because I know that [00:20:10] was under when you were [00:20:12] your chair [00:20:14] um [00:20:15] that the buildings were condemned and I [00:20:18] think because there was an absentee [00:20:19] landlord [00:20:22] um we had to reach out to the landlord [00:20:24] and I think there was a procedure [00:20:27] um [00:20:28] for the town taking it [00:20:31] um [00:20:33] so [00:20:36] guess Nicole it sounds like you're on [00:20:38] the right track going to the building [00:20:39] inspector if it's not his jurisdiction [00:20:41] we need some direction from either Town [00:20:44] Council or whoever [00:20:46] if it's abort determined to be a Board [00:20:48] of Health jurisdiction then [00:20:50] we've got to have the Board of Health [00:20:53] you know I think once we figure out [00:20:55] where it is in the process and what the [00:20:56] jurisdiction is then we'll have to move [00:20:58] forward but it sounds like this has got [00:21:00] to continue to stay on our radar as we [00:21:03] get more information [00:21:09] Kelly or Rob anything else on this [00:21:13] not that's about all I know on it [00:21:16] okay I just remembered I do remember [00:21:20] text talking to us about it and [00:21:23] basically they are condemned through the [00:21:26] building inspector [00:21:28] but the talent has to foot the cost to [00:21:30] take them down and that's that's really [00:21:33] where it was at was [00:21:35] how we were going to deal with either [00:21:37] taking them down and get rid of them [00:21:39] but I mean if there should be something [00:21:41] either with the building inspector or [00:21:44] the Board of Health that has already [00:21:47] done most of the legwork [00:21:50] but [00:21:52] I do remember [00:21:54] a lot of this was already taken care of [00:21:56] already it was I remember I remember [00:21:58] hearing Brianna and police went there [00:22:02] and condemned the buildings [00:22:06] start over I don't want to pay the [00:22:08] thousands of dollars to start over if [00:22:10] we've already done it can we reach out [00:22:12] to Brianna and ask her what her [00:22:13] recollection is that we were maybe we [00:22:15] can start and see if she recalls [00:22:17] yeah where the process was [00:22:20] at least we can start there and if it [00:22:22] was [00:22:23] based on a recollection I mean it was a [00:22:25] period of time ago so [00:22:28] I can't remember what I had for lunch [00:22:29] yesterday so if she doesn't don't [00:22:31] remember we can't uh well then there's a [00:22:34] big file on 18 to 20 and there it's KP [00:22:36] law took them to court [00:22:39] you know said the receiver shall do this [00:22:41] the receiver shall do that [00:22:44] um I don't think it explicitly [00:22:45] explicitly says the board of I didn't [00:22:48] get to read it because it was [00:22:50] um Stan was just holding it [00:22:52] um but I do believe that [00:22:55] the sentence tells you that [00:22:56] the Board of Health was taking them to [00:22:58] court then the Board of Health was [00:22:59] becoming a receiver [00:23:01] so [00:23:02] with all that's been done then we can [00:23:05] just take them down and the building [00:23:07] inspector through that one chapter 143 [00:23:09] process [00:23:10] um has the authority to shut down roads [00:23:12] to shut down town roads state roads shut [00:23:14] it down if you have to [00:23:16] have to I don't know how much it costs I [00:23:18] don't know [00:23:19] I don't know anything about that but I [00:23:22] know there's a process for us to be able [00:23:24] to do it Bill Cole's raising his hand [00:23:26] but yeah just just a thought so why are [00:23:28] we not able to see that file [00:23:32] um it says confidential so he was just [00:23:35] if the town has paid for KP law to [00:23:38] provide services that is public [00:23:40] information for baby confidential I [00:23:44] would press him to look at that file so [00:23:46] Julie Judy Judy gave me [00:23:49] to the file cabinets [00:23:51] so tomorrow I can go in and pull the [00:23:55] file out because I need to contact KP [00:23:57] law I need to see if this attorney is [00:23:59] even working for kplan anymore but I'm [00:24:01] sure [00:24:03] Hardwick folder you know in KP law and [00:24:06] and then they have their addresses I I [00:24:08] would imagine so they probably have all [00:24:10] the documentation right but let's do a [00:24:13] little bit more work and if um I need to [00:24:16] see what we can find and then [00:24:18] you know you're on the right track we're [00:24:20] going to KP lock and maybe I don't know [00:24:22] if we can also just tap into Brianna to [00:24:24] see if she has any recollection of where [00:24:26] it was in the process [00:24:28] Bill did you have a question or comment [00:24:31] thanks I uh I do recall text talking [00:24:33] about this um [00:24:37] um but I don't what I don't recall is [00:24:39] all the same [00:24:41] properties [00:24:42] are [00:24:44] I think they're different owners but I [00:24:45] wanted to ask that and are they in [00:24:47] arrears for taxes as well [00:24:52] yes and yes two separate owners very [00:24:55] much interest [00:24:58] okay so one way or another I guess one [00:25:00] option [00:25:01] to figure out how to do it is to take [00:25:03] the properties and auction them off or [00:25:05] sell them or something [00:25:07] or demolish them which is expensive [00:25:11] okay [00:25:14] it would be nice to see something [00:25:16] something better there for sure [00:25:22] anything else on that [00:25:27] no [00:25:31] okay so you'll keep us updated on that [00:25:33] Nicole yep [00:25:37] all right I just stepped away to get a [00:25:39] tissue [00:25:40] sorry [00:25:43] um okay so [00:25:45] um [00:25:48] next item on the agenda is the police [00:25:49] storage container [00:25:52] we have um we um the chief had talked to [00:25:56] us about this prior and we had asked [00:25:59] them to get um free quotes this these [00:26:02] are the containers for evidence since I [00:26:06] believe [00:26:07] um since the [00:26:09] um [00:26:10] part of the evidence is stored in the [00:26:12] town hall and [00:26:13] um there's some concerns I think with [00:26:16] uh water damage and such Nicole am I [00:26:19] right in that [00:26:20] yeah and then accessibility [00:26:24] um they've got evidence in multiple [00:26:25] locations [00:26:26] um so we have [00:26:29] um [00:26:30] we have a memo from the chief in your [00:26:32] packet about three [00:26:34] um quotes for the a 20-foot container [00:26:37] do we know um do we recall where they [00:26:39] were going to put this or are they gonna [00:26:40] put this on Lower Road [00:26:42] on Lower Road yeah okay [00:26:45] okay [00:26:47] Colleen Rob did you guys have a chance [00:26:49] to look at the quotes I did [00:26:51] I think the recommendation was [00:26:54] um [00:26:55] with the three quotes was the island [00:26:57] Industries because they're local correct [00:27:01] and they're relatively [00:27:03] all in line cost wise so right [00:27:08] and I'm presuming this would come out of [00:27:10] arpa money [00:27:11] right yeah that's what we had talked [00:27:13] about initially yeah [00:27:16] I'm I'm okay with this I don't have [00:27:18] anything [00:27:22] on this rub [00:27:25] no I'm good [00:27:28] okay do we already give them do we [00:27:32] already support this and no [00:27:35] we asked questions all right [00:27:38] yeah [00:27:39] I think we talked about [00:27:41] you know acknowledging the need for it [00:27:43] but that we wanted three quotes and I [00:27:45] think this is where we're so I think we [00:27:47] were informally preferably and [00:27:49] supportive at asking for additional [00:27:50] quotes just to be sure we're covering [00:27:53] um [00:27:56] I don't have a problem with it either [00:27:57] can we make a note for the next agenda [00:28:00] Nicole to talk about give an update of [00:28:02] where what we've spent [00:28:04] yes I actually just asked that from um [00:28:07] Lori today and I'm just getting the [00:28:09] emails now so [00:28:12] that'd be great [00:28:14] um [00:28:15] yeah yeah I love emotion thank you [00:28:20] um I would make a motion to [00:28:23] um use Opera funds for 24 computer for [00:28:27] the police department [00:28:28] uh for a total amount of 5 330 from [00:28:33] Island Industries out of Brookfield Mass [00:28:36] out of [00:28:40] um [00:28:41] okay sorry I missed that sorry Rob I [00:28:44] thought I started with that sorry okay I [00:28:47] cut out a little bit so I didn't hear [00:28:48] that part [00:28:50] I'll second that thank you sorry to cut [00:28:53] you off Rob [00:28:54] um so emotion was made by Kelly and [00:28:57] seconded by Rob any other discussion and [00:29:00] the motion is to purchase the storage [00:29:02] container 20-foot storage container from [00:29:04] Island Industries [00:29:05] for five thousand three hundred thirty [00:29:08] dollars out of arpa money [00:29:10] um so I'll call her old Julia's yes [00:29:13] Kelly [00:29:14] yes Rob [00:29:16] yes okay so motion carries [00:29:19] thank you [00:29:24] um other old business is there anything [00:29:25] else anything that we need to talk about [00:29:28] under other old business [00:29:32] I don't know if it's old but [00:29:36] the three new connections [00:29:40] well that probably would be under new [00:29:43] business and we could take that under [00:29:46] um [00:29:46] Nicole [00:29:48] um message to each one of us a little [00:29:51] bit ago [00:29:52] um for new [00:29:54] um [00:29:55] these are new [00:30:01] sewer [00:30:02] so do we want to take this [00:30:04] this [00:30:05] um when we're talking about the [00:30:08] um the sewer the project change order [00:30:09] just take this under that item since [00:30:11] it's sewer business do we want to [00:30:13] address it now under new business [00:30:17] either way is fine okay are are we [00:30:21] comfortable with voting on this you you [00:30:23] all received it just a little bit before [00:30:25] the meeting for the three new [00:30:26] connections right that we have to fill [00:30:28] them out yes yes [00:30:32] so the total um is [00:30:35] 1756.59 is that correct Nicole that's [00:30:38] correct [00:30:40] um for the three connections yep yep I [00:30:44] am [00:30:45] this should have been in your packet but [00:30:46] Angie was out all week sick last week [00:30:48] and I didn't see it [00:30:50] she's already done the bills due dates [00:30:53] and the dates [00:30:56] but these bills will then go out again [00:31:00] we do in May [00:31:02] so I think we probably want to vote on [00:31:04] the full commitment [00:31:06] no [00:31:09] I'll have [00:31:10] I will have another commitment again in [00:31:12] April [00:31:14] okay [00:31:16] we voted on the six-month commitment I [00:31:18] think [00:31:19] okay [00:31:20] I think is that right and then we'll [00:31:22] have to vote I think we have to vote on [00:31:24] them every time [00:31:25] yep okay we used to yeah okay [00:31:28] you do it once a year because if you do [00:31:30] it once that's fine too yeah [00:31:34] but okay keep it consistent when we only [00:31:37] did the six months initially then that's [00:31:39] fine [00:31:40] I think we did but maybe we can just [00:31:43] check on that [00:31:44] um so this is to catch them up for the [00:31:46] First Billing yeah [00:31:50] um [00:31:52] Robert are you okay with voting on this [00:31:54] at this point [00:31:55] yeah [00:31:56] okay [00:31:57] so we had three [00:31:59] um [00:32:00] they were three [00:32:03] um sewer bills total amount of [00:32:06] 1756.59 or these are new connections [00:32:12] that is my understanding they're either [00:32:14] new connections or they yes they are [00:32:17] yeah okay great [00:32:19] okay [00:32:21] is there a motion to [00:32:23] um accept [00:32:25] um [00:32:26] so I would I would make a motion to [00:32:28] approve the sewer commitment for the [00:32:30] three additional hookups in the amount [00:32:32] of [00:32:35] 1756.59 for the first [00:32:38] um [00:32:39] for the first bills [00:32:44] moved by Kelly seconded by Rob any other [00:32:46] discussion [00:32:49] hearing none I'll call the rule Julie is [00:32:51] a yes Kelly [00:32:53] yes robbed [00:32:56] yeah okay great motion carries thanks [00:32:59] Nicole [00:33:00] thank you [00:33:02] um [00:33:04] anything else that we want to address [00:33:07] under old business [00:33:12] okay [00:33:13] under new business [00:33:14] um the Q drug permission to place purple [00:33:16] ribbons around town for substance [00:33:18] awareness [00:33:19] uh next weekend or two weekends or no [00:33:22] that's next week and it's next weekend [00:33:24] um and then remove them March 12th we [00:33:27] all have an email in our I think in our [00:33:29] packet I think we've allowed this every [00:33:32] year [00:33:33] we have [00:33:36] I don't have an issue with it [00:33:38] I don't neither [00:33:43] I'm good with it [00:33:50] I'm just wondering I mean we see we have [00:33:53] the ribbons up but do we do enough I [00:33:56] mean [00:33:57] do we do enough as a town to promote it [00:33:59] I don't I don't know if I know Q drug [00:34:02] does a bunch but is there something we [00:34:03] should be doing [00:34:06] we could put something maybe on our [00:34:08] Facebook page in in the website to just [00:34:11] make people aware why that why they're [00:34:13] up [00:34:14] I probably wouldn't be a bad bad idea [00:34:17] okay [00:34:18] and then maybe [00:34:20] um link to two drops [00:34:22] a link to Q drug so if they want to [00:34:25] somehow participate or I'm sure two drug [00:34:28] is always looking for volunteers or [00:34:29] maybe some financial support or [00:34:31] something [00:34:34] that's a good idea [00:34:37] Robbie okay with that [00:34:41] oh absolutely [00:34:43] okay [00:34:44] um it looks like in the email it says at [00:34:46] Eagle Hills doing their celebration the [00:34:48] following week do we know what that is [00:34:49] Nicole I do not know [00:34:53] they have no idea [00:34:55] he's sort of interesting Eric Cummings [00:34:56] on here [00:35:03] I am not sure [00:35:06] is that something you could find out [00:35:07] with Eric because maybe if it's [00:35:09] something [00:35:11] um you know I don't know what the [00:35:13] celebration is but if somehow we can [00:35:14] participate or if someone wants to [00:35:17] participate we can [00:35:18] sure I'll find out tomorrow okay thank [00:35:22] you [00:35:25] anything else on q-drug so you'll let [00:35:27] them know Nicole yeah great [00:35:35] um [00:35:37] hydrogen abatements that is in your [00:35:40] package also so if you remember [00:35:43] um [00:35:44] when our former Town Bill did you have a [00:35:48] question relative to Q drug [00:35:57] Bill had his hand up I don't know if [00:35:59] that was from before are you are you [00:36:01] accept ability of a question or a [00:36:02] comment [00:36:04] not on that subject I had something [00:36:06] about the website I wanted to ask but [00:36:08] I'll wait until you think it's time [00:36:10] yeah we are going to talk about the [00:36:12] website so we can get to that at some [00:36:14] point when we're there [00:36:18] um Hydro abatements so if you remember [00:36:21] when our former Town Administrator left [00:36:24] um we realized we weren't billing for [00:36:26] hydrants and [00:36:28] um we sent bills out the hydrants in the [00:36:30] tune of eight thousand fifty dollars [00:36:32] and they've been sitting out there I [00:36:35] think probably for two years and [00:36:38] um it never got [00:36:40] um given to the tax collector to do what [00:36:44] she needed to do to follow up on these [00:36:46] bills so [00:36:48] um I think it's with the recommendation [00:36:49] of the Town account that we get rid of [00:36:51] these there's been no contact no one's [00:36:54] made attempts to pay [00:37:00] I'm not sure we know the right people to [00:37:01] even reach out to relative to this [00:37:04] um I did mention to Nicole that [00:37:07] um [00:37:08] we probably should do a little research [00:37:10] on the hydrant maintenance and I think [00:37:13] we did some research and found that it [00:37:14] hadn't been built for many many years I [00:37:17] don't know how many years it was I [00:37:18] thought it was like three or four [00:37:20] but Nicole thought maybe it was like 10 [00:37:23] do you remember Kelly Rob I think it was [00:37:26] more than three or four I'm not sure it [00:37:28] was ten [00:37:29] and I think [00:37:31] um [00:37:32] also uh Ray might know Refinery Chief [00:37:35] may know a little bit more and um [00:37:40] you know [00:37:44] um yeah [00:37:48] I think maybe maybe Rob knows more but I [00:37:50] think that the purpose of billing them [00:37:53] um has n't been fulfilled you know that [00:37:56] we were billing them because they were [00:37:58] going [00:37:58] to we were maintaining them [00:38:05] I think that's what the chief had said [00:38:08] I just vaguely remember something when I [00:38:10] first started [00:38:15] yeah they have them I mean Bob [00:38:19] Goodfield was Chief the last time I [00:38:21] remember us really dealing with this [00:38:25] and now I say back then [00:38:27] they may not have been paying them [00:38:28] regularly either [00:38:31] maybe one person was paying them and the [00:38:33] rest weren't yeah we got my shoes but [00:38:40] foreign [00:38:42] if we're not going to collect these but [00:38:45] I don't have a problem with getting rid [00:38:46] of them we don't have a mechanism to [00:38:48] collect them because they've not been [00:38:51] assigned to the tax collector so [00:38:54] um I don't have an issue with um evading [00:38:56] them off I I think we should look into [00:38:58] whether we should be billing [00:39:01] um going forward and maybe we can just [00:39:03] sort of keep that [00:39:05] um maybe with Ray you can just figure [00:39:07] out what should be billed and for what [00:39:09] reason it's built just so it doesn't [00:39:11] fall off the radar [00:39:13] I would agree with that [00:39:16] okay [00:39:18] um so is there a motion to [00:39:20] um [00:39:22] Abate the [00:39:24] um hydrant do you know when those were [00:39:27] sent out Nicole like how old these are [00:39:30] I don't before I started [00:39:32] like two years I think you're right it's [00:39:34] around two years [00:39:37] right and that so that that just keeps [00:39:39] hurting us it says schedule of [00:39:41] outstanding receivables fiscal year [00:39:42] 2022. can I just referenced that [00:39:46] yeah thanks listen [00:39:48] um I would pick him up that we Abate the [00:39:51] outstanding hydrant maintenance bills in [00:39:54] the amount of eight thousand fifty [00:39:56] dollars as listed on the schedule of [00:39:58] outstanding receivables fiscal year [00:40:00] 2022. [00:40:05] moved by Kelly second and by Rob any [00:40:07] other discussion [00:40:10] hearing on I'll call the rule Julie is a [00:40:13] yes Kelly yes Rob [00:40:16] yes [00:40:18] great most berries [00:40:21] um we've already addressed the [00:40:22] appointments and procedure Ned Kelly for [00:40:24] COA is there anything else under this [00:40:26] that we need to address the call under [00:40:28] appointments and procedures [00:40:30] I just wanted to bring to your attention [00:40:32] that um the Council on Aging [00:40:35] isn't exactly aware of how the [00:40:38] procedures should go when they are [00:40:41] um [00:40:42] when they are nominating somebody that [00:40:44] it comes to the board of Selectmen and [00:40:45] it just doesn't it's not just within [00:40:47] their little you know their board to [00:40:50] authorize these these appointments so [00:40:52] I've tried to educate them on that [00:40:57] um we're gonna go over more policies and [00:41:00] procedures and [00:41:03] I also was thinking [00:41:05] in in the midst of all of these boards [00:41:08] and committees [00:41:09] first [00:41:10] I was at the where Community Development [00:41:14] meeting last Monday night to go over uh [00:41:18] Community develop block grant cdbg [00:41:22] that where is applying for with Hardwick [00:41:24] their Elite community and there are a [00:41:26] lot of Social Services [00:41:28] that come along with [00:41:31] this Grant and I was thinking that it's [00:41:36] possible it's probable that the master [00:41:38] plan and the Community Development [00:41:41] portion of gov committees should [00:41:44] probably [00:41:44] split it you know and and I can tell you [00:41:47] about the master plan too but it's [00:41:49] master plan slash Community Development [00:41:51] Committee and I think that I [00:41:54] coming year there will be more work to [00:41:57] do for Community Development there's [00:41:59] hundreds of thousands of dollars coming [00:42:01] for the social [00:42:03] or you know [00:42:05] actual Community Development [00:42:07] um so I think that there should be a [00:42:09] Community Development committee if not [00:42:11] the same I mean it can be the same if [00:42:13] the same people are on it I [00:42:15] would be recognized um as a more working [00:42:18] board [00:42:19] and um for the master plan [00:42:22] committee [00:42:24] chairman of planning board came in and [00:42:26] said you know they were working on the [00:42:28] master plan they were working on you [00:42:30] know the whole kitten caboodle and to [00:42:33] just leave it with them and when they [00:42:34] have formal appointments and and when [00:42:36] they have moved forward they'll bring [00:42:38] them forth to the board of Selectmen for [00:42:42] approval so they just kind of said you [00:42:45] know don't worry about the master plan [00:42:46] right now we've got we'll we'll handle [00:42:47] it [00:42:48] on our end [00:42:49] point and then [00:42:51] the board of Selectmen when [00:42:53] for the formal appointment [00:42:56] and then I also am thinking that we [00:42:58] could probably use a building committee [00:43:04] so we have we had a building Committee [00:43:07] in place that needs to be resurrected I [00:43:09] think [00:43:10] I'm not sure I don't recall if we [00:43:12] appointed the building committee and [00:43:14] June when we did our appointments [00:43:17] um [00:43:19] because it hasn't been um [00:43:23] so [00:43:24] um [00:43:26] let's take the master plan slash cdbg so [00:43:31] um we still need to do some work on them [00:43:33] I think well so let's talk about the [00:43:35] master plan [00:43:36] committee so [00:43:38] um can you give us an update on that [00:43:40] Nicole on where that stands [00:43:43] yeah so [00:43:45] um their [00:43:47] there's there's a bunch of Interest [00:43:49] right to of residents to come on to some [00:43:53] boards and the master plan [00:43:55] implementation committee was originally [00:43:58] the one requested however our master [00:44:02] plan itself is outdated and needs [00:44:06] you know it needs to be updated so we've [00:44:09] had a meeting with cmrpc who is going to [00:44:11] do a little bit of research it's very [00:44:12] very expensive to get this master plan [00:44:14] updated but it needs to be done supposed [00:44:16] to be done every 10 years believe me [00:44:18] towns don't do it every time [00:44:19] every time it's not like it's [00:44:20] like it's you know Hardwick is doing [00:44:22] something that everybody else isn't [00:44:23] isn't um but [00:44:26] so before the so that's what we were [00:44:28] talking I was talking about with the [00:44:29] planning board chairman was that before [00:44:31] an implementation committee is formed [00:44:34] that a plan needs to be in [00:44:37] it's not the case right now [00:44:38] so he said just you know again he's [00:44:41] going to we I had a meeting I was [00:44:44] game RPC [00:44:45] um but so they're going to look at other [00:44:47] opportunities for us to be able to um [00:44:50] you know get some sort of Grant to be [00:44:51] able to update it [00:44:53] and then the implementation committee [00:44:56] will come into play [00:44:57] so at this moment it's just sort of back [00:45:01] to the planning board if anybody has any [00:45:03] questions about the master plan or about [00:45:05] the committee [00:45:07] uh getting involved in it then they're [00:45:10] requested to reach out to the bidding [00:45:12] board [00:45:13] as they the planning board in towns are [00:45:16] typically the [00:45:18] end of getting either amount [00:45:21] [Music] [00:45:27] so essentially it's just [00:45:29] planning board wants it back in their [00:45:33] in there like this is the but and I [00:45:34] asked because planning master plan slash [00:45:37] Community Development Committee you know [00:45:39] I said they're not really one in the [00:45:41] same there really should be a master [00:45:42] plan committee [00:45:45] [Music] [00:45:47] um working [00:45:48] all the time like Community Development [00:45:50] will work constantly where master plan [00:45:52] you know once it's done then you have [00:45:53] the implementation committee but that [00:45:55] that more sporadic where Community [00:45:57] Development done [00:45:59] frequently and especially like I said [00:46:02] this grant coming in for in prayer the [00:46:04] only way that Hardwick is really going [00:46:06] to be able to benefit from it is if we [00:46:08] have some people helping work on it and [00:46:11] re and having that Outreach [00:46:13] um so [00:46:14] I feel like you know not where we'll [00:46:17] keep it but if we don't [00:46:19] negatively participate then we may miss [00:46:21] out [00:46:23] so I thought [00:46:25] maybe that plan should [00:46:29] so I don't know about the master plan [00:46:30] it's back to the planning board wants it [00:46:32] back [00:46:33] you know starting an initially meeting [00:46:35] with with the agencies to help update it [00:46:43] well I interrupt dots on that [00:46:49] yeah I don't have a problem [00:46:51] um as long as it keeps moving forward I [00:46:53] guess you know it has sat very [00:46:57] um [00:46:58] stagnant for years [00:47:00] and now that there's interest now [00:47:03] um [00:47:05] so I just hope that they move forward [00:47:09] and keep digging into to you know update [00:47:11] the plan [00:47:19] um [00:47:20] really sounds like a planning board [00:47:22] issue if that's where it's supposed to [00:47:25] be so [00:47:26] they're ready to bring it back to the [00:47:28] town it's really up to the planning [00:47:30] board [00:47:33] right because I think we we determined [00:47:34] last time that the planning board was [00:47:36] responsible for [00:47:38] the the committee really came out of [00:47:42] the suggestion of or the direction of [00:47:44] the planning board [00:47:46] to the board of Select them so [00:47:48] um [00:47:52] all right so um bill I see your hand up [00:47:54] Bill did you have something [00:47:57] yes thanks um a couple things one I just [00:48:00] noticed the uh the info we were all kind [00:48:03] of looking for before I think about [00:48:04] appointments and terms is is on the main [00:48:07] page but now called [00:48:09] Town appointments I believe [00:48:12] and just looking back for a second you [00:48:13] asked about Council on Aging and I think [00:48:16] the two vacant terms are shown there are [00:48:18] 23 and a 24. [00:48:20] I I overlooked that too because the [00:48:21] title got changed I guess but I think [00:48:23] that's some of the info [00:48:25] we're looking at and also [00:48:27] um it talks about [00:48:28] right the master plan and Community [00:48:30] Development Advisory Group and [00:48:33] you're right of course at the master [00:48:34] plan implement [00:48:38] by [00:48:39] um planning board you [00:48:41] you're never populated with people [00:48:45] and that isn't where the work was done [00:48:47] before so maybe that isn't the place to [00:48:49] be doing anything now [00:48:51] um [00:48:52] I certainly hear what you're saying [00:48:54] Nicole about different committees [00:48:56] maybe with a specific Focus you know [00:48:59] about [00:49:01] Community Development and such and maybe [00:49:03] the town [00:49:04] buildings committee needs to be [00:49:08] reactivated or re-energized or something [00:49:10] as well [00:49:11] but I do think and I can't speak for [00:49:14] many here but I do think there's a lot [00:49:15] of interest in figuring out somehow [00:49:18] together where the right places are for [00:49:21] new new energy and new uh you know you [00:49:24] know work to be done to make some of the [00:49:26] good things happen that we want to see [00:49:28] and I I don't know personally whether [00:49:32] revisiting the master plan and updating [00:49:35] it is a sense [00:49:37] for that I mean it's a process that of [00:49:41] course you know clementeim and Don [00:49:43] Samick and many others including me to [00:49:45] some degree were involved in years ago [00:49:47] and it never [00:49:48] it never really became a springboard for [00:49:52] doing a whole lot [00:49:54] so [00:49:56] one way or another I hope I hope that we [00:49:58] figure out how to how to get the right [00:50:00] committees in power to get some of these [00:50:03] things done including [00:50:05] getting all the grants we might be able [00:50:06] to and raising funds outside of [00:50:09] you know the town you know in order to [00:50:10] get some things done and [00:50:13] um all of that so I I don't I I guess my [00:50:17] thought on that is just that [00:50:19] revisiting and updating the master plan [00:50:22] would probably be another couple year [00:50:24] project like it was when it was created [00:50:27] and [00:50:28] I would hope we don't need to [00:50:32] start to make some [00:50:38] thanks Bill [00:50:39] um Eric you had your hand up [00:50:46] yeah so [00:50:50] I think I had mentioned this before cdac [00:50:53] the Community Development advisory [00:50:54] committee was was [00:50:57] an offspring of the MP the master plan [00:51:00] implementation committee [00:51:02] um [00:51:03] primarily to go after these grants that [00:51:06] you had mentioned like getting from [00:51:08] where [00:51:09] and so that's it morphed into that there [00:51:12] really was a fair amount of work done at [00:51:15] the master plan application committee [00:51:17] level which [00:51:20] kind of [00:51:21] involved the update to the 20 or the [00:51:24] 2000 master plan [00:51:28] um there's a draft of that on the on the [00:51:31] um [00:51:32] the master plan link on the town's [00:51:35] website the unfortunately when Julie [00:51:39] um Marquette put that on [00:51:42] there was a humongous red draft Redline [00:51:45] version of that and in order for her to [00:51:47] put it on she said she just accepted all [00:51:50] the updates [00:51:52] so that [00:51:54] it gets a little complicated but that [00:51:56] update needs to be looked at [00:51:59] um [00:52:00] thoroughly because that's not [00:52:03] completely accurate but there was [00:52:05] essentially a lot of work done at that [00:52:07] point [00:52:09] but the sea deck [00:52:11] um [00:52:12] was again an offspring of that in order [00:52:15] to deal with these grants because the [00:52:16] master plan implementation committee was [00:52:19] really not set up to do that I don't [00:52:22] know when that coming [00:52:23] formed or who [00:52:25] all of us were on at that time [00:52:28] you back up to that date when that [00:52:30] committee was formed then I would just [00:52:31] go with that [00:52:34] um I [00:52:35] I would also [00:52:37] suggest that you're not bother to do the [00:52:39] building committee because that could [00:52:40] fall under the capital planning [00:52:42] committee [00:52:43] um and that committee was formed back in [00:52:45] 2011. [00:52:47] uh at town meeting [00:52:50] um to deal with the you know exactly [00:52:52] those kinds of things anything over 25 [00:52:55] Grand required [00:52:57] some input from the capital planning [00:53:00] committee [00:53:02] um [00:53:03] and [00:53:05] I you know text was text shared that [00:53:08] for a while I was on it uh Teresa was on [00:53:12] it well she was a non-voting member but [00:53:15] then there were several others but that [00:53:18] didn't go very you know they didn't last [00:53:19] very long either [00:53:21] um [00:53:22] uh just not not quite sure why but it [00:53:26] just didn't last very long but it exists [00:53:29] and I believe that that is where [00:53:33] majority of these questions about [00:53:35] buildings and expenditures and [00:53:39] um that's where the focus I believe [00:53:41] could be [00:53:43] um but again [00:53:45] just to reiterate the master plan or the [00:53:47] Community Development advisory committee [00:53:48] was really formed to deal with the [00:53:51] grants and the stuff that was coming up [00:53:52] uh where a master plan couldn't deal [00:53:54] with it I haven't talked to Eric really [00:53:56] about the master plan I know he talked [00:53:58] to Nicole about it [00:54:00] um if if you want to dump it back in the [00:54:03] planning board slab [00:54:05] that's fine [00:54:07] um I don't know you know why you need a [00:54:09] separate committee to implement it [00:54:11] not really sure of that bottom line is [00:54:14] there really isn't going to be a whole [00:54:15] lot of implementation anyway because [00:54:17] there's no money [00:54:18] so [00:54:20] um [00:54:22] simplify things if you want to do that [00:54:23] do that that probably makes [00:54:25] I think the key [00:54:27] again the key committee would be Capital [00:54:29] planning [00:54:31] that's all I got to say [00:54:37] Nicole how um how do other communities [00:54:39] handle the cdbj stuff do they have their [00:54:42] own because where have its own cdvg [00:54:45] actually I didn't look to see if they [00:54:47] have an um [00:54:48] a community development director or an [00:54:50] employee I know that was the committee [00:54:52] that was at the meeting I didn't look to [00:54:54] see if it was staff or not [00:54:56] um communities it depends I [00:54:58] the last one I worked in it was [00:55:00] completely funded by [00:55:04] myself was completely funded by a [00:55:06] Community Development block grant [00:55:10] to build a park they'd be able to help [00:55:11] homes and they would be able to fund the [00:55:13] office so [00:55:16] um you know and that's even this one [00:55:17] that's where's going through I believe [00:55:19] pvpc is doing most of the work and [00:55:21] there's like 260 000 for administration [00:55:24] fees so it's like 1.6 million a lot of [00:55:27] Social Services we're getting a road [00:55:28] done [00:55:29] um but [00:55:32] um I think that I I think that I think [00:55:34] Capital planning and Community [00:55:36] Development are just separate [00:55:38] um Capital planning is for the money [00:55:40] that you have [00:55:41] a pot you're able to either upgrade or [00:55:43] you know think about the future and [00:55:46] and doing bigger purchases [00:55:50] and then I think the Comm I'm sorry [00:55:52] Capital planning versus the building [00:55:53] committee [00:55:56] the reason I think it's defunct is [00:55:58] because there hasn't been any money for [00:55:59] Capital let's face it but a buildings [00:56:02] committee you know as I'm going through [00:56:03] now [00:56:04] you know on my own building and all of [00:56:06] this flooding I mean I could have had [00:56:07] some help with this [00:56:08] uh you know we can we I'm looking now at [00:56:11] a Community Grant to possibly possibly [00:56:13] do a new [00:56:15] um boiler Chiller system in this [00:56:17] building a new roof something you know [00:56:19] um we had a bunch of [00:56:22] um boilers fail and four of our [00:56:25] buildings so I'm working on getting all [00:56:27] that [00:56:28] up to code [00:56:30] um you know the townhouse has some [00:56:33] issues there so I just feel like if I [00:56:36] could use some help with you know that [00:56:40] not day to day but you know the [00:56:42] continuous maintenance of the Town [00:56:44] buildings and keep them on our Forefront [00:56:46] and be able to discuss them you know [00:56:49] maybe monthly or something like that [00:56:50] this one's [00:56:52] we're looking at this that you know [00:56:54] capital I maybe they could be fine [00:56:57] um or as the capital wants to work with [00:57:00] me [00:57:01] for ongoing issues that don't involve [00:57:04] any [00:57:06] um that would be great too I just I feel [00:57:08] like we could definitely [00:57:12] um you know kind of a thumb on the pulse [00:57:14] of all of our assets and our buildings [00:57:18] well I think you know I think the [00:57:20] capital planning committee can be both [00:57:22] strategic and preventative [00:57:26] um you know the fact that we don't have [00:57:28] money and you know the fact that we [00:57:30] don't have money to to you know make [00:57:32] major upgrades to buildings things take [00:57:35] time we've had you know we've had the [00:57:37] discussion about [00:57:39] um back when design I was on the finance [00:57:41] committee [00:57:42] a long long time ago when Kelly and Rob [00:57:45] we talked about the need for [00:57:48] um [00:57:49] you know strategic planning and figuring [00:57:52] out what to do with these buildings we [00:57:54] may not have the funding but you know [00:57:57] this group I would Envision would be [00:57:59] um strategic about finding grants [00:58:01] strategic about what are things that we [00:58:04] could apply for do some research but I [00:58:06] think they could also Encompass the [00:58:08] existing buildings it doesn't [00:58:10] necessarily need to be new buildings it [00:58:12] can be existing buildings and [00:58:15] um you know ultimately if we don't [00:58:16] maintain them then we're going to have a [00:58:18] problem and they will have to be [00:58:19] replaced and it will become a capital [00:58:21] item so at least my opinion I think that [00:58:24] committee could tackle [00:58:26] existing in future [00:58:29] um [00:58:29] we've had the constant discussion about [00:58:31] the need for a new police station if we [00:58:34] do not start talking about these things [00:58:36] now we're going to be in the same [00:58:37] position five years from now and no [00:58:40] closer to a new station or a new Public [00:58:42] Safety complex or new whatever a new [00:58:46] roof for the school a new whatever I [00:58:48] mean there's got to be a group there [00:58:50] that sort of handles these and they [00:58:52] don't necessarily [00:58:54] I mean you know maybe they meet on a [00:58:56] periodic basis to talk about what the [00:58:59] goals are strategic goals are in looking [00:59:02] at who was who is on that committee [00:59:05] um [00:59:06] you know it it's a member of the board [00:59:09] selectman the Town Administrator [00:59:11] Treasurer accountant a representative [00:59:14] from [00:59:15] um the assessors group finance committee [00:59:17] and at large and school committee [00:59:19] representative I mean I I again I don't [00:59:21] think there's any reason why these these [00:59:24] individuals have already been appointed [00:59:25] there are vacancies no one was appointed [00:59:28] for the from the board of Select Moon [00:59:30] no one was appointed from finance and no [00:59:33] one was appointed from the school [00:59:34] committee [00:59:36] um but there's no reason this committee [00:59:38] was appointed by us in June there's no [00:59:39] reason this committee can't meet [00:59:43] foreign [00:59:50] you know uh [00:59:53] what this group is charged with [00:59:56] the direction [01:00:04] I don't I think that's different though [01:00:06] than necessarily the cdbj I don't know [01:00:09] maybe it does fit in [01:00:12] no sorry that was completely separate [01:00:15] Community Development separate from [01:00:17] building and dental planning [01:00:20] we have master plan with the cdbg so are [01:00:23] you you're saying that there's nothing [01:00:25] happening [01:00:26] there's nothing happening not no need to [01:00:29] do anything Master planning related so [01:00:30] do we want to just retitle that [01:00:32] committee to [01:00:34] um or repurpose that committee or cdbg [01:00:37] purposes [01:00:39] at this point [01:00:44] really Rob do you guys have any thoughts [01:00:46] on any of this [01:00:47] laughs [01:00:50] other than your head probably wants to [01:00:52] blow off yeah that's exactly what I was [01:00:54] just thinking [01:00:56] um [01:01:00] I just I wonder the you know [01:01:03] the actions that you need to take to [01:01:06] change it or [01:01:09] Eric mentioned you know one I don't know [01:01:13] whichever the capital planning committee [01:01:15] was formed out of town needy I mean this [01:01:17] may have to go to town meeting if we're [01:01:19] talking about [01:01:20] three you know kind of realigning things [01:01:25] well I think the capital planning [01:01:26] committees are in existence and [01:01:29] I think maybe we look at the board of [01:01:31] Selectmen the purpose of it the board of [01:01:34] selectman appoints that committee that [01:01:37] was appointed by us right [01:01:40] so we can change the direction of that [01:01:42] committee at any time [01:01:45] so if that if the direction of the [01:01:47] committee if we decide that we'd like [01:01:48] this Capital planning committee to look [01:01:50] at Future expansion and also [01:01:52] preservation of existing buildings that [01:01:54] we have [01:01:55] that can be under the charge of that [01:01:57] committee [01:02:00] well doesn't the Community Development [01:02:02] advisory committee don't exist I mean it [01:02:04] was it was formed and it was [01:02:07] what people were appointed to it [01:02:12] when did it die and when was it created [01:02:15] and when did it die [01:02:17] um along with a lot of other things like [01:02:19] master plan and whatnot [01:02:21] Capital planning even sort of just died [01:02:23] on the vine even though Capital planning [01:02:26] exists because it was the town meeting [01:02:27] deal back in 2011. but the question is [01:02:31] you've already had this committee called [01:02:32] the Community Development advisory [01:02:33] committee you could easily lump the [01:02:36] building into that [01:02:39] um it doesn't have to deal necessarily [01:02:41] with master plan it could deal with [01:02:43] grants [01:02:45] the CBG stuff [01:02:47] right which is what we did [01:02:49] years ago [01:02:50] so why why reinvent the wheel I would [01:02:54] just find out find the charge for that [01:02:56] committee [01:02:57] and just reappoint it [01:02:59] they were a reappointed Eric [01:03:02] huh they were reappointed [01:03:05] development one yes no [01:03:11] since I've been here it's on our list of [01:03:13] the appointments by the board of [01:03:15] Selectmen as mentioned by if you look on [01:03:17] that [01:03:18] um web link that bill was kind enough to [01:03:20] find if they're on there [01:03:22] I think the problem is it got lumped [01:03:25] together with master plan in that [01:03:27] language in that [01:03:28] list I think it says masterpin slash [01:03:31] Community Development advisory committee [01:03:34] am I correct yes but I think that's how [01:03:37] it was created no I don't no I would [01:03:40] disagree with that I don't know how you [01:03:42] do it but I would dig back [01:03:44] I can try to look at my files but I [01:03:46] would dig back to find out when uh [01:03:48] Community Development advisory got [01:03:50] formed [01:03:51] because it really became the same group [01:03:53] but it was a separate committee [01:03:56] Nicole why don't we can we ask Ryan to [01:03:58] look back on this to look back through [01:04:00] the minutes and see when this happened [01:04:02] and if we need to retitle this or [01:04:04] repurpose that I don't I don't believe [01:04:06] that we should be combining Community [01:04:07] Development advisory and capital [01:04:09] planning [01:04:11] um I I think Capital planning is more in [01:04:15] my opinion and you guys can Capital [01:04:18] planning is more Town focused in terms [01:04:21] of [01:04:22] what our assets are and what we need and [01:04:25] what we need to do going forward [01:04:27] that's my opinion [01:04:29] [Music] [01:04:30] um [01:04:31] but and then cdbg is more [01:04:35] the broader scale I think [01:04:40] I would agree I would agree that we [01:04:42] still we still need two committees I [01:04:44] believe they're both active [01:04:45] they've both been appointed so there's [01:04:47] no reason that the capital planning [01:04:49] committee can't meet we would the [01:04:51] selectman may be why don't we put it on [01:04:53] our next agenda Nicole next month next [01:04:55] meeting agenda to [01:04:58] um appoint the representatives that are [01:05:01] missing on that group [01:05:03] and I believe there are Selectmen um [01:05:06] Finance school committee [01:05:10] um [01:05:11] I think those were the three [01:05:13] and Eric you're listed at the [01:05:15] representative large is that something [01:05:17] you know if you want to continue to stay [01:05:19] on that [01:05:20] if you guys want to find somebody that [01:05:23] um you think you can work with that's [01:05:25] fine with me I don't have to be on it [01:05:27] I've just been on it forever [01:05:30] so can we work on that Nicole and also [01:05:32] the master plan cdbg try to get some [01:05:34] resolution on that for the next meeting [01:05:36] okay so I'm not sure I I'm completely in [01:05:40] agreement with you on the the Community [01:05:42] Development and capital planning [01:05:45] you know building are completely [01:05:48] at least um but what I what I not sure [01:05:50] what you want me to do is master plan [01:05:53] I might do you think do you want me to [01:05:56] reach out to the planning board chairman [01:05:57] and see if I should just [01:05:59] delete master plan and just keep [01:06:01] Community Development advisory committee [01:06:03] up here just just separate them [01:06:05] well I I I'd like to check with Ryan [01:06:08] first and just see how it was created [01:06:10] and because maybe it's really not titled [01:06:13] that and it ended up on this sheet like [01:06:14] that I think that's what happened let's [01:06:17] just see exactly how it's titled and [01:06:19] then we'll figure out the course of [01:06:21] action on splitting it [01:06:23] okay [01:06:26] Kelly and Rob's that okay [01:06:28] that's fine [01:06:31] okay do we know who Rod Lee he is Lehi [01:06:36] yeah he's no longer in town I don't [01:06:38] believe it's correct no he moved out of [01:06:40] town [01:06:41] so there'll be too big [01:06:44] foreign [01:06:49] as far as I can see I mean it's master [01:06:51] plan slash Community Development [01:06:52] advisory committee uh but there's Eric [01:06:55] there's Rod Leahy loosen the child's [01:06:58] held some referred in a vacancy [01:07:00] so what we what we approved at the [01:07:03] meeting in June was um Eric Lucinda and [01:07:06] Harry [01:07:09] well and Rod but [01:07:12] Rod was not on this list [01:07:15] I I don't I don't know what maybe I'm [01:07:18] looking at a different list I'm looking [01:07:19] at something on my computer not I didn't [01:07:21] I didn't still find it on the website [01:07:23] so if you go to a different list if you [01:07:26] go [01:07:27] um to the home page and you go to [01:07:30] information and notices [01:07:35] it's on the right hand side [01:07:38] at least halfway down it says Town [01:07:40] appointments 20 22 to 20. I got it yes [01:07:43] yes yeah that's what I was looking for [01:07:45] The Rock Rod is not on there okay good [01:07:48] excellent [01:07:51] okay so let's follow up on that for the [01:07:53] next meeting [01:07:54] um okay no you had your hand up [01:07:57] yes thanks um [01:07:59] I know a lot of this confusion started [01:08:02] when we [01:08:03] um [01:08:04] what I asked to be appointed to what I [01:08:07] thought would be important to master [01:08:08] plan implementation committee and when [01:08:11] when Lisa Condit was [01:08:13] appointed to the master plan Community [01:08:16] Development advisory committee even [01:08:19] though she thought she was going to be [01:08:21] on the other one so [01:08:24] where [01:08:26] the two of us and there was other [01:08:28] interests you had in the same sort of [01:08:30] effort from I think Lisa Cohen and maybe [01:08:34] I [01:08:36] maybe I don't know where those [01:08:38] whether those spots exist to consider [01:08:41] filling with with these volunteers and I [01:08:45] wanted to ask Eric Fleming if [01:08:47] um I thought maybe I'm mistaken about [01:08:49] this that [01:08:51] that the master plan Community [01:08:53] Development Advisory Group [01:08:56] your committee um position that he had [01:08:58] with a term of 23 that I thought had [01:09:01] resigned because he wanted to focus on [01:09:03] Capital planning committee maybe I'm [01:09:05] mistaken about that so I am wondering [01:09:07] what how many spots are available [01:09:10] um [01:09:11] who's interested in them and then [01:09:15] for the capital planning committee which [01:09:17] does seem very important [01:09:20] I take Eric Eric I believe you're on [01:09:22] that too [01:09:23] um [01:09:24] and that's good but there's not a [01:09:26] position on that committee [01:09:29] for anyone from the planning board it's [01:09:31] an at large seat that I think [01:09:34] so I'm wondering whether that committee [01:09:36] is [01:09:37] that's the full list of people there [01:09:38] that there's no one from planning board [01:09:40] that would be on that command [01:09:42] and so forth so [01:09:43] I know I know it's a lot of things to [01:09:45] sort out here but uh I think this the [01:09:47] structure would be good to get in line [01:09:49] as we [01:09:50] 've been moving [01:09:51] well on after January 20th meeting [01:09:54] selectman's meeting I sent the letter in [01:09:56] resigned for master plan [01:09:59] um although I wrote master plan slash [01:10:01] Community Development advisory committee [01:10:03] which is fine [01:10:05] um making room for fresh blood [01:10:08] um [01:10:10] doing this for 20 plus years time for me [01:10:12] to go [01:10:14] um [01:10:15] so that makes room for that uh again I [01:10:18] would separate master plan [01:10:21] from cdac anyway but I believe that it [01:10:24] already exists but [01:10:26] but that just needs to be clarified but [01:10:28] yes make room and I'd be happy I need to [01:10:31] be on [01:10:33] um [01:10:34] Capital planning if somebody wants to [01:10:37] step up and do it that's fine with me [01:10:39] so why don't we do this so Nicole can we [01:10:42] put it on our next agenda that we have [01:10:44] to accept Eric's resignation [01:10:46] because he's an appointed individual [01:10:49] um [01:10:50] why don't we all come with our thoughts [01:10:52] for next meeting on um let's clarify [01:10:55] these committees [01:10:56] and let's [01:10:58] um Kelly Rob and myself and Nicole will [01:11:01] come with our thoughts and who should be [01:11:03] on this committee and let's get them [01:11:05] properly structured make sure we're [01:11:08] considering who should be who we think [01:11:10] should be included from the Departments [01:11:12] and then [01:11:13] um once we have these created we can [01:11:15] address the interest that's there but [01:11:17] until we know what these are and who [01:11:19] should be on them once we come up with [01:11:21] who should be on them we can't you know [01:11:24] that's the starting point so let's [01:11:27] continue to move this forward for a [01:11:29] discussion next time and then [01:11:32] let's come up with a structure what they [01:11:34] should be and then we can figure out [01:11:36] um in the meantime if there is some [01:11:38] interest you can send it to Nicole uh [01:11:40] but are we okay with that Kelly and Rob [01:11:42] for next time [01:11:44] I'm fine [01:11:45] okay we could talk about this all night [01:11:47] and not get anywhere so okay [01:11:50] okay [01:11:51] uh moving forward sewer project change [01:11:54] order Nicole [01:11:57] um so the change order was just the [01:11:59] change of location [01:12:00] so we went through and uh got the grant [01:12:05] of easement and the easement [01:12:07] agreement I [01:12:09] and now we're moving forward [01:12:12] um with a pre-construction meeting in [01:12:13] early March for the new location which [01:12:16] is just North of the common where it was [01:12:18] originally located [01:12:24] thank you Nicole anything Kelly or Rob [01:12:27] on this [01:12:29] I'm fine [01:12:32] you're sure you're fine yeah okay [01:12:37] um Rob anything on this [01:12:39] I think we've pretty much killed that [01:12:41] thing [01:12:42] I think we're good yeah yeah [01:12:46] the horse is already dead and we beat it [01:12:48] several times after so [01:12:50] um no pun intended sorry that was really [01:12:53] a bad time sorry about that [01:12:56] after it came out I thought gosh I [01:12:58] should not have said that [01:13:00] um [01:13:00] a little too soon [01:13:03] um [01:13:06] um okay [01:13:08] tax math maintenance proposal [01:13:13] it's a housekeeping order this is [01:13:15] typical [01:13:16] um this is something from the assessor [01:13:18] and [01:13:21] I believe you do it every year so [01:13:24] um [01:13:25] she gave it to me on the day of her last [01:13:27] meeting so I this is the one that I had [01:13:29] requested that we just [01:13:35] so [01:13:36] um [01:13:38] it's nineteen hundred dollars for GIS [01:13:40] maintenance [01:13:41] I don't know how everybody else thinks [01:13:43] of the gis for the town but it's not [01:13:45] very user friendly [01:13:47] to me [01:13:49] easier to [01:13:51] navigate [01:13:52] anyway so this is uh just something that [01:13:56] you have to approve each year [01:14:00] and the cost is 1900 Nicole yep [01:14:04] and Jen has budgeted this already so [01:14:08] okay [01:14:12] kind of motion really please [01:14:14] I would make a motion to accept the text [01:14:17] met facts math maintenance proposal for [01:14:20] the town of Hardwick from c a i [01:14:24] Technologies [01:14:25] um the maintenance agreement is nineteen [01:14:28] hundred dollars [01:14:30] with an additional twenty dollars per [01:14:32] building added or changed if uh building [01:14:35] Footprints are necessary [01:14:40] this is for calendar 2020. sorry just a [01:14:43] clarification this is for calendar 2023 [01:14:45] correct [01:14:51] uh so Mook and seconded uh moved by [01:14:54] Kelly seconded by Rob any other [01:14:55] discussion [01:14:58] hearing none I'll call the rules Julie [01:15:00] is yes Kelly [01:15:02] yes Rob [01:15:04] yeah [01:15:05] okay motion carries [01:15:07] one day license for the Stone Church [01:15:11] the stone the Stone Church is having [01:15:14] um an Irish [01:15:16] fundraiser Irish luncheon fundraiser on [01:15:19] March 11th of 2023 and stone cow is [01:15:24] um going to be like doing the alcohol so [01:15:28] they just need a one day license but the [01:15:30] friends of Stone Church is pulling out [01:15:32] the permit or permanently pulling out [01:15:34] the license [01:15:40] so we have I know when we do the bear [01:15:44] tent for the Harvard Fair we have a lot [01:15:46] of paperwork that goes with it do we [01:15:48] have all the paperwork for this Nicole [01:15:50] I do not have it yet but I told her that [01:15:53] she can't have her license [01:15:55] right like they have to approve their [01:15:57] like Serve Safe And so certified and [01:16:00] yeah and uh [01:16:02] and live at liquor liability insurance [01:16:06] have we talked to have they talked to [01:16:08] the chief about this are we talking to [01:16:10] the chief about this I have not [01:16:12] uh this is Cheryl may I speak [01:16:17] sure [01:16:19] uh I have talked to the uh [01:16:24] deputy chief about it [01:16:27] um [01:16:28] he had no problems with what we were [01:16:31] planning [01:16:33] I can literally get the paperwork to you [01:16:37] we do have the the insurance [01:16:43] do you mean the lieutenant Cheryl [01:16:46] yes okay the deputy chief is on the fire [01:16:50] department I want to make sure that [01:16:52] you're talking about the police I just [01:16:53] we want to clarify that you're talking [01:16:55] about the police [01:16:56] yeah [01:16:58] okay thank you and this is [01:17:01] um hours that alcohol will be served two [01:17:04] to four is that what that is [01:17:07] yeah [01:17:08] okay [01:17:18] you know they've calculated [01:17:23] two beers per person if half or however [01:17:27] many people drink they're not serving [01:17:29] you know they're not it's not as you [01:17:31] know you can buy as much as you want [01:17:33] it's really Limited [01:17:35] yeah [01:17:37] um it's not you know an all-day event [01:17:40] so I [01:17:47] I don't I don't have an issue with it as [01:17:49] long as they submit all the required [01:17:51] um approvals and proof [01:17:55] and not the chief or the lieutenant are [01:17:58] um okay let this [01:18:04] we normally get that though before we [01:18:06] vote on them [01:18:09] um we do yeah [01:18:11] oh yeah this is [01:18:14] I don't want to hold up their event but [01:18:15] I also want to say [01:18:17] yeah and we should have all the [01:18:19] paperwork when we're looking at this [01:18:21] application I agree [01:18:24] put it on the next agenda it's [01:18:25] it's not until March 11th so [01:18:28] approved but on [01:18:33] the next okay so it doesn't sound like [01:18:35] it's an issue we just want to make sure [01:18:36] all the paperwork's in order Cheryl [01:18:38] okay [01:18:42] thank you thanks [01:18:46] thanks Cheryl [01:18:49] um anything under other new business [01:18:56] so I guess I'll just bring up um the [01:18:58] selectment around tables we've been [01:19:00] having the Silicon round tape um [01:19:02] sorry the select men's monthly meetings [01:19:06] um and [01:19:07] um [01:19:08] you know I think they originally started [01:19:10] because attendance at the department had [01:19:12] meetings or what wasn't a lot of [01:19:14] attendance and it's also our way to stay [01:19:16] connected to the town employees and for [01:19:18] us to be [01:19:19] sort of visible to them um we do have [01:19:21] one coming up on February 15th at um the [01:19:24] time was changed to 2 p.m because [01:19:26] unfortunately I have a client Conflict [01:19:28] at 4 30. so [01:19:30] um [01:19:31] maybe what we can do at that point uh [01:19:33] Nicole raised the concern that you know [01:19:35] it's two meetings for people to attend [01:19:38] um and sort of the confusion on maybe [01:19:42] what the town employees on why is this [01:19:44] you know what's different from a [01:19:46] department head meeting versus a [01:19:47] selectman meeting [01:19:49] um I think it's good to be in front of [01:19:51] them [01:19:52] um you know whether we do it monthly [01:19:54] maybe too much [01:19:56] um this likely would be my last one so I [01:19:59] would like to continue to hold [01:20:01] um this one [01:20:02] um and then if we decide I don't know if [01:20:04] we decide [01:20:06] you know maybe ask the question at the [01:20:07] meeting is it meaningful do you think [01:20:08] it's redundant [01:20:10] um to them [01:20:11] uh because if they want the meeting I [01:20:13] certainly don't want to not have the [01:20:15] meeting if they want to have that Avenue [01:20:19] um but maybe if it is too much we could [01:20:21] go to quarterly Kelly Rob [01:20:24] yeah I do think I do think that they're [01:20:27] important I agree with you to be in [01:20:29] front of you know the department heads [01:20:31] and and and for Nicole for that matter [01:20:34] too if there's things that you know that [01:20:36] that come up and you know maybe it's not [01:20:38] a meeting or and it's something that we [01:20:40] can just talk about during that time [01:20:42] frame [01:20:43] it's an hour that you know [01:20:45] try to keep them casual [01:20:47] I mean [01:20:49] do you think that they serve a different [01:20:51] purpose I mean Nicole's overseeing all [01:20:54] these departments and for her to have [01:20:56] her department meetings is very [01:20:58] important and I think I agree that for [01:21:01] us it's just [01:21:03] a means of being in front of department [01:21:06] heads and employees on a more casual [01:21:09] level just to check in with people to [01:21:11] see you know if there's anything [01:21:13] additionally that we can be doing for [01:21:14] them [01:21:16] um [01:21:17] but I'm not opposed to you know feeling [01:21:19] them out at you know one of the next [01:21:21] meetings and seeing you know you know [01:21:24] quarterly or every other month we give [01:21:26] them you know I'm I'm open to either [01:21:28] ways [01:21:31] dude [01:21:35] I'd agree with you Kelly [01:21:37] um [01:21:38] foreign [01:21:39] I [01:21:42] feel like it gave me a chance to see [01:21:44] some people and talk to a few [01:21:46] departments that I hadn't really talked [01:21:48] to in a while and [01:21:50] they all gave some feedback about what's [01:21:52] going on [01:21:54] that you know sorry for Nicole to give [01:21:56] us and her [01:21:58] you know steal every meeting [01:22:01] of exactly what they're doing so [01:22:04] to get that update even if it's [01:22:07] like you said [01:22:08] a couple times a year that each one of [01:22:11] us is in there and it's better than not [01:22:14] at all [01:22:18] right so um [01:22:20] I'll have the meeting this week and [01:22:23] um ask the question and see if um [01:22:27] meaningful and if it's meaningful you [01:22:30] know we can all bring the feedback next [01:22:32] to our next meeting and maybe we can [01:22:34] make the decision on what we do going [01:22:35] forward [01:22:40] um anything else under other new [01:22:42] business [01:22:43] foreign [01:22:48] funding Nicole I think we addressed that [01:22:51] right [01:22:56] uh committee reports I think we [01:23:01] um well I think you have the department [01:23:02] reports from your department head [01:23:04] meeting [01:23:06] um [01:23:08] Kelly or Rob anything you want to talk [01:23:10] about on that Nicole or Kelly or Rob [01:23:12] um you guys have any questions [01:23:15] and I read through it it's good to see [01:23:18] the good turnout so I'm happy about that [01:23:21] thank you me too this [01:23:23] is [01:23:24] I know each month [01:23:34] I do can I just point one thing out oh [01:23:37] sorry Rob go ahead [01:23:39] I was just gonna say now it's nice to [01:23:41] see that people have added so much and [01:23:43] it's seems to be evolving so yeah [01:23:47] thank you departments Phil [01:23:49] IP going forward [01:23:59] I just wanted to point out the um the [01:24:03] vaccine clinic that's happening at the [01:24:04] townhouse on February 22nd from three to [01:24:08] six uh it's like it's a covid vaccine [01:24:10] only [01:24:11] and each individual Awards through the [01:24:13] 75 gift card [01:24:16] um reach out to the Board of Health [01:24:18] because I don't know any other details [01:24:20] there is a flyer that has been put on [01:24:24] the website as well [01:24:25] but the link isn't on the Link's on the [01:24:28] paper but you can you can write it down [01:24:30] and copy [01:24:31] copy and go to the link [01:24:33] it's not [01:24:34] the the flyer doesn't have the link [01:24:37] you know the on it but there is a [01:24:41] a link that you can go to or you can [01:24:42] call the Board of Health and they can [01:24:43] give you more information [01:24:48] great thank you [01:24:51] anything under miscellaneous [01:24:52] correspondence simple [01:24:54] there's just one [01:24:56] um dpu that National Grid actually uh is [01:25:00] having a public hearing [01:25:08] um [01:25:09] sorry I didn't really read it that well [01:25:11] it's um [01:25:13] there to allow DG facilities to [01:25:16] interconnect in and around Brimfield [01:25:17] hardwood Colin Munson Palmer whaleswear [01:25:20] and Warren [01:25:22] it's this this notice is on our website [01:25:24] as well [01:25:25] so it's [01:25:28] it's going to start Wednesday March 8th [01:25:30] at 2 p.m and it's by Zoom so [01:25:33] that'll be on our web you know you'll [01:25:35] see that from our from our calendar as [01:25:37] well I believe Ryan put it up there [01:25:40] that was that was it [01:25:46] okay [01:25:52] um found administrator report [01:25:56] yep you want me to go through that [01:25:59] um is there anything you want to [01:26:01] highlight on Kelly rob you have [01:26:02] questions for Nicole or is there [01:26:03] anything you want to highlight Nicole [01:26:08] um [01:26:13] I don't know if um [01:26:16] again this I put these on the website if [01:26:18] anybody has any questions for the public [01:26:20] but um [01:26:21] USDA is always at the top so anything [01:26:24] new that I'm doing regarding the sewer [01:26:26] project will always be right at the top [01:26:29] we're still reviewing rape studies and [01:26:32] betterments to be able to bring in front [01:26:34] of you for options at some point [01:26:37] um [01:26:38] so this Friday I have a meeting [01:26:41] and we like I had said we put it as an [01:26:43] agenda item that the change order has [01:26:45] gone through everything's [01:26:48] um going smoothly there [01:26:50] uh the second project which would be the [01:26:52] wheel right [01:26:54] I always do this I call it a pump [01:26:56] station [01:26:57] we'll write [01:26:59] listen [01:27:02] um we started treatment plant is is [01:27:05] this project to go for [01:27:07] a forbid probably within the next couple [01:27:09] of weeks [01:27:11] and I did want to point out I believe I [01:27:13] may have told you before but the USDA [01:27:16] has approved to pay for our sewer debt [01:27:19] so anything that we have that we're [01:27:22] paying on bands [01:27:23] annually which I don't know I'd have to [01:27:26] ask Jessica it's you know so two million [01:27:29] dollar two million seven hundred [01:27:30] thousand four hundred dollars is what's [01:27:33] being uh wiped Away by USDA [01:27:39] um for [01:27:40] some extra funding somewhere else [01:27:44] we are going to a gov domain it's sort [01:27:48] of been pushed by the state and federal [01:27:50] government as long along with all of the [01:27:53] EIT firms and even our insurance who do [01:27:56] cyber security for us it's it's just [01:27:59] much more secure when you have a.gov [01:28:03] or why [01:28:05] um but that is [01:28:07] part of it and I I now realize remember [01:28:11] that I put here when I met with the [01:28:13] insurance company last month to go over [01:28:15] you know everything coming for the [01:28:17] following year they said on all of our [01:28:19] cell phones we're gonna have to have two [01:28:20] step authentic outfit [01:28:23] um like when I log in remotely I have on [01:28:26] my cell phone and often authenticator [01:28:28] that I have to put into [01:28:31] um you know to be able to [01:28:34] and they want it they want us to do it [01:28:36] with phones too so [01:28:38] they don't recommend that I use my [01:28:41] personal cell phone [01:28:42] but I've been doing it for 18 months now [01:28:46] so I kind of thought [01:28:49] um if something happens and they [01:28:51] confiscate my phone [01:28:55] um and then it'll be for work and I [01:28:57] don't know I don't know I [01:28:59] I it's not doesn't seem like a big deal [01:29:01] to me but it kind of seems like a big [01:29:03] deal to the insurance company [01:29:05] who like said [01:29:07] happy inserting your phone [01:29:09] your work [01:29:11] an option so that's just sort of on the [01:29:14] Forefront of my mind I don't know [01:29:15] exactly what to do with that yet [01:29:17] ah we did receive a [01:29:19] very easily gotten Grant Julie was was [01:29:25] um it's a wellness Grant through Maya [01:29:27] and we're able to purchase [01:29:29] a bunch of [01:29:31] uh and it's really for employee Wellness [01:29:33] so we got break room equipment uh a [01:29:38] couple of weeks ago one of the mark [01:29:39] drivers the newest one came in and said [01:29:41] is there somewhere for me to eat my [01:29:42] lunch I was like oh okay you just like [01:29:45] the restaurants so we were able to [01:29:47] purchase tables and chairs and a in a [01:29:50] lounge area so there's a couch and and [01:29:53] chairs and tables and [01:29:56] up lights and some fake plants and [01:29:58] things like that for for now that the [01:30:01] treasure collector's office is empty the [01:30:02] former treasure collector's office so um [01:30:05] we can put a break room up there and I [01:30:07] got some [01:30:09] picnic tables for Poss you know [01:30:11] hopefully fire department Highway [01:30:14] departments you know [01:30:18] enjoy a break out there [01:30:20] so that's been coming in slowly I also [01:30:23] got stand-up desks so people you know [01:30:25] you can sit and stand so you're just not [01:30:27] all sitting all the [01:30:29] older so that hat and that's um the [01:30:32] employees are happy with that [01:30:37] um [01:30:38] I think so the vacant Town owned Parcels [01:30:41] so we have the white building down here [01:30:43] which was a former Senior Center [01:30:46] page building the Ruggles Hill School [01:30:49] what I also learned when I had my [01:30:52] meeting with the insurance company [01:30:54] they weren't insured so [01:30:57] we insured them [01:31:03] the building but [01:31:05] that gets expensive too and they're [01:31:07] falling apart and dilapidated and maybe [01:31:09] this is a capital planning conversation [01:31:11] but [01:31:13] I don't know what we want to do with [01:31:14] them they're just costing US money [01:31:16] all the time again if we had no [01:31:19] insurance on it and something happened [01:31:20] we would be responsible for all of it [01:31:22] for all of the cleanup for all for [01:31:24] whatever happened [01:31:26] Insurance on them but [01:31:29] I don't know what we want to do with [01:31:30] them do we want to I know there's been [01:31:33] rfps in the past do we want to try to [01:31:35] sell them again [01:31:39] get them off of you know the town's [01:31:41] liability [01:31:45] well I think that's something that you [01:31:46] know we need to discuss and that could [01:31:48] be part of the capital planning [01:31:49] committee charge [01:31:51] we know what those buildings [01:31:53] um some of them you know we have to be [01:31:56] by those hill we have limitations there [01:31:58] because of what's located there [01:32:02] um [01:32:04] I mean I think we've not something we're [01:32:07] gonna solve tonight but something we [01:32:08] maybe think about what the best group is [01:32:11] to sort of handle that [01:32:13] so maybe can we leave that on the agenda [01:32:14] for the next time and Kelly and Rob we [01:32:17] can give that some thought yeah [01:32:22] great the last thing is that the [01:32:24] carpeting has finally been installed in [01:32:27] all of the offices [01:32:28] so now we and and I did I don't want to [01:32:31] call it a run around because I'm sure [01:32:33] it's legitimate [01:32:34] um that you know we had that deep freeze [01:32:36] for a couple of days and when that [01:32:37] happened all of these restoration [01:32:39] companies [01:32:43] frozen pipes Etc so now we take the back [01:32:47] seat again so last week I knew they [01:32:50] would be [01:32:52] would be I asked [01:32:54] last week to schedule for tomorrow to [01:32:57] start coming in moving all the contents [01:32:59] back into all of the offices so then the [01:33:01] foyer can be done but now they're [01:33:04] backlogged so they're coming on the 27th [01:33:06] if they can come sooner they will but [01:33:08] we're looking at this for another two [01:33:11] weeks and we're looking at another Zoom [01:33:13] meeting [01:33:14] and my hands are you know he says is it [01:33:17] okay if we come on the 27th I don't know [01:33:19] what to say I wanted to say no it's not [01:33:21] okay come [01:33:22] but I [01:33:25] here we are still waiting [01:33:30] but the carpets are in and they look [01:33:31] great [01:33:34] uh I think we're sort of at the mercy of [01:33:36] availability and timing and things so it [01:33:40] is what it is [01:33:42] um [01:33:44] oh just one more thing I do attend [01:33:47] coffee hour at the Hardwick Berry Senior [01:33:50] Center the first Wednesday of the month [01:33:52] at nine o'clock so please feel free to [01:33:55] come in [01:33:56] um you know send your neighbor send your [01:33:58] mom send anybody that has any questions [01:34:00] just want to have conversation wants to [01:34:03] learn about things that are going on [01:34:05] um I'd love to see them [01:34:09] okay so that's where I am the first [01:34:10] Wednesday morning at nine o'clock every [01:34:12] every month [01:34:13] first Wednesday of the month sorry [01:34:18] great thank you that's it everything [01:34:20] else is pretty much just ongoing and uh [01:34:26] status quo [01:34:28] so I wanted to talk a little bit about [01:34:29] the website [01:34:31] um I just um my email was wrong on the [01:34:33] email string that went through so I just [01:34:35] saw this this afternoon [01:34:37] um but we've all been given a link to [01:34:39] the um upcoming [01:34:41] website I know Julie marquette's [01:34:45] um on tonight and [01:34:47] um coordinating [01:34:49] um with our [01:34:51] um getting this up and running so Kelly [01:34:54] and Rob if you want to take a look at [01:34:55] the link I will as well it's supposed to [01:34:58] go live on the 20th [01:35:00] um Ryan also sent us something from his [01:35:04] um most recent uh [01:35:09] uh conference for clerks relative to [01:35:12] security and such [01:35:14] um presuming Julie's seen it she was [01:35:15] copied on it so I mean the goal is to [01:35:18] get a functional website but we also [01:35:20] want to make sure it's secure and and [01:35:23] the way that it has to be [01:35:26] um [01:35:27] and so [01:35:28] um [01:35:29] Kelly and Rob if you want to take a look [01:35:32] at it if you haven't already I just [01:35:34] quickly browsed it [01:35:36] um [01:35:37] I haven't had a lot of time to dig into [01:35:39] it but if there's I mean you know the [01:35:42] the website is [01:35:44] um [01:35:45] you know at least from my perspective [01:35:47] you know should be informative [01:35:51] um we should make sure it has on it what [01:35:54] we'd like to see on it and [01:35:57] um also maintaining [01:36:00] um you know an appropriate level of [01:36:02] security uh [01:36:05] that needs to be there and presumably [01:36:07] hopefully Julie's helping on that end [01:36:10] with her knowledge and I'm sure she is [01:36:12] with her knowledge and expertise [01:36:15] um [01:36:18] um so if you guys can reach out directly [01:36:20] to Nicole with questions or [01:36:23] edits or whatever you think if there is [01:36:25] anything Julie did you want to say [01:36:27] anything relative to the website while [01:36:29] we're on the topic [01:36:33] I just wanted to say that if we don't [01:36:34] have the.gov domain by the 20th it [01:36:37] shouldn't go live until we have [01:36:42] that so where does that stand Nicole [01:36:45] it's with RIT and I talked to Julie [01:36:48] today and I was supposed to reach out to [01:36:50] them and I didn't I forgot [01:36:52] so I'm gonna reach out to CM Geeks [01:36:57] okay [01:36:59] if anybody sees anything that they think [01:37:01] is missing or should be there or [01:37:03] different please let me know [01:37:06] because I'm in the process of really [01:37:08] transferring the old website over to the [01:37:10] new website and I keep catching things [01:37:14] a lot I I like that I like that I'm [01:37:17] actually on [01:37:19] the awning but I thought I would pop on [01:37:20] just to look at it I do I like the look [01:37:22] and feel of it it looks user friendly [01:37:26] um [01:37:28] so I'm excited I'll be excited to see [01:37:30] this [01:37:31] um you know thankfully Bill pointed out [01:37:34] where the appointments were on ours so I [01:37:36] could get to it easily but our existing [01:37:39] one [01:37:40] um [01:37:42] although you've done a great job at [01:37:44] keeping it up Julie you know definitely [01:37:46] time for an update and we just want to [01:37:49] make sure we're [01:37:51] um you know it's meaningful and useful [01:37:53] and I think you're doing a good job at [01:37:54] that so [01:37:55] thank you I agree I needed an update [01:38:02] okay [01:38:03] um anything I've I've lost my agenda [01:38:06] somewhere [01:38:07] um anything [01:38:08] signatures and approvals do you have [01:38:10] anything for us Nicole no [01:38:13] okay anything under selectman Roundtable [01:38:20] I don't have anything really [01:38:27] Rob do you have anything [01:38:30] uh the only thing I like to bring up [01:38:34] soon in a meeting if we can really deal [01:38:36] with a science building inspector [01:38:39] I really think we need to meet with [01:38:41] Barry and [01:38:44] um [01:38:45] get some additional complaints about [01:38:47] people trying to get permitting permits [01:38:50] and what bothers me is if people [01:38:54] can't easily get permits they're not [01:38:56] going to get from it which is revenue [01:38:58] for the town [01:38:59] you're just going to do things [01:39:01] because of pain [01:39:04] you know and you want to get done you're [01:39:05] just either going to do it or you're [01:39:07] going to get frustrated not do it but [01:39:09] I don't know if there's something we can [01:39:10] do with [01:39:12] as a board or give them some help [01:39:14] somewhere to help streamline his process [01:39:17] but [01:39:19] um I really think it's something we need [01:39:21] to address [01:39:23] and we um can we have the people [01:39:25] presumably you're Fielding the [01:39:27] complaints people are complaining to you [01:39:30] worked well [01:39:32] or talking to you about their [01:39:33] frustrations [01:39:35] I can would you like me to send you an [01:39:38] email I just got there yeah I mean it [01:39:41] really should come to really really yeah [01:39:43] it should really come to the board and [01:39:45] Nicole [01:39:46] um Nicole can we um in the past I know [01:39:49] that the representatives the chair of [01:39:52] all the member towns have gotten [01:39:54] together [01:39:54] to discuss the building inspector the [01:39:58] last one [01:39:59] um that we attended didn't go so well uh [01:40:02] it wasn't anyone on this board who [01:40:03] attended it um we ended up having to [01:40:06] write a letter of apology after that [01:40:08] um but I think we should [01:40:11] any contract that we're involved with we [01:40:14] really should be sitting down at least [01:40:16] once a year and see if it's still [01:40:17] working and if we're not getting the [01:40:20] service that we need we need to push for [01:40:22] that because there potentially are other [01:40:23] communities and we may need to add some [01:40:26] more resources maybe he just doesn't [01:40:27] have the capacity to do it [01:40:30] um yeah yeah I mean I I absolutely think [01:40:33] it's it's probably that kind of a [01:40:34] situation and and I you know I don't [01:40:38] want to poo poo to you know to build an [01:40:40] inspector but [01:40:42] need to give him some help let's do it [01:40:45] and she can [01:40:47] keep this moving [01:40:49] right [01:40:52] so um Nicole can you reach out to Barry [01:40:56] to see if we can and Rob can you forward [01:40:59] that email to us so we have that uh [01:41:03] and so we have specifics we can maybe we [01:41:06] can [01:41:07] um [01:41:08] get a meeting together of all of the [01:41:10] group and address our concerns [01:41:13] if you have specific concerns relative [01:41:15] to that we haven't talked about relative [01:41:17] to the position or what the needs are [01:41:19] it's probably a good time because if we [01:41:22] need to build something into the budget [01:41:23] for support we need to do that need to [01:41:26] think about it now do we have anybody um [01:41:29] maybe you can be thinking about because [01:41:30] Nicole do we have anybody in the [01:41:31] municipal building in a um support [01:41:34] position now that could [01:41:37] um we could increase their hours a [01:41:39] little bit and provide some support for [01:41:41] building [01:41:44] I don't know [01:41:46] I was thinking maybe I was thinking [01:41:48] maybe Peggy [01:41:50] yeah [01:41:51] yeah I don't know if you know rather [01:41:53] than bringing on a new position we had [01:41:56] talked about having a a common I hate to [01:41:59] use the word clerk because I it just has [01:42:01] a whole connotation that like a support [01:42:03] person yeah [01:42:05] um if we could find a support person [01:42:06] that could help multiple committees and [01:42:08] Boards [01:42:09] um you know maybe that's something we [01:42:11] could so we're not finding a complete [01:42:14] new person but someone who maybe would [01:42:16] want five additional hours a week or you [01:42:19] know whatever it might be [01:42:21] I think the only issue with that is [01:42:23] everybody would be put over the [01:42:25] threshold of receiving benefits [01:42:31] okay well let's give it something I mean [01:42:34] that's definitely been it's [01:42:37] super built [01:42:38] [Music] [01:42:39] it's the only time [01:42:43] I need to turn over [01:42:45] um he definitely is more he doesn't [01:42:48] because I have told him [01:42:51] you have to help people if they this is [01:42:53] a customer service industry if you if if [01:42:56] somebody needs help in Direction then [01:42:59] you need to help them [01:43:00] he is he all you know he said he works [01:43:03] for the state and he doesn't [01:43:06] sure he works for Barry [01:43:08] um [01:43:09] but [01:43:10] he likes to do the way he likes to do [01:43:12] things the way he likes to do them and [01:43:14] he he wants people to hire contractors [01:43:16] and [01:43:18] file the correct permits and if he gives [01:43:21] them if he has no action on it he wants [01:43:24] them to figure out why so you know [01:43:27] you know I've done a few times for sure [01:43:28] to try to facilitate some things but um [01:43:33] a little bit of help would probably go a [01:43:35] long way [01:43:36] can we see if any of the other [01:43:37] communities that we share [01:43:39] that were in this agreement with have a [01:43:42] support person [01:43:43] if someone's already in that position as [01:43:45] has availability and already understands [01:43:47] a position maybe they'd consider working [01:43:49] in hardwood for a few hours [01:43:52] if they're not full-time in the other [01:43:54] community or even if they are full-time [01:43:55] in the other community and have [01:43:57] the availability it'd be you know we [01:44:00] know they're familiar if it's someone in [01:44:01] that industry or that department that's [01:44:03] familiar with it let's see if we can do [01:44:05] a shared service for that support person [01:44:07] happy to bring it up if you if you can [01:44:10] reach out about a meeting [01:44:12] um I certainly will be the one to field [01:44:14] it and deal with it and that ask the [01:44:17] question and meeting if you'd like [01:44:24] anything else [01:44:31] everyone's brain dead right [01:44:34] after the Super Bowl [01:44:38] um I will actually [01:44:40] actually since as we're talking about [01:44:42] all these extras [01:44:44] um because our first glance at our [01:44:46] budget and we're 571 thousand dollars [01:44:49] over two and a half [01:44:51] so we have a lot of work ahead of us to [01:44:53] do [01:44:54] just wanted to throw that out there [01:45:00] on a high note [01:45:02] what what way to kill the laughs [01:45:06] I was just ready to wish everyone a [01:45:08] great Valentine's Day tomorrow [01:45:12] well I guess you know I think people [01:45:14] need to recognize that this is where we [01:45:17] start and then now we have to go and try [01:45:20] to be very creative about finding this [01:45:22] money and [01:45:24] um [01:45:26] you know we responding requests yeah and [01:45:29] we so we certainly are in need of [01:45:31] Revenue so any bit of Revenue that we're [01:45:34] not getting because people are [01:45:35] struggling to get Services then that [01:45:38] that don't move into this so [01:45:40] um we definitely you know the foundation [01:45:43] needs to be [01:45:44] be late I guess so that we can continue [01:45:48] to to earn the most Revenue that we [01:45:51] possibly can [01:45:53] because it's clearly needed [01:45:57] um so something upcoming I'll take off [01:45:59] my board of selectman hat per second and [01:46:02] put on my pathfinder hat [01:46:04] um in the call there is a March 15th [01:46:06] meeting coming up [01:46:08] um hopefully someone from Finance I'm [01:46:11] there as a member of the chair of the [01:46:13] Pathfinder school committee but [01:46:16] um Kelly and Rob you guys are welcome to [01:46:18] attend that is going to be the budget [01:46:20] presentation [01:46:22] um Nicole I'm sure you'll be getting an [01:46:23] invite or you've probably maybe already [01:46:25] been made aware of that [01:46:28] um I haven't it's Wednesday the 15th I [01:46:31] believe so and it's going to be held at [01:46:33] Pathfinder [01:46:34] um more details to follow [01:46:36] um in that meeting uh they'll go through [01:46:38] assessments and such so we'll know what [01:46:40] our assessment is our Refreshments too [01:46:42] I've been to those [01:46:44] yes they do and they're made by the [01:46:46] student so I would strongly encourage [01:46:48] you to come if you can I it's open to [01:46:51] um finance and school committee um sorry [01:46:55] um [01:46:55] whatever we are board of segment members [01:46:59] um so more details will come out on that [01:47:03] um I know they've been working [01:47:04] diligently on the budget uh but like [01:47:06] every other department in town uh [01:47:09] there's been you know I can [01:47:12] fairly certain that we can expect an [01:47:13] increase so [01:47:16] um [01:47:17] but more on that as it comes forward [01:47:19] we've also been told that somebody's [01:47:21] probably applying to Smith this year [01:47:24] at least one individual [01:47:28] okay which I do not have in a budget [01:47:33] yeah [01:47:34] okay [01:47:37] anything else [01:47:39] I'll stop talking now [01:47:42] all right well um thanks for all the [01:47:44] comments and questions that came up [01:47:46] tonight and the input we have are [01:47:48] certainly of our marching orders for the [01:47:50] next meeting [01:47:51] um [01:47:52] I hope everyone has a good Valentine's [01:47:54] Day tomorrow [01:47:56] um hopefully you don't have any meetings [01:47:58] at night so that you can enjoy time [01:48:01] whatever it is you're gonna do [01:48:03] um and I will entertain a motion to [01:48:05] adjourn motion to adjourn [01:48:10] moved by Kelly seconded by Rob call the [01:48:13] roll Julie's yes Kelly [01:48:16] yes Rob [01:48:18] yes [01:48:20] uh so the meeting is again