Municipal Operations, Financial Allocations, and Inter-Board Communication Initiatives

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[00:00:28] discussion and vote on a special
[00:00:30] election and uh actually I want to just
[00:00:32] take a couple of minutes here um or a
[00:00:36] couple of seconds not minutes I'm sorry
[00:00:38] just it's Monday oh man um bill um Bill
[00:00:43] Tinker is with us he's via Zoom right
[00:00:45] now because he is out in Boston the next
[00:00:48] couple of days he's going to be doing
[00:00:51] the citizens legislative seminar um at
[00:00:55] the state house so I just kind of wanted
[00:00:56] to acknowledge that for bill because I
[00:00:58] think that's pretty cool
[00:01:00] and um yeah he's out there representing
[00:01:02] Hardwick so I just wanted to make
[00:01:04] mention thank you
[00:01:06] Bill thank you all right now discussion
[00:01:09] and vote on um this a special election
[00:01:12] so we had our special town meeting and
[00:01:15] the article passed for the fire truck
[00:01:18] and now we need to go to a ballot vote
[00:01:21] correct correct okay so we're going to
[00:01:24] talk about maybe some times and when we
[00:01:27] think this is good to do
[00:01:30] my only question is did you get
[00:01:32] confirmation from Josh as to when the
[00:01:34] deadline is is the okay um he had said
[00:01:38] to me it has to be committed by the end
[00:01:40] of January okay yeah cuz I know there
[00:01:44] was some talk about you know waiting
[00:01:45] till the spring but then we're not
[00:01:47] guaranteed that we can still um get that
[00:01:51] truck for those funds once we have a
[00:01:55] ballot once that happens what else has
[00:01:58] to happen before
[00:02:00] we give them the okay is there any other
[00:02:04] stuff funding it going you know uh then
[00:02:08] the treasure collector and the town
[00:02:10] account will be working with our
[00:02:13] um with our financial advisor and
[00:02:16] pulling everything together um so we
[00:02:19] need maybe a couple weeks that's a good
[00:02:22] point
[00:02:25] probably um so I know when I was uh
[00:02:28] speaking with the town clerk he had
[00:02:30] suggested a Saturday would be would be
[00:02:32] best um and I don't want to speak for
[00:02:33] you if you want to go yeah I mean just
[00:02:36] like we did with the horse racing and
[00:02:38] where our town election is now you know
[00:02:40] I think Saturday just we don't have to
[00:02:42] worry about the school the school right
[00:02:43] and I think there's more people it just
[00:02:45] affords more people the opportunity to
[00:02:48] come up to come up I'll leave the hours
[00:02:50] up to you guys however you think I
[00:02:53] honestly don't think you should it's the
[00:02:54] winter time I don't think you should go
[00:02:55] past 6:00 if you want to go 12:00 to
[00:02:58] 6:00 can't open any later than noon 12
[00:03:00] to 6 10 to 6 I mean I'll leave that in
[00:03:02] in your court I think similar to like
[00:03:05] the racetrack we'll probably have a
[00:03:07] bunch of people all at once and then
[00:03:09] nothing so we have to have it open for a
[00:03:12] minimum of 4 hours okay so minimum of 4
[00:03:16] hours can't open later than noon those
[00:03:18] are the criteria 10 to 6 is perfect yeah
[00:03:21] I I yeah um also I mean you can
[00:03:26] certainly discuss it tonight but when
[00:03:28] you vote to hold it you need to you know
[00:03:31] she has the language you need to specify
[00:03:33] specifically what the question is yeah I
[00:03:35] we have it right here and I need that in
[00:03:36] writing so I actually I don't need like
[00:03:38] an email or you know I need that in
[00:03:40] writing that the board the select board
[00:03:42] is calling a special election on this
[00:03:45] date please place the following question
[00:03:47] on the ballot boom okay and um funding
[00:03:51] this because this will be obviously so
[00:03:54] I've got so I encumbered uh 2000 because
[00:04:00] I was concerned about ramp and and
[00:04:03] ability to get into the building the
[00:04:05] workaround I've got now is I'm going to
[00:04:07] be doing cameras at each entrance the
[00:04:09] secretary of state has told me that the
[00:04:12] doors are supposed to be unlocked so
[00:04:14] when the kids are there I you know
[00:04:16] they're not going to be there on Tuesday
[00:04:18] for election day but the the students
[00:04:19] will be the concern I have is the
[00:04:21] confusion go in the cafeteria one time
[00:04:24] go in the gymnasium the next time the
[00:04:27] point of all this roundabout is the fact
[00:04:29] that I don't need the entire 2,000 I
[00:04:31] only use a few hundred so I'll
[00:04:36] know by the end of that election what I
[00:04:38] will need for me presuming that I don't
[00:04:40] need anything else I'll know what I'll
[00:04:42] have left over whether or not we have to
[00:04:44] do a reserve fund right now it's
[00:04:46] probably if I had the guess and say
[00:04:48] maybe a grand that I might have to
[00:04:50] request but I'll know more okay so once
[00:04:53] this election is over we've got it we've
[00:04:55] got it I have it now the question will
[00:04:57] be how much is left over for May for
[00:04:59] Town elections and and the same thing
[00:05:01] with may you know what I you know
[00:05:03] depending upon races and things like
[00:05:05] that you know that would dictate that
[00:05:06] and the number of what the the coding
[00:05:09] for that machine and the and the
[00:05:12] tabulator is dictated or predicated upon
[00:05:14] how many races there are so just pull
[00:05:16] apart for this it's going to be between
[00:05:18] two and
[00:05:19] three
[00:05:22] thousand so did we have any dates that
[00:05:25] we were considering
[00:05:29] is there mail in voting for
[00:05:33] this so there there certainly could be
[00:05:35] unless there's a public hearing held
[00:05:37] within 45 days of whatever the date is
[00:05:39] in which they decide to opt out of it um
[00:05:43] we won't or I wouldn't recommend mailing
[00:05:45] them to everybody the application would
[00:05:46] certainly be on the website and if
[00:05:48] somebody did want to do so uh they could
[00:05:51] certainly submit it to me I don't think
[00:05:53] it'll be anything like this here so I I
[00:05:56] I I wouldn't say let's opt out I would
[00:05:58] just say let it an option think request
[00:06:02] it's not going to be a huge burden to me
[00:06:04] to meet that okay you were um pretty
[00:06:09] comfortable with January that was kind
[00:06:10] of the time frame you were think well
[00:06:12] hearing January 31 I think the thing I'm
[00:06:14] interpreting commitment meaning the town
[00:06:17] meeing vote and the people have voted
[00:06:19] yes and then it's the logistics of
[00:06:22] getting money to fund it right the thing
[00:06:24] is is you have those two parts of it I I
[00:06:26] don't want to speak to the V I would
[00:06:27] think it be like oh okay so should we
[00:06:29] set an early January date and then
[00:06:32] confirm with the vendor that that's what
[00:06:34] they need to secure it even if funding
[00:06:38] takes a couple of extra weeks I'm
[00:06:40] looking at like January 11th which is a
[00:06:43] Saturday that means voter registration
[00:06:45] on January 1 which is a holiday I get 10
[00:06:47] I need I have 10 days so um what about
[00:06:50] the 18th I would yeah I would I would
[00:06:53] prefer the 18th or the 21st just to stay
[00:06:55] away from the holidays and that gives us
[00:06:57] enough time you think we don't know when
[00:06:59] you have to do after well here's the
[00:07:01] thing right now you still have plenty of
[00:07:03] time I need 35 days so you can do all
[00:07:06] this now you can still vote on this in
[00:07:08] two weeks time and you have plenty of
[00:07:10] time I would prefer that you don't
[00:07:12] commit a date and a time tonight until
[00:07:14] you get those questions the confirmation
[00:07:16] from from the but you still you still
[00:07:18] have time to to call it so why don't we
[00:07:22] yeah we still have time why don't we
[00:07:23] tentatively say the
[00:07:25] 18th and get some confirmation from the
[00:07:28] vendor yeah
[00:07:30] I'm I'm comfortable with that bill I
[00:07:33] don't I'm fine with that you just got to
[00:07:34] you just got a holler and Hoot if you
[00:07:36] want to speak up I don't want you're not
[00:07:38] sitting here so I just don't want to
[00:07:40] forget about you that's okay I'm
[00:07:45] listening and I'll I'll reach out to the
[00:07:47] school to confirm it will be available
[00:07:49] if there were something they would push
[00:07:51] it off so shouldn't be a problem okay
[00:07:53] but yeah I would just wait on that shoot
[00:07:54] for that date and then if something
[00:07:56] needs to change then we can you know
[00:07:59] haveit from
[00:08:01] there we good okay so then we won't vote
[00:08:05] tonight we'll wait to vote at our next
[00:08:08] please
[00:08:12] okay thank you
[00:08:16] thanks I just wanted to surprise you all
[00:08:19] all a welcome Happy
[00:08:24] surprise okay next up uh affordable cars
[00:08:27] potential name change
[00:08:30] yes okay we have gesy car here on the
[00:08:33] property correct we'd like to change
[00:08:35] affordable to gesy car here okay uh why
[00:08:37] the name change gese car here has been
[00:08:39] my family business since 65 and my son
[00:08:42] recently passed away my other kids want
[00:08:43] to keep the name that we originally had
[00:08:46] which is the gby car care so you'd go
[00:08:49] from affordable cars to gesy Car Care
[00:08:52] and the reason we're asking now is cuz
[00:08:53] the rry renewal is now and if I pay for
[00:08:55] affordable I got to pay for a whole year
[00:08:57] for my workman's comp and everything
[00:08:58] else through the next year cuz they're
[00:08:59] not going to renew me like reimburse me
[00:09:01] if I change the name
[00:09:03] j so you're requesting it go to say the
[00:09:06] whole name again the Le be Car Care One
[00:09:09] Car Care what was the last word this is
[00:09:10] one it's like number one okay Care One
[00:09:14] nothing would change on the property the
[00:09:15] signs are just already up from gby car
[00:09:17] they're there okay so only different is
[00:09:19] Affordable sign would come down okay and
[00:09:21] I know um I know there was some concerns
[00:09:23] last year about it's cleaned up car okay
[00:09:26] yeah y I promise I clean it up and it's
[00:09:30] clean up okay I know um Paul's here he's
[00:09:34] the our building inspector now so I just
[00:09:36] if he wants to add to that the I come
[00:09:40] the vehicles today the only thing that
[00:09:43] my past experience with licensing board
[00:09:46] sets this number of vehicles they can
[00:09:48] have in the business I don't know if
[00:09:50] this have has been done on this location
[00:09:52] was was last year yeah so I don't know I
[00:09:55] don't have that number so I can't say I
[00:09:57] can't tell the board right now of Z in
[00:09:58] compliance I believe it was
[00:10:00] 10 it 10 I call the 21 cars in in the
[00:10:04] vicinity today how many call 21 Vehicles
[00:10:07] one had looked like it had
[00:10:10] plates nothing else had plates only one
[00:10:13] had plates only one had a plate can't
[00:10:14] tell you if it was valid or not CU was
[00:10:16] the front of the car yeah so you don't
[00:10:17] see the sticker but right that's so many
[00:10:19] vehicles that I observed in vinity the
[00:10:22] building both sides what not okay I
[00:10:25] believe we we came to 10 last year I I
[00:10:29] also believe yeah Bill do you have
[00:10:32] anything to
[00:10:33] add I do not no can not speak up now
[00:10:37] okay we have two businesses on the
[00:10:39] property the 21 cars okay unfortunately
[00:10:42] there customer cars Ryan owns two of
[00:10:43] them she owns three of them they're all
[00:10:45] customer Vehicles none of them are for
[00:10:46] sale so everything to the left if you
[00:10:49] look I don't know when you went up there
[00:10:50] but you look to the left where that one
[00:10:52] truck is I I saw D vehicle where the
[00:10:56] front truck is and the whole and I saw
[00:10:58] the vehicle still left of the barn and
[00:11:00] the right of the barn correct but the
[00:11:02] top part where the one truck is yeah
[00:11:05] that's where our display section is for
[00:11:06] the cars we're only allow 10 cars for
[00:11:07] sale and there's only one truck up there
[00:11:09] right now okay so the rest are being
[00:11:11] worked on yes okay
[00:11:14] um
[00:11:16] so you'll change your name through the
[00:11:19] registry yes or you already have
[00:11:21] Gillespie car gpie car here is already
[00:11:23] in the registry right we're it's going
[00:11:25] to transfer the address from where to
[00:11:26] that new address oh okay so you're
[00:11:29] you're currently operating in where I
[00:11:31] had a license in wear at one time okay
[00:11:33] and I never lost it I was still in you
[00:11:35] just came over here under
[00:11:37] affordable
[00:11:39] okay hard to keep track of it all we
[00:11:42] wonder that
[00:11:43] ourselves Madam chair ask a question
[00:11:45] yeah um I just have a question just
[00:11:48] because we are working on all of our
[00:11:49] licenses and renewals everything this
[00:11:51] week and everything's going out on
[00:11:52] Wednesday so I guess I guess my question
[00:11:54] was um we're literally mailing
[00:11:57] everything out on Wednesday
[00:12:00] um so I guess why it couldn't wait till
[00:12:03] Wednesday guess is my question uh
[00:12:06] because you'll be getting your packet
[00:12:07] and everything and there's a procedure
[00:12:08] on how to change um you know information
[00:12:10] that's wrong like if the manager changes
[00:12:12] or the name changes um so would they
[00:12:15] just do that on their renewal yes okay
[00:12:18] yeah okay I was asked how to do it and
[00:12:21] they told me to go to the board to do it
[00:12:22] so I don't know yeah I think the
[00:12:25] procedure at the time was unknown okay
[00:12:28] so if there's a means to do that on
[00:12:32] their renew okay then that then let's
[00:12:34] handle it that way okay is that okay
[00:12:36] with you that's mind there's I just
[00:12:38] don't know I asked a few months ago I
[00:12:40] mean that makes sense to me if that you
[00:12:42] know that because my next question was
[00:12:43] well how do we do that yeah so if it's
[00:12:46] if you're going to get your renewal
[00:12:48] which now you're going to go to the
[00:12:49] registry and do it there too so it will
[00:12:52] all kind of be done at the same time but
[00:12:54] isn't the renewal and affordable hardly
[00:12:57] so that's where on the on the front page
[00:13:00] you'll see I'm sorry the second page
[00:13:01] you'll see there's a place where if
[00:13:03] anything changed you would just have to
[00:13:06] change it right there and there's a
[00:13:07] comment section okay um so if the name
[00:13:09] CH or anything that's that's where you
[00:13:10] do it okay I've heard of things changing
[00:13:13] I know heard of the company name
[00:13:13] changing on that form yeah okay and if
[00:13:15] you have any questions when you're doing
[00:13:17] it like please call me or come by and
[00:13:19] I'll help you through it yeah all right
[00:13:21] okay so then we should be
[00:13:23] out okay great perfect
[00:13:29] all right discussion on elected and
[00:13:32] appoint appointed uh board
[00:13:37] Communications so I had some questions
[00:13:41] regarding this okay as far as um if
[00:13:45] other boards like say the planning board
[00:13:47] somebody comes before the planning board
[00:13:49] and wants to build something and there
[00:13:53] should be impact studies and stuff like
[00:13:56] that that the planning board would you
[00:13:59] know deem they have to do it or not um
[00:14:04] and I'm just
[00:14:05] wondering this communication if there
[00:14:08] were studies and stuff impacts to the
[00:14:10] town how come that hasn't been forwarded
[00:14:13] to the select
[00:14:15] board or set up a communication where if
[00:14:20] something comes before the planning
[00:14:21] board that will impact the town that
[00:14:23] they bring it to the select board so the
[00:14:26] select board is aware of it
[00:14:29] well can I sure it normally goes uh if
[00:14:34] it's a site assignment a site site plan
[00:14:38] review um permits things like that
[00:14:41] they'll go to they get copied to the
[00:14:44] Conservation Commission or the Board of
[00:14:46] Health or you know anything that the
[00:14:49] planning board feels it should go to but
[00:14:53] they can I'm sure they wouldn't mind
[00:14:55] sending to the select board too it's a
[00:14:57] question of what what you think an
[00:15:00] impact would
[00:15:01] be well um an example would be like
[00:15:05] Eagle Hill and all the housing they're
[00:15:07] developing right now and I'm not sure
[00:15:09] exactly what the housing is but if it's
[00:15:11] for staff and if those staff have
[00:15:14] families and those kids are going to
[00:15:16] attend our public school there's an
[00:15:19] impact but that didn't that wouldn't
[00:15:21] come before the planning
[00:15:24] board what housing wouldn't come before
[00:15:26] the planning board not at the school I
[00:15:28] don't believe no building
[00:15:31] permit it would be zoning in a building
[00:15:35] permit they the exemp from zoning is the
[00:15:38] way I always understood
[00:15:40] it they didn't come in and ask to do
[00:15:44] it so well my understanding and maybe
[00:15:47] I'm wrong here but they're not exempt
[00:15:51] they they do have the do Amendment where
[00:15:53] they're allowed to build but certain
[00:15:56] things under 121 Master General law
[00:15:59] where it's Redevelopment and that would
[00:16:01] be Redevelopment of land because it's
[00:16:03] agricultural
[00:16:05] 60
[00:16:07] um that would be there would be impacts
[00:16:09] to the town and they need to bring that
[00:16:13] forward mam chair do you think we should
[00:16:16] check with our building
[00:16:17] inspector
[00:16:21] um
[00:16:23] um no matter what they have they have to
[00:16:27] apply for a permit to build some
[00:16:28] something anywhere right the BW says
[00:16:32] it's got to go to the planning board for
[00:16:33] site plan review that's where it goes
[00:16:37] not necessarily anything for special
[00:16:39] permanent because of the do mment
[00:16:43] ramifications but should be reviewed by
[00:16:48] safely
[00:16:52] sorry well that's it's a good idea it's
[00:16:55] not hasn't been sorry that whole
[00:17:00] uh Sports Complex went up I don't think
[00:17:03] there
[00:17:04] was much here municipal office
[00:17:08] building we just go ahead and do
[00:17:11] it but they still pull permits for that
[00:17:14] stuff well and the yeah all the water
[00:17:16] and things like that
[00:17:18] sewer I mean um in the commercial in M
[00:17:22] shs you know both the fire department
[00:17:24] and myself that type of uses you know we
[00:17:27] have to look at fire department access
[00:17:29] right 18 yeah yes they have to
[00:17:31] demonstrate what the fire
[00:17:33] production requirements are going to be
[00:17:35] so they come before the town in some
[00:17:37] capacity correct they're not just up
[00:17:39] there
[00:17:41] building you know to build um so I
[00:17:46] so um and I don't mean to single out
[00:17:49] Eagle Hill here as an example yeah but
[00:17:53] it could be any nonprofit come into town
[00:17:55] acquire land and then if they foric
[00:17:59] their ta their tax exempt and Zoning
[00:18:02] exempt they can build whatever they want
[00:18:04] yeah
[00:18:06] IM and I I me personally I mean I I
[00:18:10] really believe that you know an impact
[00:18:13] through the planning board an impact
[00:18:15] study or something that says hey this is
[00:18:17] going to impact the town this way you're
[00:18:20] going to need increased police or you're
[00:18:21] going to need increased fire you're
[00:18:23] going to need ambulance something along
[00:18:26] those lines and that that should come
[00:18:28] for the select board or the select board
[00:18:30] should be at least made aware of this um
[00:18:34] yeah I think you're go ahead just I just
[00:18:36] got informed uh via Eric Fleming that EA
[00:18:39] Hill Jim went through site plan
[00:18:42] review so it is the planning board is
[00:18:45] the gate yeah and did the planning board
[00:18:49] pass that on to the select board when
[00:18:51] they did the gym I don't think
[00:18:53] so I wasn't a selectman when they did
[00:18:55] the gym I wasn't either so I guess like
[00:19:00] every board and committee you know they
[00:19:02] have their specific charge but how
[00:19:04] what's the best way for each board and
[00:19:06] committee to communicate with each other
[00:19:08] so there's no surprises like when
[00:19:09] something does come to select board it's
[00:19:11] not a surprise that it's been all these
[00:19:13] other places so it's like how can we
[00:19:15] make sure that you know this board and
[00:19:17] other boards and we have you know proper
[00:19:19] communication should go to
[00:19:20] you if you wanted to I mean I I get a
[00:19:23] lot like I I mean a lot of stuff does
[00:19:26] you know come to my Emil I get where
[00:19:27] you're coming from Bill I just I don't
[00:19:29] as a board I don't want us to be
[00:19:31] micromanaging other commissions boards
[00:19:34] and
[00:19:35] committees not I'm only talking about
[00:19:38] costs and services will impct the town
[00:19:41] citizens
[00:19:43] um I mean I guess we could put out I
[00:19:47] mean this should be in the planning
[00:19:49] board's wheelhouse they should you know
[00:19:52] they should have these studies and and
[00:19:54] realize what is what is the impact to
[00:19:56] the town and pass it on or at least pass
[00:19:59] the communication along to the
[00:20:02] select I
[00:20:05] agree yeah
[00:20:08] um Bill not you Bill sorry no bill ziny
[00:20:12] sorry yeah I don't know how useful it is
[00:20:14] but you know we've wrestled with this
[00:20:15] and we've talked to other boards like
[00:20:17] winning um just about resurrecting some
[00:20:21] kind of um tracking sheet checklist
[00:20:25] right you know and some of you dealt
[00:20:27] with it years ago and then
[00:20:29] you know it kind of faded out I guess
[00:20:31] just for communicating just for the
[00:20:32] purpose other people would have to go to
[00:20:34] each board and get a signature or get it
[00:20:37] signed off that they went to that board
[00:20:38] so each board knows kind of like what's
[00:20:40] going on even if the board doesn't have
[00:20:43] want to have anything to do with it it's
[00:20:45] just at least we know at least you know
[00:20:48] who am you know yeah yeah that they've
[00:20:50] been sent to each board just to check in
[00:20:53] could come to you and that would save a
[00:20:55] lot of time I don't know we had a few
[00:20:57] examples but we never got that well we
[00:20:59] had a joint meeting you were here like
[00:21:02] two years three years I I don't know
[00:21:04] before or after we've done it several
[00:21:05] times yeah but we did discuss that
[00:21:08] because it does make a difference
[00:21:10] because sometimes someone goes to go
[00:21:12] build a house and we're in Wetland so
[00:21:15] well I didn't know you I have to do that
[00:21:17] you have his checklist and you all
[00:21:20] the that you need to go to right but
[00:21:23] then everyone and then it goes to the
[00:21:24] suck board so they do know but we did
[00:21:27] meet we had few examples and then we
[00:21:29] never really condensed them or settled
[00:21:31] on anything you
[00:21:34] know can we look at that can we yeah
[00:21:37] kind of like a special event form yeah
[00:21:40] another special event form yeah kind of
[00:21:42] well I send it to us we could all look
[00:21:45] at it and no we do we did but then
[00:21:48] things other I remember seeing something
[00:21:51] like I remember seeing we we did have
[00:21:53] some meetings in this room but then
[00:21:55] there were other big issues PA had
[00:21:58] something years ago yeah and I I think
[00:22:00] even even even um I thought Luc Senda at
[00:22:05] one point dug some old form out for us
[00:22:07] to consider an add to the pile you know
[00:22:09] we had three or four examples but I have
[00:22:12] in a folder I have some could you get
[00:22:14] that over to Justine and then we well we
[00:22:16] can work we want input from all TW right
[00:22:19] and the building inspect yeah right yeah
[00:22:23] and what would work for everyone yeah
[00:22:25] that's you know then just disperse it so
[00:22:27] that every has just like the special
[00:22:30] events form and provide feedback Paul
[00:22:32] did you have something I I would further
[00:22:35] elaborate following some a lot of towns
[00:22:38] go go this rout certain certain
[00:22:42] points um most important one that I've
[00:22:46] seen you know when you go to the Board
[00:22:47] of Health what are they going to do
[00:22:49] about trash already in the water you
[00:22:51] know what I mean this it opens the door
[00:22:53] to ask
[00:22:55] questions okay I don't know how has done
[00:22:59] this but some communities have adopted
[00:23:01] the state law that says that you have if
[00:23:04] they're in L of if you're behind in
[00:23:06] taxes you're not entitled to a per so
[00:23:09] some communities have adopted that in
[00:23:11] their town in their town so some
[00:23:15] communities have grown
[00:23:17] up part of the process is to go see the
[00:23:20] collective treasur to sign off yeah yeah
[00:23:23] as uh as uniquely as it is like uh our
[00:23:27] experience in milber both myself and um
[00:23:31] Justine that was the process you know
[00:23:34] the we had people that were in man to
[00:23:38] collect the treas eight bucks on a SE
[00:23:41] bill you all the money yeah the law says
[00:23:43] you're not entitled to anything unless
[00:23:46] unless unless like we we pointed out to
[00:23:49] the found manag one of the things is the
[00:23:51] guy the person's roof is leaking we got
[00:23:54] to let them happen you know what I mean
[00:23:56] that's a resp you know it turns on yeah
[00:23:59] one of those gray areas but planed
[00:24:01] construction and the're behind in the
[00:24:03] taxes right so that's something the end
[00:24:06] the step process you like we eventually
[00:24:10] went from the papers set up to the
[00:24:12] online permitting yeah on the online
[00:24:15] permit it just everybody gets notified
[00:24:17] you want it to be toloy yeah you go so
[00:24:19] they have to kind of click and sign off
[00:24:21] their clicks go down and when I see
[00:24:23] everybody elide me online there I'm free
[00:24:25] to issue the per I like that but that's
[00:24:28] it's expensive that's some of the
[00:24:29] benefits I me I know we're not we're
[00:24:31] probably not going to get online
[00:24:34] permitting anytime soon but we can move
[00:24:37] towards it some of the benefits are up
[00:24:39] there Ryan chair I was just going to say
[00:24:42] very similar I mean I remember I think
[00:24:44] some of the other forms with the 61a
[00:24:46] when people were taking them out it
[00:24:47] would have to pass through you know
[00:24:49] before the select would sign off on it
[00:24:51] and have to run through conservation
[00:24:52] assessors everybody else see or Parks
[00:24:54] and Rec see if there's any interest when
[00:24:56] I do my dbas I copy the assessor I copy
[00:24:59] the board of health I copy the planning
[00:25:00] board I copy the fire department I copy
[00:25:03] the building inspector I can copy you
[00:25:05] guys if you want cuz all that that's
[00:25:07] right there it's a notice it's like hey
[00:25:09] I'm excuse I'm doing I'm doing a visit
[00:25:12] I'm doing yogurt at this place and so
[00:25:14] the Board of Health might be like well I
[00:25:16] don't have a permit or a license for
[00:25:18] this address here and give them a call
[00:25:19] so D excuse me do business DB doing I'm
[00:25:24] sorry doing business as uh masteral Law
[00:25:27] chapter 110 setion five and it's not a
[00:25:30] it's not everybody calls it a license it
[00:25:33] is a certificate it is basically just a
[00:25:36] notification that someone is doing
[00:25:38] business under something under than
[00:25:40] their own name and I have the contact
[00:25:43] information that way if there's a
[00:25:44] complaint under Chapter 93 consumer
[00:25:46] protection people can reach out it's not
[00:25:48] a license Banks want it to before
[00:25:50] they'll they'll set up an account if and
[00:25:52] the thing is is I'm really not a judge
[00:25:54] on it I'm the repository I had this with
[00:25:57] the with the with institution it's like
[00:25:59] you want to file it you can file it I
[00:26:01] don't think you have to but you know
[00:26:03] we'll take the 35 bucks for four years
[00:26:05] and move on that's just to say with Ryan
[00:26:09] that's a common practice in most local
[00:26:12] governments I all the ones I was working
[00:26:14] for the application we get from the
[00:26:16] clerk and they verify that the the
[00:26:20] collect of Treasury make sure you you're
[00:26:22] a good standing and then they would go
[00:26:23] to the building inspective from zoning
[00:26:26] purposes you know especially for a new
[00:26:29] one yeah and then those signatures on
[00:26:31] the that further assist the town clerk
[00:26:36] say up you met all the criteria for me
[00:26:38] to go from that but it might be I could
[00:26:41] also too
[00:26:42] um just a payback what you said I can
[00:26:44] also put out my list Ser uh the
[00:26:46] manager's list Ser any small towns who
[00:26:48] don't have online permitting you know
[00:26:50] what checklist or what do you use I can
[00:26:52] also put that out then we can try to get
[00:26:54] a couple of different variations
[00:26:58] Paul has an example or two from some of
[00:27:00] his other towns yeah well the biggest
[00:27:03] thing in L in heal
[00:27:05] conservation
[00:27:06] the um the big big thing is when I
[00:27:11] somebody comes in and goes have you got
[00:27:12] a clearance from there they did they
[00:27:14] file a uh notice of applicability to
[00:27:17] take their time to speak with and they
[00:27:19] if they have a form like some of the
[00:27:21] towns uses a carbonless three thing and
[00:27:24] somebody's gone out and checked it yeah
[00:27:26] you're more than 100 ft you're out of
[00:27:27] and paperwork goes to me I don't have to
[00:27:29] bother again but it's in my files okay
[00:27:32] that's a good tool but yeah uh Board of
[00:27:35] Health I mean most common things we're
[00:27:38] all pretty much in wealth I one of the
[00:27:41] things I know if they're working around
[00:27:42] they're going to do some new well
[00:27:44] regulations and it helped clarify a lot
[00:27:47] of it uh I know they're working on that
[00:27:50] and yeah my part of the building code
[00:27:53] basically says that I have to know what
[00:27:56] you're going to do you you it's going to
[00:27:59] be water you got the permit in the well
[00:28:02] y you got a septic system design yep you
[00:28:06] know your Lots the right size from zon
[00:28:08] yep you're pretty much ready to go from
[00:28:11] perit there but it's a jigsaw puzzle for
[00:28:14] municipalities
[00:28:16] to uh locally get involved and set up
[00:28:22] the checks and balances no I think
[00:28:24] especially when we're in you know you
[00:28:26] our Subway offices par time right and so
[00:28:29] it's not always someone to that you can
[00:28:31] just run down the hall and and talk to
[00:28:34] so if they had that checklist it would
[00:28:36] be a lot of waiting or delays or so Bill
[00:28:40] what do you think about that I I think
[00:28:43] anything we do is going to be good yeah
[00:28:46] well let's start be an improvement let's
[00:28:49] start with that and then we can maybe uh
[00:28:51] look take a look at it together at our
[00:28:53] next meeting yeah what you like what we
[00:28:56] yeah okay
[00:29:01] thanks ran you're
[00:29:03] welcome okay um so that's good
[00:29:07] discussion and possible vote on Hardwick
[00:29:10] New brain tree cultural Council
[00:29:13] appointments so I just added this to the
[00:29:15] agenda or uh because the Hardwick New
[00:29:18] Branch cultural Council are reached out
[00:29:20] they're looking for members and I didn't
[00:29:22] know if anyone on the board if anyone in
[00:29:24] mind I'm going to put it on the website
[00:29:26] but I didn't know if there was anyone in
[00:29:27] mind that I can reach out to to
[00:29:29] see who may be interested in this we
[00:29:32] actually did talk to a couple of people
[00:29:34] and I don't unfortunately that was worth
[00:29:36] a ask
[00:29:38] yeah so if any if anyone's interested oh
[00:29:42] will to oh is Liz Riley is
[00:29:45] interested can we make an appointment
[00:29:47] right now oh be
[00:29:52] great then gets warn up
[00:29:59] r i l e y no it's re e i l l y yeah it's
[00:30:06] Elizabeth is okay
[00:30:08] yeah
[00:30:10] fantastic want to make a motion to
[00:30:12] appoint I move that we appoint Elizabeth
[00:30:16] Riley to the executive
[00:30:21] board Hardwick cultural
[00:30:24] Council um
[00:30:30] yeah motion second uh any other
[00:30:33] discussion okay all in favor good hi hi
[00:30:37] you have to say your name Bill and say I
[00:30:40] okay because you're on Zoom William
[00:30:41] Tinker I thank
[00:30:46] you okay discussion and possible vote on
[00:30:49] thank you
[00:30:50] Liz thank
[00:30:53] you for the uh Barry hardwood Council on
[00:30:57] Aging executive
[00:30:59] board um so just like the um harick and
[00:31:02] BR culture Council uh Barry COA reached
[00:31:06] out looking for Hardwick members on
[00:31:08] their executive board I have been to one
[00:31:11] of their meetings so far and we
[00:31:12] definitely need some more Hardwick
[00:31:14] representation so again I just wanted to
[00:31:17] put it out there um to see if any if you
[00:31:19] knew of anyone that would be interested
[00:31:21] or anyone in this
[00:31:24] room okay well it's out there and are we
[00:31:26] going to put it up on the site
[00:31:36] perfect uh appointment for the master
[00:31:39] plan steering committee April
[00:31:44] grandinetti so I see her letter in here
[00:31:47] and I also see that the planning board
[00:31:50] is asking us
[00:31:52] and um the master steering committee
[00:31:57] also recommend
[00:31:59] um master plan steering committee also
[00:32:03] recommended um April granded to
[00:32:06] the
[00:32:08] committee I move that we uh appoint
[00:32:11] April
[00:32:12] grandinetti to the master plan steering
[00:32:15] committee secondment okay any other
[00:32:19] discussion all in favor I I William
[00:32:24] Tinker I thank you all right we Water
[00:32:28] Treatment Plant assistant chief operator
[00:32:31] appointment we have
[00:32:34] one so we interviewed myself and the um
[00:32:39] Wastewater superintendent we interviewed
[00:32:41] three candidates one of them being an
[00:32:42] internal candidate um we did land on Dan
[00:32:46] Studley we checked his references um and
[00:32:48] he is willing to start next Monday
[00:32:51] excellent everything checked out
[00:32:53] excellent I think we should appoint him
[00:32:56] yes
[00:32:58] I move that we appoint Dan
[00:33:01] Studley assistant chief
[00:33:04] operator sorry I will second it okay any
[00:33:08] other
[00:33:09] discussion all those in favor I I
[00:33:13] William Tinker
[00:33:15] I okay discussion uh and vote on
[00:33:19] remaining arpa
[00:33:23] balance so um I attached the spread
[00:33:27] sheet that I received from the town
[00:33:29] accountant um if you see the balance it
[00:33:31] is 52,000 but 40 of that the board of
[00:33:35] selectman did vote uh to commit to the
[00:33:38] uh the barn roof so that would leave
[00:33:40] about
[00:33:41] $112,000 left in arpa um I'm coming to
[00:33:46] you to request to use that the rest of
[00:33:48] the remaining balance towards um the
[00:33:51] Gilbertville hydrant system and the
[00:33:53] water leak that um we've been dealing
[00:33:56] with for the last several months
[00:33:58] um it's it's
[00:34:01] about just in materials it's been about
[00:34:03] $5,200 so far um so just to leave some
[00:34:06] room if anything else comes up um I'm
[00:34:08] asking the board to um let us use the
[00:34:11] rest of that money towards the Gilbert
[00:34:13] bill um water leak and hydrants we have
[00:34:16] to use that by December anyway December
[00:34:18] 31st
[00:34:21] yes I'm okay with that
[00:34:23] bill um well
[00:34:29] if we could use that money or or split
[00:34:31] some of that money and to hire a grant
[00:34:34] writer for the town I think that would
[00:34:36] be very helpful I mean I know we have
[00:34:41] the water hydrants and we have issues
[00:34:43] but if we could apply some of it to a
[00:34:46] grant riter so there's only 12,000 left
[00:34:50] not sure we're getting a grant riter
[00:34:52] for well you could probably get a grant
[00:34:54] riter for six grand um but
[00:34:58] it it was just talk it was it was
[00:34:59] consideration of possibly doing that so
[00:35:02] so myself and Mr valheim um applying for
[00:35:06] a grant for a grant riter through the
[00:35:07] MVP program um for FY 26 so I don't know
[00:35:11] if that's going to go through or if
[00:35:12] that's going to happen yet but I talked
[00:35:14] to him today okay so and they he
[00:35:17] specified that it would be better to put
[00:35:19] in for a contract yes Grant letter than
[00:35:23] than an appointment position but um I'll
[00:35:27] be talking to him again on Wednesday and
[00:35:28] we should talk to him before then okay
[00:35:32] we're working on it and that's way down
[00:35:34] the line yeah it's applying for a grant
[00:35:37] to get a grant writer is going to take a
[00:35:39] long
[00:35:41] time lenda um at the capital planning
[00:35:44] meeting we spoke uh we made a list of
[00:35:46] things to be addressed and there are
[00:35:49] pine trees behind this building that
[00:35:52] need to come down before they are blown
[00:35:54] down onto this building so that's that's
[00:35:57] an idea it's going to be expensive but
[00:35:59] it might you know so I did ask um I'm
[00:36:02] sorry May yeah um I did ask our Highway
[00:36:06] superintendent um to get me a quote on
[00:36:08] how much that is going to cost so I'm
[00:36:09] waiting for him on that so it's
[00:36:11] definitely on our radar um but I just
[00:36:13] don't think out of it's going to be um I
[00:36:17] just don't think it it's going to come
[00:36:18] from ARA at this point unless the board
[00:36:20] would like to reallocate those my
[00:36:23] request yeah I I mean I do know the fire
[00:36:26] hydrant and the water source has been um
[00:36:30] a concern I need to have an executive
[00:36:33] session about that or I can start
[00:36:35] talking about it now but I think we
[00:36:38] might get in
[00:36:41] trouble okay um I tried to have one
[00:36:45] tonight but it didn't work
[00:36:47] out no
[00:36:49] uh
[00:36:51] right we can
[00:36:54] yeah maybe Justine can explain that
[00:36:56] after
[00:36:58] um I I I I'm happy to take a vote and
[00:37:03] see where it lands I um I know that the
[00:37:06] the hydrants have been a big concern I
[00:37:08] know we've repaired some um with early
[00:37:14] funds but
[00:37:18] um Eric go ahead could we do we know
[00:37:22] where we would go to look for a a
[00:37:25] short-term grant writer um
[00:37:28] I mean if you could get if we could get
[00:37:29] one for
[00:37:31] 6,000 what would that mean you know when
[00:37:34] and how much
[00:37:36] and do we have any
[00:37:38] leads off the top of my head no I do
[00:37:43] not I do not but you
[00:37:46] know my my question also is this money
[00:37:50] don't you have some of this money air
[00:37:51] marked in Grant or something in at the
[00:37:53] state house already to fix the hydrant
[00:37:56] yes I do
[00:37:59] um yes I do um there're being the local
[00:38:03] ear marks were held up um I don't know
[00:38:05] when um we're going to have access to
[00:38:08] the money or if the governor is going to
[00:38:09] cut them at this point I was hoping to
[00:38:11] hear something before the election now
[00:38:13] looks like it's going to be after um so
[00:38:15] unfortunately I don't I don't have any
[00:38:18] answers um as when when we're going to
[00:38:20] see those funds if we are um but we did
[00:38:22] get those ear marks I also um I just
[00:38:26] heard that the Senate
[00:38:28] um just voted they're going to do um a
[00:38:31] special uh session now that the formal
[00:38:33] session is over they want to go back
[00:38:35] into um formal session and look at the
[00:38:38] economic Bond bill I did put some ear
[00:38:41] marks in through Senator uh Durant's
[00:38:43] office in the economic Bond Bill also
[00:38:45] for hydrants hydrants and street lights
[00:38:48] um but again unfortunately that those
[00:38:50] are guaranteed uh we're not guaranteed
[00:38:53] to get that trying every Avenue possible
[00:38:55] uh but we do again like I said we have
[00:38:57] that leak going on right now um we're
[00:38:59] using gallons of water a day um so I'm
[00:39:03] just trying to mitigate any any more
[00:39:05] disaster than me are currently
[00:39:08] experiencing you do you need all of the
[00:39:10] 12,000 to resolve this
[00:39:13] problem I'm thinking it's going to be
[00:39:15] around 11: um when all is said and done
[00:39:19] um
[00:39:29] now also there was talk about um
[00:39:32] possibly finding out was this damage
[00:39:35] during the construction was this caused
[00:39:38] during the construction of the
[00:39:39] Improvement of the roadway um so I did
[00:39:42] reach out to our fire chief and our
[00:39:44] Highway superintendent um and they
[00:39:46] didn't know anything about that they
[00:39:48] said it could have been um appar
[00:39:53] allegedly the work was done over a year
[00:39:55] ago I'm being told um and that it would
[00:39:58] be hard to hold them accountable for
[00:40:01] that um from what I've heard from the
[00:40:03] fire chief and the highway
[00:40:04] superintendent but they don't know if or
[00:40:07] have any idea if that was the
[00:40:10] cause me you good um I know where the
[00:40:14] clerk of the works has his office uh
[00:40:17] there was a clerk of the works there was
[00:40:20] trouble uh our fire chief before Josh
[00:40:25] still has some problems with with some
[00:40:28] elevations there were at that meeting at
[00:40:31] the Capitol planning and Bill was there
[00:40:34] uh there was talk about serious damage
[00:40:36] to houses so I I think not using any
[00:40:42] names I think we need to discuss this
[00:40:45] before too much time goes by cuz then it
[00:40:47] will be impossible to retrieve but we're
[00:40:50] certainly within you know the the time
[00:40:54] frame where we can look at what happened
[00:40:58] have residents come forth they haven't
[00:41:00] come to me but it came up at the meeting
[00:41:03] yes there were there have been people
[00:41:05] complaining and I don't have anyone
[00:41:07] that's been complaining in my office and
[00:41:09] you weren't at the meeting so I can't I
[00:41:11] can't remember who said that but it came
[00:41:14] out
[00:41:15] of local so I I think I'm just asking
[00:41:20] that we investigate it we can find out
[00:41:24] when the pumping had to start cuz that's
[00:41:26] all in
[00:41:28] you know time cards for the fire
[00:41:30] department there there's I just don't
[00:41:33] want to let it go
[00:41:36] away it could be very expensive I don't
[00:41:38] want to have to pay for
[00:41:48] it for here I would Mo I'd make a motion
[00:41:52] to use the ARP funds toward the uh fire
[00:41:55] agin for now
[00:41:58] second the
[00:42:01] motion thank you motion and seconded any
[00:42:04] other
[00:42:05] discussion all those in favor I I thank
[00:42:08] you William Tinker
[00:42:11] I okay I guess we can yeah oh I'm sorry
[00:42:16] to go ahead there was one other thing
[00:42:18] under ARA I apologize that's okay
[00:42:21] um I received an invoice from uh the
[00:42:25] town accountant for Tree Service
[00:42:27] um it's also in your packet it's uh
[00:42:31] $250 um it came in and it was sent to
[00:42:36] the wrong account and the wrong fire
[00:42:38] chief so we're adjusting it now um and I
[00:42:40] would also like to include this in the
[00:42:44] um in the money for for arpa um it was
[00:42:48] can we do that being prior year yep I
[00:42:50] did check with the town accountant and
[00:42:52] she said that was the her recommendation
[00:42:54] have to go to meeting okay
[00:42:58] do we want to make another motion or yes
[00:43:00] please I move that we pay the uh tree
[00:43:04] bill from bound tree with some of the or
[00:43:09] funds I'll second the motion all those
[00:43:13] any other discussion sorry all those in
[00:43:16] favor I I thank you William Tinker I
[00:43:30] okay discussion on conservation
[00:43:31] restriction with East Cobin Land Trust
[00:43:34] Madam uh I have to leave okay I'm not
[00:43:37] allowed to be here okay um I'm also
[00:43:41] noticing that a discussion on payment in
[00:43:44] L of tax policy yes is not a vote
[00:43:47] tonight so I'll still have a chance to
[00:43:49] discuss this yeah absolutely yep yep
[00:43:52] okay than good
[00:43:55] okay also one is is has nothing to do
[00:43:58] with the other no the the discussion of
[00:44:01] payment policy or no I think he's I
[00:44:03] think he's reusing himself from the East
[00:44:05] quab and land trust discussion right
[00:44:07] right right but I'm going to I'm just
[00:44:09] going to leave he he'll be back for the
[00:44:12] pilot discussion not tonight oh not
[00:44:15] tonight oh okay I just want to make sure
[00:44:18] I don't miss the vote oh okay no we're
[00:44:20] not voting thank you yes yes yes yes I
[00:44:23] now I'm understanding okay sorry
[00:44:28] ah I was a little confused
[00:44:33] there you can give lou ride home
[00:44:36] probably have a good night thank you I'm
[00:44:39] sure someone here is more than willing
[00:44:41] if
[00:44:42] you thank you AR thank you
[00:44:54] ma'am where where should we start um
[00:44:57] well we kind of started it by approving
[00:45:00] well we we
[00:45:02] approved this conservation restriction
[00:45:05] to recommend it to the select board that
[00:45:08] it be considered for acceptance and
[00:45:09] passed it on to you so Conservation
[00:45:12] Commission I just want to start with um
[00:45:14] I sent to the board today um council's
[00:45:17] feedback so the board has that correct
[00:45:20] um if you want to start the conversation
[00:45:22] with council's
[00:45:24] yeah um fa I have a copy of if you want
[00:45:28] it I've got yeah no I've got it I've got
[00:45:30] it so I think our big concerns um
[00:45:33] walking out of the last meeting were
[00:45:35] what the liability to the town what that
[00:45:38] means to the town and you also mentioned
[00:45:40] that you had several others that were
[00:45:42] coming our way um at some point we have
[00:45:47] to look at that liability to the town
[00:45:50] because it definitely becomes a
[00:45:51] liability to the town the more and more
[00:45:53] of these that get accepted what I think
[00:45:57] if you um review the language on the
[00:45:59] disclaimer of liability here I've
[00:46:01] reviewed it all okay I've reviewed it
[00:46:03] all um and so where does the concern
[00:46:06] come because it specifically says the
[00:46:08] grantee does not undertake any liability
[00:46:11] or obligation related to the conditions
[00:46:12] of the premises so that is not the
[00:46:15] opinion of Town Council um any any
[00:46:18] accident that happened on it any
[00:46:20] incident that happened on any harm to
[00:46:21] someone that happened on it uh we would
[00:46:24] certainly be dragged into that and
[00:46:27] they're also suggesting making sure that
[00:46:28] our insurance is aware is aware of each
[00:46:31] and every every one of these properties
[00:46:34] and we're looking liability follows a
[00:46:37] policy holder wherever you go like your
[00:46:39] liability covers you if you're in
[00:46:40] Zimbabwe and something happens you know
[00:46:43] your personal liability covers I want to
[00:46:45] make sure that there's not an extra cost
[00:46:47] for that too so I know Justine reached
[00:46:50] out and the Town Council also
[00:46:52] understands that there's a Massachusetts
[00:46:54] recreational youth statute that um means
[00:46:57] that when you're not charging for people
[00:46:58] to be there and so they're still
[00:47:00] concerned about liability yes and I mean
[00:47:02] she even mentioned that of course as a
[00:47:05] as a municipality we would fall
[00:47:07] underneath that y abs and municip isn't
[00:47:11] even the owner of the property this is
[00:47:13] this is just holding the development
[00:47:14] rights essentially on the property so
[00:47:17] the town is very very removed from any
[00:47:20] potential liability the East Quin land
[00:47:21] trust that has the liability as the land
[00:47:23] owner I'm not I'm going to disagree with
[00:47:25] you because I I don't at the end of the
[00:47:28] day if something were to happen on a
[00:47:30] property that we have a conservation
[00:47:33] restriction on and now the
[00:47:36] Conservation Commission is overseeing
[00:47:39] part of that we're definitely
[00:47:42] involved and we will be dragged in so
[00:47:46] again I'm all for open
[00:47:49] space I I get it the problem is our town
[00:47:53] has a lot of open space that is not on
[00:47:56] the to tax roll now anymore but again
[00:47:58] we're talking about just a conservation
[00:47:59] restriction we're not talking about tax
[00:48:01] roll component at all we're not talking
[00:48:03] about money here okay but do you gain
[00:48:05] money putting the conservation
[00:48:07] restriction on it no you don't get any
[00:48:10] we don't get compensated for this we're
[00:48:12] doing a I mean the whole point of the
[00:48:14] conservation restriction is for the
[00:48:16] public benefit because there is benefit
[00:48:17] in having open space within the
[00:48:19] community people want to live in the
[00:48:21] community um all kinds of reasons I know
[00:48:24] I know they they've brought forth
[00:48:25] materials and and shared it um you know
[00:48:28] with select board members so we can go
[00:48:30] through all those again but no this is
[00:48:32] not a there's no money making happening
[00:48:35] here we're doing we're a nonprofit
[00:48:37] organization we were set up by people
[00:48:40] who were who started from the Hardwick
[00:48:42] open space Committee in
[00:48:44] 1993 one of the key findings there was
[00:48:47] that because the town was not able to do
[00:48:50] its mission of protecting open space
[00:48:52] that another organization needed to be
[00:48:54] set up that's exactly why these founders
[00:48:57] um you know set up the organization and
[00:48:59] we're continuing with that because we
[00:49:01] know that keeping properties open is a
[00:49:04] is vital to the
[00:49:07] community
[00:49:09] Bill well there's still this problem the
[00:49:12] Town Council believes that there is
[00:49:14] a the town is going to be responsible if
[00:49:17] there's an issue so it's something that
[00:49:19] we need to clear up between Town Council
[00:49:21] and East Quin Land Trust right who's
[00:49:23] who's going to hold the
[00:49:25] liability what
[00:49:27] well yeah hearing it now it's a little
[00:49:29] hard to come prepared to address it
[00:49:31] because I don't have the attorney I
[00:49:33] understand I I got this today
[00:49:36] information today can we get a copy both
[00:49:38] the Conservation Commission and I'm sure
[00:49:40] the trust wants a copy so we can read it
[00:49:43] yes because if we need to if because if
[00:49:45] we need to respond to that um because no
[00:49:48] other community has ever brought that
[00:49:50] particular issue before us that's not
[00:49:52] true that's I it is true because they
[00:49:54] haven't brought it before us you that's
[00:49:56] all I said right Justine so let me be
[00:49:59] clear about what I'm saying is that I've
[00:50:01] never been this has never been an issue
[00:50:03] with communities every Community every
[00:50:06] private conservation restriction the
[00:50:08] community is asked and it's part of the
[00:50:11] state law that the select board or the
[00:50:13] mayor sign off on a conservation
[00:50:16] restriction because what you're agreeing
[00:50:17] to as a select board is that this meets
[00:50:20] public purpose that there is a public
[00:50:22] reason for having open space all of the
[00:50:25] values that come
[00:50:27] with keeping the woods and the Farms
[00:50:29] going within our communities so I've
[00:50:31] never had this before so let me I need I
[00:50:34] need the information from you so that I
[00:50:37] can talk to our lawyer and figure out
[00:50:39] how to
[00:50:41] respond
[00:50:54] okay I don't think there's anything in
[00:50:56] here that we can't pass
[00:50:58] on um I it is privilege communication so
[00:51:06] I we can run it by Catherine first
[00:51:10] that's fine just is this Catherine Klein
[00:51:12] yeah but I I don't well we've certainly
[00:51:15] worked with her before in other
[00:51:16] conservation restrictions and it has not
[00:51:18] been an
[00:51:19] issue and people probably didn't ask the
[00:51:22] same questions and again we have to do
[00:51:26] and protect protect the town that's our
[00:51:27] job is just to protect the town Bill had
[00:51:30] some questions they were good questions
[00:51:32] he has every right to ask these
[00:51:34] questions and get answers for them so
[00:51:36] that he feels
[00:51:37] comfortable and did I not answer those
[00:51:39] question making decisions forever it is
[00:51:41] forever yes so we we have to what is our
[00:51:45] town going to be in 150 years from now
[00:51:49] we none of us are going to be here so we
[00:51:51] need to protect the town's interest and
[00:51:53] also East CL and land trust interest
[00:51:55] corre at the same time so I'm sure
[00:51:57] there's some middle ground that we can
[00:51:58] come
[00:52:00] to an attorney K has worked with towns
[00:52:03] who have not um have voted down
[00:52:06] conservation restrictions um so she's
[00:52:07] worked with both um ones that have
[00:52:09] supported it and ones that have not
[00:52:13] so um let's have a conversation with her
[00:52:16] tomorrow if we can and see where we can
[00:52:18] move forward in sending over ab and also
[00:52:22] I I had some questions regarding this
[00:52:25] that this specific property um there's
[00:52:28] there was Clauses in there for for the
[00:52:31] green energy and you mentioned you're
[00:52:33] never going to put in solar you're never
[00:52:35] going to do farming but it's a template
[00:52:38] but why are these agreements in there if
[00:52:40] you're never going to develop this land
[00:52:42] or use that land in that way um so Bill
[00:52:44] I I don't I don't believe I said we
[00:52:46] never would I believe what I said was
[00:52:48] that we have no plans to so right now
[00:52:52] the property is wooded and the intention
[00:52:54] would be to is to add it to the Patra
[00:52:57] Hollow Reserve which we manage have have
[00:53:00] the woods are there and the trails and
[00:53:02] encourage people to come and to recreate
[00:53:04] on the property our vision at this point
[00:53:06] would to continue that if you think back
[00:53:08] to what this landscape looked like 150
[00:53:11] years ago 200 years ago there weren't
[00:53:13] trees on the range right behind us there
[00:53:15] weren't trees in lots of these
[00:53:16] properties that have stone walls that
[00:53:18] are evidence of agricultural use and
[00:53:20] other other land uses in that have
[00:53:22] happened in the past are not happening
[00:53:25] now and so one of the reasons to use the
[00:53:28] model language with the conservation
[00:53:30] restriction that allows for things that
[00:53:33] are compatible with the conservation
[00:53:36] values so there these are all compatible
[00:53:38] uses with conservation values is that
[00:53:40] you leave the opportunity for the future
[00:53:43] because it is imp perpetuity because we
[00:53:45] don't know exactly what's going to
[00:53:46] happen because maybe at some point we do
[00:53:49] need to be growing more food and so
[00:53:51] therefore we do need to instead of
[00:53:53] having it entirely be wooded some
[00:53:55] portion of it need to start growing food
[00:53:57] we just don't know and that's why when
[00:53:59] you use the model language you have the
[00:54:03] flexibility of all of those very
[00:54:05] compatible conservation uses maintained
[00:54:08] into the
[00:54:09] future I understand that and I get that
[00:54:12] but at the same time when you redevelop
[00:54:16] land it opens the door for pilot
[00:54:18] programs through chapter 121
[00:54:21] Redevelopment so if you were going to
[00:54:22] put in solar the town would be
[00:54:24] interested in a pilot agreement if
[00:54:25] you're going to get green energy money
[00:54:27] for
[00:54:29] that well I would suggest that that
[00:54:31] would be a discussion for the future not
[00:54:34] for today and not not specifically with
[00:54:38] this or any of the conservation
[00:54:39] restrictions that come forth um again
[00:54:42] you're you're talking about taxes and
[00:54:44] not and not in terms of the value of the
[00:54:46] conservation restriction
[00:54:50] itself this part I do not agree with
[00:54:52] because if you're going to redevelop
[00:54:54] this land whether it's 50 years from now
[00:54:57] 100 years from now and you don't know
[00:54:59] and you want these Clauses in there and
[00:55:01] the town the town will be on the outside
[00:55:04] looking in there's nothing the town can
[00:55:05] do so this is why I would like you know
[00:55:10] that we negotiate this or something
[00:55:12] where if you redevelop this land that
[00:55:14] the town has the right to ask for a
[00:55:17] pilot well that is not standard language
[00:55:20] for this and I think your definition of
[00:55:22] what you're thinking might happen for
[00:55:23] redevelopment for solar it sounds like
[00:55:25] solar is is the principal thing that
[00:55:28] you're um concerned with here yeah um so
[00:55:33] that green if you read that green energy
[00:55:35] paragraph it's limited to using the
[00:55:37] energy on site so it's if you think
[00:55:41] about a Farmland which is where where
[00:55:44] typically that would happen where you're
[00:55:45] going to be using having lots of
[00:55:46] freezers or um you know electrical
[00:55:49] equipment and you might want to offset
[00:55:53] some of the electrical use by generating
[00:55:55] some we're this conservation restriction
[00:55:59] is not for a commercial development it
[00:56:01] is not for commercial solar that's
[00:56:04] that's clearly within the language so
[00:56:06] the use the use if you think about it in
[00:56:08] terms of
[00:56:09] scale it's more like what um imir mson
[00:56:13] Farm does where they have you know two
[00:56:15] sets of 40 panels or stillman's Farm
[00:56:19] where they are using a lot of energy
[00:56:21] within that setting but they're they're
[00:56:24] generating electricity for their use on
[00:56:26] their property they're not selling it
[00:56:28] off grid and making
[00:56:30] money right okay but you you're still
[00:56:33] redeveloping the land you would be
[00:56:35] adding this down the road and then also
[00:56:37] let's say you you say this is where
[00:56:40] farmers do this and and um use it for
[00:56:43] their own use but at the same time you
[00:56:45] said you're not going to farm this land
[00:56:46] you're not going to do these things we
[00:56:48] do we so either you are or you're not
[00:56:50] like what what what is the intent the
[00:56:53] intent is to keep this as open space so
[00:56:56] so to allow for all of those
[00:56:58] conservation um compatible conservation
[00:57:00] uses this is really about restricting
[00:57:04] residential development more
[00:57:07] than whatever particular land use is
[00:57:10] happening in 150 years or 200 years from
[00:57:14] now so this is this conservation
[00:57:17] restriction is a document designed to
[00:57:21] limit where the houses and the septic
[00:57:24] systems
[00:57:25] go so that when houses get built they
[00:57:27] get built in other appropriate areas and
[00:57:30] not on a conservation not a piece of
[00:57:32] land that's designated for
[00:57:35] conservation I mean I think you might I
[00:57:37] don't know if you guys are willing to to
[00:57:39] to speak but there's a couple um land
[00:57:42] owners here who are interested in having
[00:57:44] their lands conserved in this way and
[00:57:47] maybe it would be helpful for them to
[00:57:49] share kind of why they want to see their
[00:57:52] properties
[00:57:54] conserved I don't know if you're willing
[00:57:56] to share uh they have to address me oh
[00:57:58] sorry if you thank you if you make um I
[00:58:03] think we need to reach back out to Town
[00:58:05] Council and I think Bill's right I think
[00:58:07] we can try to find um a common ground I
[00:58:11] think so that suits both the town and
[00:58:13] East Clavin Land Trust I think that's
[00:58:16] going to be our first um game of attack
[00:58:18] and if it means the attorneys D to start
[00:58:20] talking together to come up with that
[00:58:22] then that's what we'll do is that fair
[00:58:27] okay like try to
[00:58:29] this yeah that's totally fair have the
[00:58:32] two
[00:58:33] attorneys um maybe go through Justine
[00:58:36] and um figure out what works for both of
[00:58:42] them we just have to protect
[00:58:46] ourselves that's what we're you know
[00:58:49] we're the stewards of the town right so
[00:58:52] we just have to make sure that you know
[00:58:55] we're not
[00:58:57] getting involved into all this property
[00:58:59] that then something happens on it and
[00:59:01] then you know we're also pulled into
[00:59:04] that like just have to be mindful of
[00:59:06] that that's reasonable you know I mean
[00:59:08] in defense of the Conservation
[00:59:10] Commission we've worked I mean we we
[00:59:12] have stated in numerous meetings that we
[00:59:14] have certain important conservation
[00:59:16] Partners in town DCR quaven the DFW with
[00:59:20] Wildlife Management lands and these qu
[00:59:22] land trusts um we have seven of these
[00:59:25] restrictions that I know of so far this
[00:59:26] would be the
[00:59:27] eth um and in
[00:59:30] fact the were River Park Properties that
[00:59:33] we the town are improving all for Public
[00:59:37] Access fishing whatever you know bike
[00:59:40] riding
[00:59:41] walking those lands were actually the
[00:59:43] result of work by the trust to secure
[00:59:47] some grant money and we ended up with
[00:59:49] the wearer of a
[00:59:51] parcels and we're working in combination
[00:59:53] with them to develop the rail trail
[00:59:55] Becky's put a lot of of time in um in
[00:59:58] the blueway trail on the river with
[00:59:59] another organization you you're aware of
[01:00:01] this stuff y so in our defense you know
[01:00:04] we consider this an important
[01:00:05] conservation partnership and
[01:00:08] so um we don't really we think about the
[01:00:15] benefits that these lands
[01:00:18] provide even though people worry about
[01:00:20] taxes lost the flip side is there are
[01:00:23] Services provided in terms of outdoor
[01:00:25] recreation and um educa Wildlife
[01:00:28] education Environmental Education wild
[01:00:31] habitat all of those benefits that
[01:00:34] aren't really
[01:00:35] valued we could probably do some
[01:00:37] research and come up with values if
[01:00:39] that's something that people are worried
[01:00:41] about but I I see what you're saying
[01:00:43] you're talking liability right
[01:00:46] understandable right yeah that's the the
[01:00:49] B you know that's that's really what it
[01:00:50] comes down to is that we just have to
[01:00:52] make sure that you know our te's are
[01:00:54] crossed and eyes are dotted
[01:00:56] just quick question so when you say
[01:00:58] liability you mean for injuries that
[01:01:01] occur may occur in a property or
[01:01:03] financial liability anything
[01:01:06] well someone were to get hurt on it you
[01:01:09] know our insurance could potentially be
[01:01:12] dragged into that and have to respond uh
[01:01:15] and exactly the what I'm sorry fire fire
[01:01:19] you know anything so we just have to
[01:01:21] make sure that you know we're being
[01:01:24] mindful of that and protecting the the
[01:01:26] town the best that we can that's you
[01:01:28] know that's our job yeah and which
[01:01:30] protects you all too because you know at
[01:01:34] the end of the day if the town has a
[01:01:37] gigantic
[01:01:38] lawsuit it's got to we got to pay for it
[01:01:40] somehow you know
[01:01:46] so
[01:01:47] Phil are are we good with moving forward
[01:01:51] with both councils getting involved to
[01:01:54] see if we can absolutely maybe just um
[01:01:57] tighten the language up or you know
[01:01:59] something that makes everybody happy
[01:02:02] right and and there's one other thing
[01:02:03] the Agra tourism Clause I mean you're a
[01:02:06] nonprofit you said this and you and and
[01:02:09] by having that clause in there there are
[01:02:11] people in town that do have agorism
[01:02:14] businesses and you'd be taking from
[01:02:17] those businesses or competing with those
[01:02:20] businesses and and it's almost like it's
[01:02:22] an unfair
[01:02:24] Advantage what so
[01:02:26] you know this is this is you know just
[01:02:29] further discussion that's all I mean
[01:02:31] it's I mean we got to protect the guy
[01:02:33] who's who's actually paying the taxes
[01:02:35] paying for the land how does he compete
[01:02:37] with somebody who doesn't have to pay
[01:02:41] taxes is different than liability yeah
[01:02:44] so this is a different issue and I think
[01:02:46] um if you look at at our our current
[01:02:48] practices so the properties that we do
[01:02:50] have fields on we're not out there
[01:02:53] cutting the cutting the hay and selling
[01:02:56] the hay and competing with people what
[01:02:57] we're doing is we're Leasing and letting
[01:02:59] local farmers actually use it so that is
[01:03:02] more likely the model of how if in the
[01:03:05] future any kind of agorism ever happen
[01:03:08] on the maybe it can be tweaked to be
[01:03:10] worded a little bit more so one of the
[01:03:13] things I think I just want to be sure
[01:03:15] you're clear about is that we're using
[01:03:16] the model language and so we're using
[01:03:19] the pre-approve language that's already
[01:03:21] gone through all of the
[01:03:23] attorneys um for approve
[01:03:26] so going back before the end of the year
[01:03:29] and tweaking language now is something
[01:03:31] that would be very difficult to do well
[01:03:33] I'm I'm going to question that yeah you
[01:03:37] if if we're going to try to get to a
[01:03:38] happy place where everybody wants to
[01:03:41] sign it I think we need to you know take
[01:03:44] a look at that and about which
[01:03:47] paragraphs specifically are you talking
[01:03:48] about the ones that bill is suggesting
[01:03:50] or you talk about the liability well and
[01:03:52] the liability s didn't mean go ahead um
[01:03:56] so you mentioned leasing the farmers who
[01:03:58] um who gets the revenue for that well we
[01:04:01] get the revenue for that those are those
[01:04:03] are for properties and then that's all
[01:04:04] reported on our but it's 25 or $50 an
[01:04:08] acre for you know 5 to8 Acres it's not a
[01:04:11] big Revenue generating on the properties
[01:04:13] that we already
[01:04:15] have but it is a different model than
[01:04:18] what bill was suggesting we are not
[01:04:20] trying to compete we're not out there
[01:04:22] competing with Farmers I think the
[01:04:24] wording opens the door door for it
[01:04:26] that's what he's saying the wording
[01:04:28] opens the door for it that's all he's
[01:04:30] saying is that it it could be construed
[01:04:32] that way so let's have the attorneys
[01:04:36] have a conversation and see if we can
[01:04:38] come up with something that everybody is
[01:04:40] comfortable
[01:04:42] with we good with that that's good yep
[01:04:46] okay all
[01:04:50] right um so I would continue to have
[01:04:53] this on our agenda until we fig this out
[01:05:03] y thank you everybody for
[01:05:06] coming um thank
[01:05:14] you the next thing is payment in Le of
[01:05:17] taxes the pilot
[01:05:19] policy yes um we we did get a response
[01:05:23] from Town Council basically saying they
[01:05:26] can't advise us on the
[01:05:28] policy for via email I'm not sure if you
[01:05:31] were able to see that email yeah yeah
[01:05:34] and then he proceeded to say once that's
[01:05:36] all aside here you should make these
[01:05:39] changes but I don't understand why Town
[01:05:41] Council can't advise us on a policy and
[01:05:45] I I sent an email and I didn't get a
[01:05:47] response to it okay
[01:05:50] um well I guess maybe we follow up on
[01:05:53] the email that you sent um maybe maybe
[01:05:55] Justine can do that and just kind of
[01:05:57] poke the bear a little bit there I
[01:05:59] didn't get that from I didn't get that
[01:06:03] they I guess it's a very first sentence
[01:06:06] they said we can't advise you on the
[01:06:07] policy basically well implementing
[01:06:10] because that's a board decision that's a
[01:06:12] town
[01:06:13] decision right but it the policy itself
[01:06:17] is the policy okay like there there's
[01:06:19] certain terms in there is that okay is
[01:06:21] that not okay I mean what I got from it
[01:06:24] is he couldn't advise us so I took it
[01:06:26] that um I took it very differently bill
[01:06:29] I took it that um they're not going to
[01:06:32] tell us whether or not to implement one
[01:06:33] or not that's that's a town policy
[01:06:36] decision and then I also took that what
[01:06:40] you sent over that there were only a
[01:06:43] couple of things that they had comments
[01:06:45] on MH um because then at the end you
[01:06:49] know he agreed to you know Assist in
[01:06:52] drafting them an agreement with an
[01:06:56] corre correct yes so I don't yeah I
[01:07:00] don't think that they don't want to
[01:07:02] um help but I mean we can certainly see
[01:07:05] what their their followup is you said
[01:07:07] you sent some questions so do you want
[01:07:10] to see what the followup comes of that
[01:07:12] and maybe even
[01:07:14] yeah and meanwhile you
[01:07:18] know I'll I'll update the draft and I'll
[01:07:21] I'll send it along to you and or send it
[01:07:23] to Justine and she'll send it to you
[01:07:26] and and then that way you know and I'll
[01:07:29] do that later this week okay hopefully
[01:07:32] or or this coming weekend okay I'll and
[01:07:36] I'll send it out by next Monday okay and
[01:07:38] and then that way you can review it you
[01:07:40] can see it um and and you know you put
[01:07:45] your input to it Eric has his input and
[01:07:48] then maybe we can finalize something
[01:07:50] where we can get closer to maybe
[01:07:52] adopting something yeah yeah um I think
[01:07:55] that's a good idea and in the meantime
[01:07:58] um you know even if it means maybe you
[01:08:01] and Justine have a conversation with
[01:08:03] Town Council um to to just get some
[01:08:07] clarification you know if you have
[01:08:09] specific questions I don't think that
[01:08:10] they're not willing I didn't get that
[01:08:12] from this um okay I had some issues with
[01:08:15] it only like that his response only
[01:08:17] because like he sent a lot of like
[01:08:19] excerpts from Mass General law and like
[01:08:21] we can read those ourselves like when we
[01:08:23] go to council we want counsel yeah so I
[01:08:25] get it yeah I mean I
[01:08:28] think and I am copied on Bill's umil
[01:08:31] okay perfect so um let's see what the
[01:08:35] response we get from that is and um I
[01:08:40] think I think we just keep moving
[01:08:42] forward I think it's a good idea you
[01:08:44] know and then you know obviously they'd
[01:08:46] be part in helping us do these anyway so
[01:08:51] you know we need them we need them to
[01:08:53] back us so um
[01:08:56] and also K meanwhile um I sent a thing I
[01:09:00] talked with Justine as far as you know
[01:09:03] what what information would we need from
[01:09:06] different town services like the police
[01:09:08] the fire you know on calls like where
[01:09:11] they're going where where is a lot of
[01:09:13] this Services being applied to and and
[01:09:17] yes I mean the town has never sent out a
[01:09:19] bill for these services or but we just
[01:09:22] it will bring it to the Forefront where
[01:09:24] you can realize how much money is
[01:09:26] actually being utilized well and they
[01:09:28] you know their input on these this might
[01:09:31] not be a bad idea either those you know
[01:09:33] the bigger departments that you know the
[01:09:35] the public safety departments it it may
[01:09:38] be a good idea to get their input
[01:09:41] regardless right absolutely I yeah I
[01:09:43] agree with
[01:09:45] that okay okay and that's it we'll table
[01:09:49] it for the next meeting y but Meanwhile
[01:09:52] by by Monday by by a week from to
[01:09:56] we'll have you know have much better
[01:09:59] draft put together okay that's good yeah
[01:10:01] perfect because then I think our next
[01:10:03] meeting will be the 12th because of
[01:10:05] Veterans Day right correct all right
[01:10:07] perfect okay um Becky um this is
[01:10:11] actually a question for bill um Bill met
[01:10:15] Bill Tinker met with Bill Zin and me um
[01:10:18] regarding conservation um last week just
[01:10:21] to kind of tell them what we were doing
[01:10:23] with Conservation Commission and is conc
[01:10:25] concerned about nonprofits in town and
[01:10:29] um he said that he would thought it
[01:10:31] would be a good idea to have a
[01:10:34] conversation with the nonprofits rather
[01:10:37] than I don't know you know where you are
[01:10:39] in this
[01:10:41] uh I mean not to dictate to say you need
[01:10:44] to pay this I mean is that clear is that
[01:10:46] what we were talking about Bill yes and
[01:10:49] also to have conservation there because
[01:10:52] Bill Zen and Becky both both met mention
[01:10:55] how you know what they do and how
[01:10:58] conservation restrictions help the town
[01:11:00] and benefit the town there and how each
[01:11:03] carbin land trust is a facilitator for
[01:11:05] the town and to help certain things
[01:11:08] happen quickly per se versus um the
[01:11:12] state that moves very slow possibly is a
[01:11:15] nice way of putting it and so there is
[01:11:18] there is great benefit to conservation
[01:11:21] and and they explained that tremendously
[01:11:24] to me and I get it but meanwhile at the
[01:11:26] same time I explain to them that we we
[01:11:29] do we do need pilots from these
[01:11:32] nonprofits to contribute to the town we
[01:11:34] all need to
[01:11:37] contribute it shouldn't just fall all on
[01:11:39] the taxpayer but to follow up on that
[01:11:42] that for certain organizations it would
[01:11:45] be different depending on their impact
[01:11:48] of these Services because some use a lot
[01:11:51] of police and fire versus open space
[01:11:54] which there's practically no demand for
[01:11:57] fire and police so I mean there has to
[01:12:00] be some recognition this isn't going to
[01:12:03] be you know this is a pilot and
[01:12:05] everybody owes you know 50 Grand that's
[01:12:08] not I just wanted to make sure that's
[01:12:10] what you know talking about I mean one
[01:12:12] of the first paragraphs is how it's a
[01:12:14] voluntary agreement with the town it's
[01:12:17] to hope that we can partner with any
[01:12:22] organization and come to an agreement
[01:12:26] to just you know help the town oh I
[01:12:28] agree I think that's what it should be
[01:12:30] it should be a collaboration agreement
[01:12:32] between organizations rather than the
[01:12:34] town saying you have to pay this because
[01:12:37] it's not our intention at all that's why
[01:12:39] I'm just want to make sure to bring out
[01:12:41] yeah thank you right thank you and also
[01:12:43] Becky it's this this language in this
[01:12:47] where if if the nonprofit does services
[01:12:50] to the citizens like provide you know
[01:12:52] like how you provide open free space and
[01:12:55] and we have to quantify that somehow but
[01:12:58] we reduce whatever we're looking for out
[01:13:00] of a pilot agreement we reduce those
[01:13:02] Services down that that you provide to
[01:13:05] the citizens of hardware for
[01:13:08] free do you see what I'm saying yes
[01:13:10] there is a lot of activities that go on
[01:13:12] in these spaces that are free and open
[01:13:14] to the public and it's a great service
[01:13:16] to educationally to children and adults
[01:13:20] you know there there's certainly going
[01:13:21] to be very different conversations
[01:13:22] between very different organizations
[01:13:24] yeah good right everyone's going be
[01:13:26] different unique of their own situation
[01:13:28] and it's and it is voluntary thing okay
[01:13:33] good yeah so Town administrative report
[01:13:40] yes um so I've been working with the
[01:13:43] executive assistant and uh the police
[01:13:46] Lieutenant um we're still gathering
[01:13:48] information on um all of our billing for
[01:13:51] phone quotes so we're just getting those
[01:13:53] in um so we can hopefully in the
[01:13:57] foreseeable future pull the trigger on a
[01:13:59] vendor and um get our new
[01:14:04] phones
[01:14:06] um thank you um so if you've driven
[01:14:10] through uh the center of Hardwick the um
[01:14:13] old barn roof is getting repaired as we
[01:14:15] speak I drove by today and there was no
[01:14:17] roof so we're making
[01:14:20] progress um last week the executive
[01:14:23] assistant and myself attended a Vadar
[01:14:24] training we have part two this week um
[01:14:28] just doing you know sewer billing and
[01:14:29] stuff and getting up to speed on that
[01:14:31] that process so that will be
[01:14:34] coming um I had a call with Congressman
[01:14:36] MCG govern's office on our financial
[01:14:38] challenges just trying to stay on their
[01:14:41] radar um and we have our uh bi-weekly
[01:14:44] financial management team meetings every
[01:14:46] other week um with the uh assessor
[01:14:49] treasure collector and the town
[01:14:50] accountant so you know we're all on the
[01:14:52] same page
[01:14:55] um so last Friday I moderated a panel
[01:14:57] with attorney sha o Conor at the um
[01:14:59] Massachusetts Municipal human resource
[01:15:01] Association Labor Relations seminar in
[01:15:03] devans and it went really
[01:15:05] well um as you know we hired a or the
[01:15:09] board disapproved to hire um a new
[01:15:11] assistant chief operator in the
[01:15:13] wastewater treatment Department Scott
[01:15:15] must be so happy yes he is very happy um
[01:15:20] unfortunately we lost one of our new
[01:15:23] highway employees
[01:15:25] um he didn't die he's just no longer
[01:15:27] with us um so we are sorry I just said
[01:15:31] that really weird and I caught myself um
[01:15:34] so we are starting interviewing again on
[01:15:37] Wednesday um we are looking at employee
[01:15:40] salaries for fy2 and FY 26 the assessor
[01:15:44] um has been really um helping me with
[01:15:46] this pro project uh because she is on
[01:15:48] the Personnel committee um so we're
[01:15:50] looking at
[01:15:52] employees uh what they're getting paid
[01:15:54] this year what uh Market adjustments
[01:15:56] what that would be like and what we're
[01:15:58] going to do for next year and once I
[01:15:59] have more information I'll go to the
[01:16:01] Personnel committee and then to the
[01:16:02] select
[01:16:03] board I attended a quab and health
[01:16:06] district meeting with the Board of
[01:16:07] Health chair and the Board of Health
[01:16:08] clerk um that was really interesting um
[01:16:13] it's a lot more organized
[01:16:15] um it's it's a lot more formal it's a
[01:16:18] it's a very eclectic group of um people
[01:16:20] on the board but um it was an impressive
[01:16:24] uh meeting and and um I think we all
[01:16:27] enjoyed ourselves uh just observing we
[01:16:29] were just there to
[01:16:31] observe
[01:16:34] um we have been working on liquor
[01:16:37] license renewals Class 2 and class 3
[01:16:39] licenses uh we updated the packet we've
[01:16:42] been cleaning up the process uh putting
[01:16:44] a more
[01:16:46] um formalized process in place when it
[01:16:49] comes to that um so be easier year after
[01:16:51] year updating all of our forms with the
[01:16:54] masteral law um so that's been very
[01:16:57] timec consuming but um those licenses
[01:17:00] are going out for renewal on Wednesday
[01:17:03] good um I want to thank everyone
[01:17:06] who worked really hard to prepare for
[01:17:09] the special town meeting the assessor
[01:17:11] executive assistant Town accountant
[01:17:13] treasure collector and town
[01:17:14] clerk um important dates tomorrow
[01:17:18] morning from 9: to 10 at Mimi is coffee
[01:17:20] with the Town
[01:17:21] Administrator so don't make me sit there
[01:17:24] alone say
[01:17:26] hi um and the state election is November
[01:17:29] 5th so that's all I have this week all
[01:17:33] right great thank you yes thank you uh
[01:17:38] anything under select board Round Table
[01:17:41] Bill yes I I have um a thing for see if
[01:17:47] we could get a letter of appreciation to
[01:17:49] Jacob stles for you know over 20 years
[01:17:53] of community service Serv him and his
[01:17:56] wife Susan um they helped the recycling
[01:17:59] center he's done numerous jobs around
[01:18:03] town repairing stuff for the town at
[01:18:06] little or no cost um that's all and he
[01:18:10] he just recently sold this place he's
[01:18:12] he's moving to oam Y and so if we he'll
[01:18:16] be missed he he will be missed
[01:18:20] so I'm all in favor and then I'd also
[01:18:22] like to thank uh Peter Durant Senator
[01:18:25] Peter Durant for sponsoring me for
[01:18:26] tomorrow's seminar at the State
[01:18:30] House Tuesday and Wednesday nice so
[01:18:34] that's it I can put something together
[01:18:37] yeah that'd be great for Jacob y mhm add
[01:18:41] the food pantry and they were volunteers
[01:18:43] for
[01:18:44] years okay thank
[01:18:48] you I'm I don't have anything um I'm
[01:18:52] good
[01:18:58] okay make a motion to adj I'll second
[01:19:01] that all in
[01:19:03] favor hi William Tinker I than they'll
[01:19:07] have fun the next couple of days learn
[01:19:10] lots will I hope to learn quite a bit
[01:19:13] all right good thank you have a great
[01:19:16] night you too
[01:19:25] two don't know