Hardwick Selectmen: FY2023 Budget, Capital, and Operations Review

[00:00:00] it's may 9th 6 30 i'm going to call the
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[00:00:04] would please stand
[00:00:09] recording in progress
[00:00:21] thank you everybody
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[00:00:40] okay
[00:00:55] does anybody else delete a copy
[00:01:00] i don't have any more copies
[00:01:03] i have an extra one here
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[00:01:18] this afternoon this number could
[00:01:20] possibly change yeah correct
[00:01:23] okay so i'm going to start what do you
[00:01:25] want to do yeah i mean i've looked
[00:01:28] through it
[00:01:29] okay
[00:01:30] um
[00:01:31] if you want to go through
[00:01:34] kind of your process
[00:01:36] and then you can collaborate and have
[00:01:38] questions can i just confirm that the
[00:01:41] people can the folks who are dialing in
[00:01:43] zoom actually hear us
[00:01:48] yes
[00:01:50] thank you
[00:02:03] um
[00:02:08] most of the expenses unless it was
[00:02:10] requested by a department to increase it
[00:02:13] and then i have it in the notes
[00:02:15] why they want to increase it for example
[00:02:17] the assessors needed um
[00:02:34] um increases
[00:02:37] in the uh department requested two
[00:02:39] percent
[00:02:40] for that
[00:02:42] because honestly two percent is kind of
[00:02:44] industry standard and i think three
[00:02:47] percent can be doable if you have
[00:02:54] [Laughter]
[00:03:02] um but essentially all of these lines
[00:03:05] are requests so i haven't gone back and
[00:03:07] said no or yes to anybody
[00:03:10] this is just what everybody requested
[00:03:12] um
[00:03:13] and
[00:03:15] then in the last column is basically
[00:03:18] raises
[00:03:20] so at the bottom at the end you'll see
[00:03:24] whether we're over under two and a half
[00:03:27] and at this time with all the requests
[00:03:29] they're over
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[00:03:46] last week
[00:04:10] let me know
[00:04:13] um
[00:04:25] for each meeting
[00:04:33] [Music]
[00:04:35] because i feel like one select board
[00:04:38] member and i should go to the mma
[00:04:40] meeting each year and um it really
[00:04:43] should be funded they're
[00:04:44] extremely important
[00:04:46] and we all everybody should be going i
[00:04:49] should be going over here
[00:05:08] i have an administrative assistant line
[00:05:10] item that's been here but it hasn't been
[00:05:12] funded at 19 hours at 20 dollars an hour
[00:05:15] 23. um
[00:05:30] um
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[00:05:46] um
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[00:06:18] we
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[00:06:53] recorded
[00:07:13] is
[00:07:16] [Laughter]
[00:08:10] um some issues when they first came in
[00:08:13] and they had to spend extra hours
[00:08:21] [Music]
[00:08:24] um but if we do stay with them either
[00:08:26] they should provide more services or um
[00:08:51] i'm not sure
[00:09:00] um
[00:09:25] [Music]
[00:09:34] temporary appointment of jessica
[00:09:36] crawford who is our treasurer
[00:09:38] the
[00:09:39] state the zls uh division of local
[00:09:42] standards is doing a financial aid for
[00:09:43] us this july 1 they're starting
[00:09:46] and they
[00:09:47] will
[00:09:48] strongly
[00:10:02] so i am hoping to um
[00:10:05] combine these positions
[00:10:21] is
[00:10:40] um
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[00:11:23] is
[00:11:54] i'm not
[00:12:20] conservation expense is
[00:12:34] um
[00:12:50] um town building expense townhouse
[00:12:53] i uh i raised it to eight thousand seven
[00:12:56] thousand because um i think it's
[00:12:58] consistently underfunded as well it's
[00:13:00] always just right there
[00:13:02] [Music]
[00:13:21] it's a matter of
[00:13:23] subscribing you know you'd have to put
[00:13:25] it under the townhouse
[00:13:34] [Applause]
[00:13:42] [Music]
[00:14:07] [Applause]
[00:14:12] i don't know i mean we're gonna do
[00:14:18] [Music]
[00:14:28] so many
[00:14:43] the um salary is um 82 974.95
[00:14:49] plus
[00:14:51] a 5 000
[00:14:52] um presented for education it says
[00:14:55] master's degree now these are requests
[00:15:15] [Music]
[00:15:21] again not approved
[00:15:38] number three is 55 000.
[00:15:42] reserve officer salary is reduced to 15
[00:15:45] 000 because now we have that
[00:15:47] place over time
[00:16:07] flying item is
[00:16:09] cruisers and if they requested
[00:16:13] about
[00:16:14] 65
[00:16:16] 87 in it not breaking out the leases
[00:16:20] and the maintenance
[00:16:26] [Applause]
[00:16:28] committee is requesting that they do get
[00:16:30] broken out and
[00:16:32] um
[00:17:02] they just
[00:17:04] [Laughter]
[00:17:44] due to how much they drive and all the
[00:17:47] miles that we have i think that's gonna
[00:17:49] be also talking about again
[00:18:10] that's the name
[00:18:16] [Music]
[00:18:26] and figure out you know how to make
[00:18:28] those expenses work
[00:18:30] this expense 25 500
[00:18:33] uniforms 10 100.
[00:18:36] 100 because um
[00:18:50] [Applause]
[00:18:52] [Music]
[00:18:54] not anything that
[00:19:09] um
[00:19:54] is
[00:20:18] firefighters labor
[00:20:23] [Music]
[00:20:43] um
[00:20:48] [Applause]
[00:20:55] um
[00:20:58] [Music]
[00:21:28] so it needs more maintenance
[00:21:50] i don't know what it
[00:21:57] probably what it will is i will get down
[00:21:58] to the fossil and aging and do the same
[00:22:00] thing
[00:22:01] um
[00:22:24] 2016.
[00:22:28] salary
[00:22:49] [Music]
[00:22:52] thank you emergency management
[00:23:00] um
[00:23:13] [Music]
[00:23:31] budget
[00:23:32] and we are
[00:23:34] by giving them
[00:23:48] we are um to give them so we are still
[00:23:51] giving them
[00:23:56] a million 899
[00:23:59] 119
[00:24:02] okay so
[00:24:02] [Laughter]
[00:24:32] scenario
[00:24:50] [Music]
[00:24:55] is
[00:25:12] [Applause]
[00:25:14] again is
[00:25:30] [Applause]
[00:25:58] um
[00:26:36] so
[00:26:55] [Music]
[00:27:23] um
[00:27:25] [Music]
[00:27:45] um
[00:28:06] for 20.
[00:28:14] [Applause]
[00:28:19] [Music]
[00:28:52] foreign
[00:29:12] [Music]
[00:29:25] because
[00:29:26] the street lights the way that these
[00:29:28] accounts have been paid
[00:29:31] out of several different accounts
[00:29:44] [Music]
[00:29:53] [Laughter]
[00:30:03] machinery
[00:30:06] maintenance 300.
[00:30:09] cemetery
[00:30:10] service contract
[00:30:12] 24 900. this is an actual figure because
[00:30:15] we got our only uh
[00:30:17] last week
[00:30:19] it's the same person
[00:30:26] [Music]
[00:30:29] i mean
[00:30:34] [Applause]
[00:30:39] [Music]
[00:31:02] we have five more years so two
[00:31:03] three-year agreements signed last year
[00:31:05] and lester they are our agent so i left
[00:31:08] it in here because we put on a
[00:31:09] supplemental
[00:31:10] uh board of health agents
[00:31:12] but
[00:31:13] lester is handling all of our agent work
[00:31:28] is
[00:31:44] in my opinion
[00:31:55] [Laughter]
[00:32:02] um
[00:32:19] [Laughter]
[00:32:28] um
[00:32:48] monitoring expense 13 100.
[00:32:52] animal inspector salary went up almost
[00:32:54] 700
[00:33:00] these are very very low salaries for
[00:33:02] these physicians especially in a farming
[00:33:04] town that we live in um
[00:33:12] [Laughter]
[00:33:20] is requesting that to go in there
[00:33:33] um
[00:33:50] nutrition contract service is
[00:34:06] [Laughter]
[00:34:10] [Applause]
[00:34:18] last year
[00:34:20] [Applause]
[00:34:25] um
[00:34:43] [Music]
[00:34:46] i don't know
[00:35:01] other things you know they do
[00:35:02] snowshoeing and ice skating and fishing
[00:35:04] and all kinds of things and i think it's
[00:35:06] great
[00:35:07] and
[00:35:08] if you're listening and you're not
[00:35:10] involved
[00:35:15] [Laughter]
[00:35:24] um
[00:35:36] [Music]
[00:35:42] each
[00:35:50] again due to our
[00:35:52] classification scale the directory
[00:35:56] [Music]
[00:36:03] page library expense 254.86
[00:36:17] is
[00:36:27] yes
[00:36:48] the last three years
[00:36:51] and
[00:36:52] take two and a half percent of that
[00:36:54] and add that to our second year i on
[00:36:58] chat they put the
[00:37:00] explanation
[00:37:02] from the nbc i cannot hear you well if
[00:37:06] you can hear me
[00:37:19] she's still
[00:37:31] [Music]
[00:37:35] for certification
[00:37:36] and speed aid
[00:37:40] that's what we did last year
[00:37:45] every single year you take just three
[00:37:48] years you average them you take two and
[00:37:50] a half percent and add that
[00:37:52] in your income
[00:38:00] it's hard for me to hear you there's so
[00:38:02] much interference from somewhere
[00:38:06] she asked julie what what the number is
[00:38:09] do we know what the number is or can we
[00:38:10] calculate what the number is
[00:38:12] oh i have all these figures but by the
[00:38:15] time i find them on my hard
[00:38:31] it can you because can you just email it
[00:38:33] to this phone so the whole has it please
[00:38:37] email it to me yeah
[00:38:39] yes please
[00:38:40] thank you
[00:38:52] um
[00:38:55] [Music]
[00:39:24] [Applause]
[00:39:40] to the same capacity
[00:39:48] he's already
[00:39:51] [Laughter]
[00:40:03] is
[00:40:13] um
[00:40:28] [Music]
[00:40:34] um
[00:40:48] [Music]
[00:40:50] 7910
[00:41:18] so i reached out to dls
[00:41:22] and i
[00:41:23] um
[00:41:31] [Applause]
[00:41:42] and asked her
[00:42:15] every type of
[00:42:17] all funding that you have in the state
[00:42:18] and this one is specific to enterprise
[00:42:20] funds
[00:42:22] chapter 44 section 53
[00:42:25] um
[00:42:36] such as health and life insurance
[00:42:38] unemployment insurance and pension
[00:42:39] processing homemade debt service these
[00:42:41] expenses may be funded into the
[00:42:55] is
[00:43:10] uh
[00:43:12] [Laughter]
[00:44:20] six general insurance 53 000 98 73
[00:44:26] and police and fire insurance thirty
[00:44:28] thousand
[00:44:29] general insurance
[00:44:48] um cycling is
[00:44:50] your salary went up two percent to
[00:44:51] ninety six hundred forty two dollars
[00:44:54] um and then labor's one no there's only
[00:44:57] three laborers but there's only three
[00:44:59] funded they went up to 526.95
[00:45:14] so
[00:45:15] we have increased all of the recycling
[00:45:31] um i have asked them to
[00:45:34] raise their rates again
[00:45:37] and also
[00:45:38] they need to make sure that their
[00:45:40] stickers are on their cards so
[00:45:42] if you say i have two cars and then you
[00:45:43] need to stay here so we have
[00:46:02] [Music]
[00:46:20] so they're easily identifiable
[00:46:47] we have two stickers
[00:46:59] [Music]
[00:47:10] and i told them
[00:47:12] that needs to be enforced
[00:47:19] [Music]
[00:48:19] i would like to maybe try and do some
[00:48:21] upgrades over there
[00:48:22] uh
[00:48:24] um
[00:48:37] the way that it
[00:48:39] is 4.65
[00:48:53] [Music]
[00:48:58] um
[00:49:42] we should see
[00:49:59] are we getting 12 balls
[00:50:24] um
[00:50:41] okay
[00:50:48] [Applause]
[00:51:02] okay
[00:51:12] [Applause]
[00:51:29] uh
[00:51:43] [Music]
[00:51:58] um
[00:52:05] [Laughter]
[00:52:11] budget request is six million dollars
[00:52:14] six million ninety four thousand two
[00:52:15] hundred dollars
[00:52:28] dollars
[00:52:34] foreign
[00:52:58] different
[00:53:17] i don't think
[00:53:41] one else at all
[00:53:55] [Music]
[00:54:16] and i think that hopefully as we go on
[00:54:18] and we get better revenues
[00:54:36] because
[00:54:49] where they're at
[00:55:10] [Music]
[00:55:33] and then you know obviously i'm like
[00:55:36] trying to tighten your belt for the next
[00:56:15] [Applause]
[00:56:32] um
[00:56:50] [Music]
[00:56:58] [Laughter]
[00:57:15] [Music]
[00:57:38] um
[00:57:58] okay
[00:58:09] [Music]
[00:58:43] is
[00:58:49] [Music]
[00:59:37] okay
[01:00:08] [Laughter]
[01:00:17] [Music]
[01:00:39] absolutely
[01:00:51] um
[01:01:25] okay
[01:01:47] um
[01:02:04] with me
[01:02:33] nowhere
[01:02:48] is
[01:02:51] [Laughter]
[01:03:02] um
[01:03:14] [Laughter]
[01:04:10] i mean we're running out of time
[01:04:40] oh
[01:04:57] [Music]
[01:05:10] meeting that night
[01:05:30] thank you
[01:06:02] it actually
[01:06:30] i'm
[01:06:43] that would be super
[01:06:44] helpful um
[01:07:16] music
[01:07:30] um
[01:07:36] [Applause]
[01:08:20] agenda
[01:08:43] um
[01:09:23] this is
[01:09:24] [Laughter]
[01:09:56] also
[01:10:06] [Applause]
[01:10:13] we
[01:10:14] all have
[01:10:39] [Music]
[01:10:41] [Laughter]
[01:10:52] let's not worry about it now because we
[01:10:54] just don't even know what's going to
[01:10:56] happen
[01:11:20] foreign
[01:11:34] [Applause]
[01:11:39] and it goes through the common in front
[01:11:41] of the townhouse
[01:11:47] it's not the angles it's actually the
[01:11:50] elevation
[01:11:51] needs to be
[01:12:07] several sites
[01:12:21] uh the again right on the comment was
[01:12:23] considered
[01:12:47] closer together
[01:13:15] on the comet
[01:13:24] we're gonna have to go back to them
[01:13:40] so
[01:13:41] we have to go back to them and see
[01:13:44] what they can come up
[01:13:53] yes
[01:13:54] at this point you're still in
[01:13:56] confidential mediation usda on funding
[01:14:13] so did you keep moving forward
[01:14:17] well once we're ready like it's got to
[01:14:19] be ready to go so that was why we asked
[01:14:21] you all to cause to have this
[01:14:22] conversation because we needed to have
[01:14:25] it in order to
[01:14:38] once you're out of confidential
[01:14:39] mediation
[01:14:48] [Applause]
[01:14:51] um
[01:15:09] meeting back last march
[01:15:12] last march yes
[01:15:14] i mean all of our meetings are posted
[01:15:16] there is the second in the fourth monday
[01:15:32] [Laughter]
[01:15:51] so
[01:16:06] um
[01:16:27] so the projects have changed
[01:16:30] my goodness
[01:16:31] seven eight years ago right yes
[01:16:34] it was like five point seven million
[01:16:36] dollars we were talking about one plant
[01:16:39] we didn't know whale right was
[01:16:40] completely out of compliance pretty much
[01:16:42] the day they turned thinking
[01:16:44] um
[01:16:46] you know um
[01:17:07] oh again
[01:17:20] um
[01:17:35] [Applause]
[01:17:39] uh
[01:17:56] no
[01:18:04] is
[01:18:17] [Applause]
[01:18:38] and
[01:18:41] is
[01:19:11] right
[01:19:48] yeah so
[01:19:50] so we've had several meetings about this
[01:19:52] and um i'm gonna kind of cut it short
[01:19:54] here
[01:19:55] again
[01:19:57] we now have to go back to the end of the
[01:19:58] year
[01:20:01] [Laughter]
[01:20:16] quickly
[01:20:31] is
[01:20:52] conversations
[01:21:00] okay
[01:21:08] we're doing what we're
[01:21:09] asked to do from the usda and that's
[01:21:12] what i'm going
[01:21:14] um
[01:21:39] no there was no decisions made all right
[01:21:42] there was there was no decisions made
[01:21:45] okay
[01:21:46] and when it comes to public opinion you
[01:21:48] can certainly listen to anyone's
[01:21:50] concerns but at the end of the day
[01:21:53] it will be the decision
[01:22:02] we certainly try to take everyone's
[01:22:04] concerns
[01:22:06] and feelings into
[01:22:08] you know
[01:22:16] um
[01:22:31] if it's on our property
[01:22:34] [Applause]
[01:22:38] okay
[01:22:41] again we have meetings the second and
[01:22:43] fourth monday of every month where we
[01:22:46] are ongoing and talking about this
[01:22:48] project
[01:22:50] okay
[01:23:02] i don't know what you're talking about
[01:23:03] sir
[01:23:10] [Applause]
[01:23:12] yes
[01:23:18] [Laughter]
[01:23:23] thank you again
[01:23:54] so you just need a motion to accept the
[01:23:57] recommendations
[01:24:03] um
[01:24:22] [Applause]
[01:24:26] thank you thank you
[01:24:30] keep coming back
[01:24:33] i said no i said no
[01:24:36] fine i'm not i'm not
[01:24:44] foreign
[01:24:56] [Music]
[01:25:01] um
[01:25:29] [Laughter]
[01:25:51] that make sense
[01:25:59] okay
[01:26:12] [Music]
[01:26:16] [Laughter]
[01:26:44] um
[01:27:08] uh
[01:27:22] um
[01:27:29] [Applause]
[01:27:33] okay
[01:27:44] [Laughter]
[01:27:57] i know
[01:28:48] um
[01:29:01] [Applause]
[01:29:26] [Music]
[01:30:10] um
[01:30:12] [Applause]
[01:30:30] last year
[01:30:40] is
[01:30:58] julie just said maybe
[01:31:25] rather than
[01:31:31] is
[01:31:50] so i know there's some out there
[01:31:53] and i don't that might be a question
[01:32:25] um
[01:32:53] marty you know so i said at our
[01:32:55] department meeting i'm like you know
[01:32:57] we didn't have some money
[01:32:59] if anybody has a capital i don't know
[01:33:02] anything maybe you're just not having
[01:33:03] any money
[01:33:04] but we could potentially do capital
[01:33:06] items
[01:33:08] [Applause]
[01:33:12] for a street sweeper because
[01:33:16] unfortunately broken and they have to go
[01:33:18] a long way down the street sleeping
[01:33:34] um
[01:33:37] so
[01:33:37] so there's that i mean that's that was
[01:33:39] the only request that came in ryan said
[01:33:41] something verbally about getting a
[01:33:43] digital sign over there
[01:33:45] you know if there's even an electricity
[01:33:46] out there i don't know i know i did it
[01:33:48] from
[01:34:02] i always kind of shake my head at the cd
[01:34:03] center in barry
[01:34:06] you know i'm always like
[01:34:30] right
[01:34:36] um
[01:34:40] [Applause]
[01:34:56] oh
[01:35:12] have
[01:35:14] five-year-olds
[01:35:29] um
[01:36:09] [Music]
[01:36:13] yes
[01:36:17] um
[01:36:43] [Laughter]
[01:36:55] um
[01:37:18] i have to shut off because it gets so
[01:37:20] loud
[01:37:25] [Music]
[01:38:15] that um be after the meeting the 27th
[01:38:42] yeah i know that's not for you it
[01:38:44] depends where you're at so i get it
[01:38:48] [Music]
[01:39:10] where we
[01:39:29] [Music]
[01:39:38] i ask
[01:39:52] you know eventually they start listening
[01:40:05] [Applause]
[01:40:13] um
[01:40:17] [Music]
[01:40:22] 284
[01:40:24] 800
[01:40:25] and 19 cents
[01:40:27] which is a regional recovery assistance
[01:40:29] program
[01:40:31] it's a
[01:40:32] it's a reimbursement based program
[01:40:39] um
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[01:41:11] um
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[01:41:28] uh
[01:41:58] i
[01:42:03] um
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[01:42:25] and there's sometimes
[01:42:31] [Applause]
[01:42:37] um
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[01:42:54] uncomfortable
[01:43:03] questions
[01:43:11] [Laughter]
[01:43:19] well maybe not but maybe we could have
[01:43:21] somebody
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[01:43:47] is
[01:44:04] [Laughter]
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[01:44:10] [Laughter]
[01:44:25] um
[01:44:26] [Laughter]
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[01:44:54] is
[01:45:03] there's a lot of construction going on
[01:45:04] in town and there's a lot of detail
[01:45:06] please be careful
[01:45:08] and our
[01:45:09] police department is doing their best to
[01:45:10] kill every detail they can
[01:45:13] some are up to 12 to 15 a day it's crazy
[01:45:16] because we have so much going on so um
[01:45:50] um
[01:46:01] [Laughter]
[01:46:05] um
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[01:46:23] please read our local articles
[01:46:36] um
[01:47:06] i have
[01:47:14] is
[01:47:34] just paying um
[01:47:36] prices
[01:47:39] um
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[01:47:54] um
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[01:48:14] just kind of
[01:48:18] [Laughter]
[01:48:29] you know
[01:48:57] um
[01:49:13] exactly what we do
[01:49:16] but again if there's other ideas out
[01:49:17] there i'd love to hear
[01:49:21] and that's
[01:49:26] it you
[01:49:52] [Laughter]
[01:50:09] uh