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Hardwick Board of Selectmen: Contracts, Appointments, Infrastructure, and Funding

Original title: Hardwick, MA Board of Selectmen Meeting 6/26/23

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Date

June 27, 2023

Duration

36m

Decisions

5 recorded

Action Items

9 assigned

Summary

The Hardwick Board of Selectmen convened to address various municipal matters, including amendments to the Markham contract, committee appointments, and the dissolution of the Broadband Advisory Committee. The meeting also covered the Superintendent's report on pump station issues and wastewater treatment, discussions on a new truck bid, and the appointment of Sharon Hardaker to the "Mart" Advisory Board. Significant attention was given to the allocation and reconciliation of ARPA funds, approval of funding for a new Highway Department truck, and plans for replacing broken streaming equipment. The board also discussed applying for a grant for EV charging stations, Town Hall closure for an upcoming holiday, and the ongoing process of property seizure and demolition.

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The Markham contract was amended to allow either party to terminate services with 10 days' notice and confirmed monthly service provision.
All 2023 committee appointments were automatically given a three-year term due to time constraints.
The Broadband Advisory Committee was deemed no longer necessary as the town is nearly 100% covered by a new 10-year broadband contract.
The Emergency Planning Committee members' terms did not expire this year, so their appointments remained unchanged.
Officer Paul was mentioned for a "salutation" or recognition.
Certificates of appreciation were signed by the board.
The Gilberville Pump Station flow meter failed but was reactivated by a technician.
A new gas meter was purchased for confined space entry, with the old one kept for parts.
The town discovered Eagle Hill had been paying the pump station's phone bill for 7-8 years and is now taking over the payment.
The Superintendent toured Middlebury, VT's WWTP, which uses an Aqua Aerobics system similar to the proposed Wheelwright facility, and operators expressed satisfaction.
The WWTP tour reinforced the need to increase wastewater temperature, with engineers preferring to address this with the contractor during the work phase.
Initial confusion regarding the USDA budget amount was clarified to be $918, less than the previous year after accounting for an addition.
The accepted bid for a new truck was under $98,000, which included an added "dump" feature.
The board acknowledged the need to develop specific language or policy for sewer and bidding oversight to ensure accountability.
Blue Heron, the current engineers, cannot provide oversight due to a conflict of interest, prompting the board to consider other companies.
The board is preparing to initiate work on the sewer project, including tank cleaning.
Unused portions of allocated ARPA funds were not initially deducted from the total, with remaining funds expected to be closer to $180,000 after full reconciliation.
Funds already allocated to towns are considered safe, but unallocated funds might be reclaimed by the state.
Accountant Lori Delolio had her last day, and a replacement is expected to be hired this month.
The idea of a shared accountant with another town, ensuring 100% dedicated time, remains a priority.
The current streaming equipment is broken, necessitating Zoom for meetings, with replacement expected in two to three weeks.
Written testimony was submitted to the State House to equalize the value for pilots and state-owned land in the Commonwealth.
A quote for three new EV charging stations totaled approximately $40,000, with plans to apply for a Mass EVIP grant.
A four-year warranty and maintenance agreement for the EV charging stations is estimated to cost the town approximately $5,000 out-of-pocket.
All three existing EV charging stations are currently non-functional.
Skepticism was expressed regarding potential revenue generation from EV charging stations and the cost-effectiveness of staff time for monitoring.
State grants for EV initiatives often require public entity ownership, aligning with state promotion of "green" initiatives.
The Highway Department also plans a full-week closure for the upcoming holiday.
Mark's work schedule allows remote work or flexible presence without public interaction in the building.
The process of seizing buildings for tax title is slow and costly, with only a few properties addressed annually.
Identified properties contain asbestos and lead, adding to remediation costs for the town.

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We're going to zoom all of them are probably just going to be on the TV we're zooming tonight because see that enough for all the time I I because I I needed it to be recorded so I needed to zoom but you guys are all set full business
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I guess the only thing I could say for old business would be the Markham contract when Angie it was a little presumptuous of me or however it got in there when I wasn't here and Angie was and I wasn't really completely done negotiating with them and I just wanted we did the only language that we changed
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Was that so yeah did you find it thanks
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So in here let me say it was pretty sized but I'm not pressing assignment the signing sheet is a page nine right yeah so the only thing that changed was that we we can also so we only have we don't have the
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We only have the odd number of changes okay because we don't have two four right okay I'll give this to you but what the only I just wanted to let you know what we changed was that Markham can leave Hardwick with I believe 10 days notice the town it was the town did not have
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That option so we've put that in there and also that they'll still come one day a month which wasn't in there so those are the only two things so that's the way they've been doing it except for the termination stuff yeah so they were able to terminate us but we
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Landed certainly then so now we can that's literally the only thing that changed so do you want a motion you should accept the changes I would make a motion to accept the changes of the Markham contract dated in June 13th 2023 that and the either party

[00:00:00] we're going to zoom all [00:00:02] of them are probably just going to be on [00:00:04] the TV [00:00:07] we're zooming tonight because see that [00:00:09] enough for all the time [00:00:11] um I I because I I needed it to be [00:00:13] recorded so I needed to zoom [00:00:16] but you guys are all set full business [00:00:22] I guess the only thing I could say for [00:00:24] old business would be the Markham [00:00:26] contract [00:00:27] um when Angie it was a little [00:00:30] presumptuous of me or however it got in [00:00:32] there when I wasn't here and Angie was [00:00:33] and I wasn't really completely done [00:00:36] negotiating with them and I just wanted [00:00:39] we did the only language that we changed [00:00:41] was that um [00:00:44] so yeah [00:00:52] did you find it [00:00:53] thanks [00:00:59] so in here let me say it was pretty [00:01:02] sized but I'm not pressing [00:01:05] um [00:01:06] assignment the signing sheet is a page [00:01:08] nine right yeah so the only thing that [00:01:10] changed was that we we can also [00:01:15] so we only have we don't have the [00:01:18] we only have the odd number of changes [00:01:20] okay [00:01:22] because we don't have two four right [00:01:24] okay I'll give this to you but what the [00:01:27] only I just wanted to let you know what [00:01:28] we changed was that Markham can leave [00:01:31] Hardwick with I believe 10 days notice [00:01:35] the town it was the town did not have [00:01:37] that option [00:01:38] so we've put that in there [00:01:40] and also that they'll still come one day [00:01:43] a month which wasn't in there [00:01:46] so those are the only two things [00:01:49] so that's the way they've been doing it [00:01:51] except for the termination stuff yeah so [00:01:54] they were able to terminate us but we [00:01:55] landed certainly then so now we can [00:01:58] um that's literally the only thing that [00:02:00] changed [00:02:02] so do you want a motion [00:02:04] you should accept the changes [00:02:06] um I would make a motion to accept the [00:02:09] changes of the Markham contract dated in [00:02:11] June 13th 2023 that and the either party [00:02:15] can disengage services within 10 days [00:02:18] and that they will remain [00:02:21] um coming in person one day a month [00:02:25] per second [00:02:30] um uh I only have every other page but [00:02:32] yes assuming everything it's it's the [00:02:35] truth yeah [00:02:37] if you want to sign it wrong hi [00:02:46] thanks [00:02:55] okay all right next door of business [00:02:58] the annual appointments [00:03:02] I was talking to Ryan about it and we [00:03:05] are going to go through everyone and get [00:03:08] all their contact information and make [00:03:10] sure that we call them and ask them that [00:03:12] they want to be reappointed [00:03:14] um but time really got away from us for [00:03:17] me over the past couple of weeks and so [00:03:20] I took all the 2023s and gave them a [00:03:23] three-year appointment the only one in [00:03:25] here [00:03:25] it shouldn't be in here Mr Lee going on [00:03:27] a Personnel committee [00:03:30] to be omitted and I believe that Eric [00:03:32] said to the Eric correct yes and then I [00:03:35] wanted to bring to your attention [00:03:37] um the [00:03:39] Broadband committee the Broadband [00:03:41] advisory committee I put I put the whole [00:03:43] thing on there and I thought maybe you [00:03:45] might want to officially disband it [00:03:47] considering we have the new 10-year [00:03:49] contract and we're just about [00:03:51] a covered [00:03:52] at this point so I don't know that it's [00:03:54] necessary [00:03:56] I cannot tell you we haven't had a [00:03:58] meeting in [00:03:59] so if you want to disband the Broadband [00:04:02] advisory committee [00:04:04] indefinitely then you know you can do [00:04:07] that or you know I I don't see any other [00:04:09] ones that should be disbanded but I did [00:04:11] see that one yeah [00:04:13] so those are those are the two is that [00:04:15] all we need to do is make a motion to do [00:04:17] that [00:04:18] yes I was talking to Ryan about it [00:04:23] we [00:04:25] dissolve the Broadband committee second [00:04:28] yeah any discussion girls in favor all [00:04:32] right [00:04:42] we wanted to dissolve in other ones no [00:04:45] Broadband you just have to probably make [00:04:49] the answer [00:04:51] needs to be it needs to be you so I [00:04:54] would make a motion to update the [00:04:56] Personnel committee to read Eric [00:04:57] bollhein [00:04:59] and not Julie clink for a term expiring [00:05:02] 2026. [00:05:04] a second on that I'll second that [00:05:09] any discussion follows a favor hi [00:05:13] so then I would furthermore make a [00:05:15] motion to accept the [00:05:18] um appointments [00:05:20] as [00:05:21] written here [00:05:24] except for the Broadband advisory [00:05:27] committee [00:05:30] the correction on the Personnel [00:05:32] committee [00:05:34] I'd like to suggest [00:05:36] the emergency planning committee [00:05:39] was something that I pulled together [00:05:40] once a year maybe and it's always [00:05:44] included the building inspector [00:05:46] and the Board of Health so these are [00:05:49] only terms that expired this year okay [00:05:52] that's why so those people should still [00:05:54] be on there yep [00:06:00] sales in favor [00:06:05] [Music] [00:06:09] sanitation and you know officer Paul [00:06:13] well I don't have to make this [00:06:25] nice so nice [00:06:30] come on cheesy certificates of [00:06:32] appreciation [00:06:33] and I [00:06:36] we're just signing this we don't have to [00:06:41] is there a plan to give it to them and a [00:06:43] certain time [00:06:45] I think that there is some sort of I [00:06:48] know they were putting together [00:06:49] something they thought but I don't know [00:06:50] I will ask and see if somebody should [00:06:52] present it or if the lieutenant okay [00:06:56] okay [00:06:57] yeah [00:07:01] he was a good guy [00:07:04] all right do we have abatements no no [00:07:06] payments [00:07:08] all right [00:07:10] superintendent reports [00:07:13] Scotland Zoo [00:07:18] hi everybody [00:07:23] there's not a whole lot to tell this [00:07:24] month which is always a good thing [00:07:27] um the flow meter at the Gilbertville [00:07:29] Pump Station did fail [00:07:31] and uh we had no luck [00:07:35] reactivating it ourselves [00:07:37] so we did how to have a technician come [00:07:39] in and he does have it working [00:07:41] he's not exactly sure what he did but [00:07:44] it is working again [00:07:48] we did purchase a new gas meter for [00:07:51] entering confined spaces [00:07:56] Parts but it is [00:08:01] we did discover that the line for the [00:08:03] eagle Hill Pump Station had been [00:08:05] disconnected [00:08:06] and in the process of investing [00:08:12] investing bill [00:08:13] I'm assuming since the station was put [00:08:15] online seven or eight years ago [00:08:18] so we we are in the process of taking [00:08:20] over that bill payment [00:08:22] the phone Line's been reactivated [00:08:28] I did take a tour of the Middlebury [00:08:29] Vermont wastewater treatment plant which [00:08:32] has an aqua Aerobic System [00:08:35] um similar to what is being proposed for [00:08:38] the wheel right facility [00:08:40] and The Operators there are very happy [00:08:42] with it they say it's a good company to [00:08:44] deal with [00:08:46] um seeing the layout of their plant kind [00:08:48] of reinforced to me [00:08:50] that uh [00:08:51] we should take some measures to try to [00:08:53] get the temperature up on our Wastewater [00:08:57] um whether it's insulating our tanks [00:09:00] or mounting dirt up on our tanks [00:09:02] something to that effect [00:09:06] and our Engineers kind of agreed with [00:09:08] that but they don't want to take it up [00:09:09] now with the with the contractor [00:09:13] once someone gets to bid they plan on [00:09:15] bringing it up once work is underway [00:09:23] that's pretty much all I have [00:09:26] [Music] [00:09:31] um [00:09:32] Scott just for the future reference and [00:09:35] uh if you could be at the annual town [00:09:39] meeting when we do your budget [00:09:41] fortunately nobody had a question this [00:09:42] year but [00:09:44] just if they do I'd rather happy wheels [00:09:46] for them than us [00:09:52] thank you you guys are so hoping [00:09:54] everyone was fairly satisfied that took [00:09:57] away the [00:09:58] 106 000 that was added by USDA it was [00:10:01] actually less than last year's budget [00:10:07] now that was more it was 9 28. yeah [00:10:12] if you take away the 106 that was added [00:10:14] to it oh yeah oh right yeah let's hope [00:10:18] that works out this well [00:10:21] [Music] [00:10:22] okay for Scott no no [00:10:26] that's good [00:10:27] you got anything else for us Scott that [00:10:29] you want to wrap [00:10:32] that's about it [00:10:34] okay thank you thank you for your report [00:10:37] thank you for your time [00:10:41] good luck [00:10:45] yeah [00:10:47] all right this bus [00:10:54] you're making that way too complicated [00:11:03] I'm ready don't remind me if mine's [00:11:05] coming [00:11:09] ah it's getting there [00:11:12] couple months [00:11:15] all right so this is the new [00:11:18] package for the trucks yeah [00:11:22] it's the best deal here it's 108 000. [00:11:25] yeah it was less than he expected yeah [00:11:28] because he had got like not six in 2020 [00:11:30] right [00:11:31] and what is this [00:11:36] I don't know it's just showing you the [00:11:38] price of the vehicle [00:11:40] and then once you add that dump and then [00:11:43] oh okay yeah I see now all right I was [00:11:45] not I was looking at this number not [00:11:47] this number okay yep the heated and air [00:11:49] conditioned seats [00:11:51] you don't get a new car without that [00:11:54] anymore [00:11:58] the highway [00:12:01] I don't see that I can barely read this [00:12:03] yeah [00:12:06] mini bar what no I'm just kidding [00:12:11] so do we [00:12:12] do we know that we have like I know we [00:12:17] talked about and I know that we thought [00:12:19] that we would be good but do we have [00:12:20] that number and do that to make sure [00:12:23] before we've got you know right right [00:12:25] yeah [00:12:27] is there anything else that you can talk [00:12:28] about without me why is something yeah [00:12:30] stuff for us to sign oh yeah I do [00:12:39] when I was away at my conference [00:12:42] Comcast went out and I had to pay it on [00:12:45] my credit card because I only said no [00:12:47] phones so this is a random [00:12:50] um and then in your packet [00:12:54] there's a significance on Mark and I was [00:12:57] thinking if you want to [00:12:59] appoint [00:13:00] um Sharon yeah because probably the most [00:13:03] appropriate person okay [00:13:07] so I would make a motion to appoint [00:13:10] Sharon hardika to mark for the advisory [00:13:14] Advisory board for fiscal year 24 [00:13:18] starting July first 23 through June 30th [00:13:21] 24. oh the second night [00:13:24] translation [00:13:26] is great all those in favor bye [00:13:37] where's the Whiteboard now right yeah [00:13:41] I'm not going to select board members [00:13:44] well I'm gonna uh [00:13:49] I just I'm not 100 I think it's a k e r [00:13:52] but I just want [00:13:53] I want her to confirm that before I [00:13:55] spell her name right on it so just so [00:13:58] yeah yeah [00:14:06] what's today in the [00:14:08] 26th yes yes [00:14:13] okay [00:14:17] I'm sorry I thought you guys are feeling [00:14:18] rushed [00:14:20] thank you very much [00:14:22] I'd like to learn schedule and uh select [00:14:25] Mysteries Another 48 hours [00:14:29] sitting here by yourself [00:14:38] you're gonna take over the world oh I [00:14:40] think [00:14:41] look at this box [00:14:44] that's fine yeah [00:14:49] what do you think of it that mean it was [00:14:52] very smooth [00:14:56] nothing big [00:15:01] um so so we need I'll just jump down to [00:15:05] selectman's Round Table [00:15:08] um so we wanna [00:15:10] deal with [00:15:12] the sewer and getting oversight [00:15:16] so it just means we just need to come up [00:15:19] with some really kind of kind of thing [00:15:21] would you correct or a p whatever you [00:15:23] want to call it I think we could be I'm [00:15:26] kind of big on what we're looking for in [00:15:28] more like give hours [00:15:30] sometimes eight hours and [00:15:33] that we're looking [00:15:35] yeah I don't think it needs to be eight [00:15:37] hours a day every time you know it's [00:15:39] just a check-in it's it's someone to [00:15:41] just keep keep you know okay just pulse [00:15:45] on the job and yep keep this so [00:15:48] everything moves forward any decisions [00:15:49] that are made won't come back to anybody [00:15:52] at the end correct I just I don't want [00:15:54] that [00:15:55] no or anyone questioning you know why I [00:15:58] think it's more of a checks and balance [00:16:00] report back into us so that we're [00:16:02] reporting to the public about [00:16:06] on the up and up yeah do you want me to [00:16:09] get a a little more detailed [00:16:11] um quote like the blue heron did [00:16:15] yeah you know now that we know a lot and [00:16:18] really these problems they really can't [00:16:21] of course site because because they're [00:16:23] Engineers for the firm yeah did you see [00:16:26] now so I was going to go to Whitewater [00:16:28] Wastewater who I've already contacted we [00:16:30] keep playing phone tag at this point and [00:16:32] blue heron I don't really know any other [00:16:34] ways out there we use cribs on the [00:16:38] planning board well you know we [00:16:40] literally no Wastewater yeah yeah [00:16:42] systems [00:16:44] experts and you know like all different [00:16:47] fields yeah [00:16:50] it's its own Beast [00:16:52] absolutely I do think you know I do [00:16:55] agree that if its own it's like a [00:16:57] national one too [00:16:59] um [00:17:01] I want to say like Sizer or something [00:17:04] they're like an international company [00:17:06] and they do many different they actually [00:17:09] run places [00:17:11] yeah okay she wasn't see look we didn't [00:17:14] have Representatives [00:17:19] you know we can elicit you know whatever [00:17:21] Nicole can tag together for us and see [00:17:25] what what common language is because I [00:17:28] think I know she did provide some maybe [00:17:31] we you could resend those and I feel [00:17:33] like we've asked you that twice now and [00:17:36] you've resent them I'm not saying that [00:17:37] you haven't but then we haven't taken [00:17:39] the time to like just really review and [00:17:41] work on you know now that time needing [00:17:44] is over and all that jazz and silver I [00:17:46] think we we do need to focus on doing [00:17:48] this and we are about to spoil and stuff [00:17:51] up yeah I mean the site looks at you [00:17:54] know they've been they've been there [00:17:56] right it's getting going so [00:17:59] and even Scott looking at slating the [00:18:01] tanks and all that yeah [00:18:04] yeah whatever they want to do that's [00:18:06] additional but make sure we don't screw [00:18:08] ourselves financially yeah I think it's [00:18:11] just accountability yeah for for the [00:18:13] town to the tones people that are paying [00:18:15] for it you know more more that just to [00:18:19] keep everyone [00:18:20] yeah [00:18:22] all right so the arpa now what I have [00:18:26] right now unfortunately I I knew I [00:18:28] wanted to do this I completely forgot [00:18:30] but when we allocate about an amount of [00:18:33] money to a project [00:18:35] if they don't use all of that that's [00:18:37] still left over so I did not go through [00:18:39] each invoice to make sure that we're [00:18:42] down to the white dollar but without [00:18:44] doing that with like the 25 000 that [00:18:47] went to the school doors but they only [00:18:48] use 19600 like so that's left so I [00:18:52] didn't deduct all of that which I wanted [00:18:53] to do and I started to over the weekend [00:18:55] and completely forgot but without that [00:18:58] there's 160 000 [00:19:00] so that's even after town meeting after [00:19:02] yeah okay that that was my yeah because [00:19:05] I know there was there we did snow and [00:19:07] ice out of there snow and ice in the [00:19:09] vehicles right and the police okay but [00:19:12] the truck that we just signed for [00:19:14] that'll come out of that that'll come [00:19:16] out of the 160 which is probably closer [00:19:18] to 180 or so right with the extra money [00:19:21] which I will do because this was [00:19:24] allocated for and then we figured there [00:19:26] was still going to be like 54 right [00:19:28] right so that makes sense and all the [00:19:30] money the kids kicked bad because didn't [00:19:32] get spent yes still has to be spent but [00:19:36] next year yeah yeah of next year of 24. [00:19:39] yeah [00:19:41] anyways unless they decide to pull it in [00:19:43] Fast and not right [00:19:46] they said as soon at my conference last [00:19:49] week they said [00:19:51] whatever has already been allocated to [00:19:53] towns that they're not taking away but [00:19:55] things that are sitting in the treasury [00:19:57] they're probably going to take that yeah [00:19:59] from the state so [00:20:01] yeah [00:20:02] if you want a motion for this yeah then [00:20:05] I would make a motion that we approve [00:20:06] our funding for the new 2023 Ram 5500 [00:20:11] chassis cab for in the amount of 1 108 [00:20:17] 748 dollars [00:20:23] and I feel like there was something else [00:20:25] I was gonna say if that's of course [00:20:28] I don't know I guess maybe that one [00:20:30] sucks [00:20:31] I did say that right at the beginning [00:20:33] yeah I watched my train of thought oh [00:20:36] for the highway department that's what I [00:20:38] was gonna have for the highway [00:20:39] department [00:20:41] give me a second on that any more [00:20:43] discussions [00:20:45] all's in favor all right all right [00:20:54] I think that's the last thing is [00:21:03] yeah [00:21:06] you want to go ahead yeah sure [00:21:09] um I don't I know there's more and I've [00:21:11] just been really crazy it's just been [00:21:14] too crazy for me to go I usually go back [00:21:16] through and like see all the new things [00:21:17] and I really haven't been able to do [00:21:19] that but [00:21:20] um we did lose Lori delolio last [00:21:22] Thursday was her last day uh Markham [00:21:24] will be replacing her with another [00:21:26] accountant this month well yeah as of [00:21:28] June [00:21:30] um I I still want to keep on the [00:21:33] Forefront which is you know usually in [00:21:36] my uh report is ongoing to look into [00:21:39] shared accountant so to share it with [00:21:41] another town where we would have [00:21:43] designated you know uh 100 Hardwick time [00:21:47] for us and not you know [00:21:51] here and there we could really use the a [00:21:53] good accountant [00:21:55] um so our clearly we're on Zoom because [00:21:57] our streaming equipment is broken we are [00:22:00] Rick and I um our TV guy are working [00:22:03] with the company that bought out our [00:22:07] access AV which provided our equipment [00:22:10] has been bought out so we are working [00:22:12] with them right now diligently on trying [00:22:14] to replace that and so hopefully [00:22:17] well next week is a holiday week but [00:22:19] maybe in the week after that [00:22:21] um last week we submitted testimony for [00:22:25] Hardwick at the State House to equalize [00:22:27] the value for pilots and stayed on land [00:22:28] in the Commonwealth it was there was a [00:22:31] bill put out by Joe comfort that they [00:22:32] asked towns for some written testimony [00:22:34] or to be down person but we Tom meeting [00:22:36] on Saturday there was no way it was [00:22:38] leaving my office so we just submitted [00:22:41] written testimony and I got a quote for [00:22:45] um the two Newt for three new EV [00:22:49] charging stations [00:22:52] um it equals it's about forty thousand [00:22:54] dollars that I'm going to apply for a [00:22:55] grant for Mass EV IP [00:22:58] um electric vehicle incentive program [00:23:01] but the only thing that they won't cover [00:23:03] is our warranty and a maintenance [00:23:07] agreement so that'll be prop I want to [00:23:09] do a four-year [00:23:11] um [00:23:12] warranty [00:23:13] covers all of us [00:23:17] isn't that that'll be probably about [00:23:19] 5000 [00:23:21] um you know [00:23:22] the grant will cover the purchase the [00:23:25] installation Etc [00:23:28] so we don't right now and so I will ask [00:23:31] Patrick Mahoney who's the Green [00:23:32] community I mean um Guardian energy [00:23:35] um you know how we can go about doing [00:23:36] that I know when we first did it but [00:23:38] this was so long ago in my other Town it [00:23:40] was probably nine years ago it was it [00:23:42] was me it was like seven dollars a year [00:23:44] that we would make so it was more of a [00:23:47] service [00:23:48] to our residents but I will see in this [00:23:50] time it may have changed [00:23:53] um and I know they take up a lot of [00:23:54] electricity when they're charging so [00:23:57] I don't we I don't know this answer [00:23:58] maybe you do but I know that there's a [00:24:00] designated switch on the circuit breaker [00:24:02] for that I don't know if you can tell [00:24:04] how much energy just that one circuit is [00:24:06] using but yeah so we can see and see if [00:24:10] it's worth you know us [00:24:14] monitoring it chart you know making sure [00:24:16] we're getting paid and making sure [00:24:18] everything people their cars in oh [00:24:21] yeah I just like to spend any money on [00:24:24] something like this to me we're not [00:24:26] gonna get something back [00:24:28] well again it'd have to be worse it have [00:24:31] to be worth staff [00:24:33] too you know if it's going to be seven [00:24:35] dollars a year that's and we're we're [00:24:37] we're over you know we're getting 50 [00:24:39] cents or 75 cents or something so I will [00:24:42] definitely look into that [00:24:44] um and if it's worth it if it's if it [00:24:47] gives us 30 bucks a year it's fine it's [00:24:48] 30 bucks a year [00:24:50] um you know the state is trying to go [00:24:52] green and we've already got them here we [00:24:54] I don't think we can just rip them out [00:24:56] do they are they working [00:25:01] no they do not work none of them work [00:25:03] all three of them do not work there are [00:25:05] two here and where's the third one uh [00:25:07] 402 Lower Road [00:25:09] okay next to the co-op yeah oh okay [00:25:12] that's right [00:25:13] um oh yeah so we're paying for the [00:25:16] electricity yes so maybe some way to [00:25:19] monitor that see what it's costing us [00:25:21] they're exactly right because I know I [00:25:23] have yet to see a town that charges but [00:25:25] I know when we had them put in it was [00:25:28] like do you want to charge for these so [00:25:29] I will definitely find out I mean towns [00:25:33] don't have gas stations open with people [00:25:35] so why don't we have I'm nervous [00:25:40] yeah we don't give people gas [00:25:43] like to spend money on this it's like [00:25:46] absurd to me but whatever I'll I'll [00:25:48] listen to whatever you come up with for [00:25:50] some information [00:25:52] well I'm I [00:25:55] do not want me to go through with this [00:25:56] grant is that what you're saying [00:25:57] but the grant would would repair what we [00:26:00] replace everything right replace [00:26:02] everything with new stuff so they don't [00:26:04] but it's the only thing we are not [00:26:06] thousand dollars out of pocket and and [00:26:07] that's because I want a four-year [00:26:09] warranty if we go with a one year [00:26:10] warranty maybe it's two thousand [00:26:12] but I just you know I think once we [00:26:16] started it I mean we'll kind of you [00:26:18] should continue I think we should go for [00:26:21] a grant and if the cost is five grand [00:26:30] because I've literally seen people [00:26:32] plugged in and I don't know that they [00:26:34] don't know that they don't learn no they [00:26:36] can't even you can't open these anymore [00:26:37] you can't even pull it out any it has it [00:26:39] wasn't that long ago that I saw some no [00:26:41] it was probably probably completely died [00:26:43] like two months ago okay that it was you [00:26:45] could not you couldn't plug it but it [00:26:46] wouldn't charge perfect the one at 402 [00:26:49] little road has been broken for I can't [00:26:51] really help okay I got a complaint or [00:26:54] with many yeah [00:26:57] you like setting it up and charging and [00:26:59] walking down to the brewery having a [00:27:01] couple and coming back you know and he'd [00:27:04] be charged up so so that would happen [00:27:06] one way [00:27:08] uh that was always part of the um [00:27:11] you know to you you get an app on your [00:27:13] phone and you find where the charging [00:27:14] stations are and maybe then you grab a [00:27:16] bite to eat or you you know do a little [00:27:19] shopping I mean it is how it is how [00:27:21] we're moving it is you know I couldn't [00:27:24] really like help the local businesses [00:27:27] with a grant to get the charging station [00:27:29] and let them take the out-of-pocket [00:27:31] costs it's um [00:27:33] like the Whistle Stop well yeah I mean [00:27:36] what's the stuff I mean does it have to [00:27:38] be a public build could it be a grant [00:27:41] probably requires it could be in a [00:27:43] popular event well I'm not right yeah I [00:27:45] I don't know I [00:27:46] I just was replacing what we have here I [00:27:49] have no Grand ideas on uh where we would [00:27:51] put them or what we should do with them [00:27:53] if you get more information on the costs [00:27:55] and I'm I'm more than willing to listen [00:27:57] I just so I wasn't I some of that I was [00:28:00] giving you information [00:28:03] I wasn't looking for a emotion or [00:28:05] anything so I'm just doing it but now [00:28:07] I'm saying do you want me to hold off [00:28:09] well it sounds like [00:28:11] you should move forward and see if we're [00:28:14] we're eligible because we don't have to [00:28:16] take the grant either [00:28:18] telling us but [00:28:20] continue [00:28:21] sounds good okay [00:28:23] 10 years from now the electric cars are [00:28:25] we're going to have stacks batteries [00:28:28] yeah we're going to see the Cradle of [00:28:30] the graves completeness of it and if I [00:28:33] wasn't being on TV right now I'd say the [00:28:36] whole thing's probably going to turn out [00:28:38] to not be a such a good idea but I think [00:28:41] we should we have to continue with what [00:28:42] we got otherwise sure you apply for the [00:28:46] grant and I get the information in the [00:28:48] meantime on how payback we would get [00:28:51] through however whatever it does however [00:28:54] we charge [00:28:55] I mean we really are like cutting our [00:28:57] throats and everything and just take [00:28:59] five thousand dollars [00:29:01] to pay for something that [00:29:03] you know [00:29:04] I mean look at this inside of this [00:29:05] building you can spend five thousand [00:29:07] dollars in Spanish building and upgrade [00:29:09] something [00:29:10] within this building [00:29:11] we're probably will at some point but I [00:29:15] mean even writing a grant we could get [00:29:17] something in this building and take time [00:29:18] to write a grant or something within the [00:29:20] building I mean to me that's more [00:29:22] valuable but I understand that the green [00:29:25] money is out there so [00:29:27] I think I think they push things like [00:29:29] this [00:29:30] they're pretty easy to get they're easy [00:29:32] to get right [00:29:35] all right that's just my opinion [00:29:42] um [00:29:44] oh there's one more thing [00:29:46] so just about everybody in the building [00:29:49] is taking Monday off as a floater [00:29:51] holiday [00:29:52] I would like your permission to close [00:29:54] town hall for Monday [00:29:57] the third the [00:29:59] SE because the holidays I I saw a lot of [00:30:01] emails going around with our list [00:30:02] service so people are doing that because [00:30:04] a lot of everybody just feel like we're [00:30:06] not here we're not gonna be here so if [00:30:08] you don't mind I would like to go no [00:30:10] doubt put it on Facebook and on our [00:30:12] website and stuff that Monday the [00:30:13] offices will be closed and resume normal [00:30:16] business hours on Wednesday the 5th oh [00:30:19] keep it closed Tuesday too well it's a [00:30:21] holiday I'm good [00:30:23] as long as everyone's using their own [00:30:24] yeah I went around to everybody I'm like [00:30:27] I'm gonna be in Rhode Island so I'm like [00:30:30] um do you guys wanna you guys gonna be [00:30:31] here [00:30:34] lock the doors and do all the things I'm [00:30:36] not going to be here and they're all [00:30:37] like no we're taking it we're taking [00:30:38] we're taking we're taking a float or [00:30:39] whatever so and highways closed all week [00:30:41] they shut down things they always do yep [00:30:44] so [00:30:46] I don't know I'm sure light will be [00:30:49] running Mark doesn't have but they do [00:30:51] their own thing yeah they don't have [00:30:52] public come into the building right [00:30:55] yeah she can deal with things from [00:30:57] around she can actually and then and or [00:30:59] they can come they can come and go yeah [00:31:01] they they she comes in [00:31:03] he comes in but I've dealt with her yep [00:31:05] I've used them yeah so I'm sure they're [00:31:08] yeah [00:31:09] great I think if they weren't running [00:31:11] they would notify people yeah [00:31:16] and we don't have a meeting [00:31:18] no okay [00:31:21] it feels withdrawal [00:31:27] you guys can absolutely without me it [00:31:30] would never be offended [00:31:32] I'm fine with Monday I'm fine okay I [00:31:36] mean it's really their choice yeah yeah [00:31:40] okay post it right get it out there yeah [00:31:45] designs [00:31:53] and we should get a hold of our building [00:31:55] inspector for that [00:31:57] their private property or they're [00:32:00] condemned I'm not sure [00:32:03] or something try to sign some [00:32:07] last yeah we got it over we got it [00:32:09] Thursday I think [00:32:11] yeah okay [00:32:14] do we have any [00:32:17] fantasies the buildings [00:32:19] uh for tax title we must yes that that's [00:32:23] actually that's what's going on I [00:32:24] believe [00:32:25] yeah what it is we're waiting for them [00:32:35] they only do some [00:32:38] and so they work on a few a year and try [00:32:40] to get them straightened out because of [00:32:42] the time and the cost [00:32:44] I do remember this conversation [00:32:47] it's been ongoing [00:32:49] unfortunately it's not a quick process [00:32:54] what to do like right [00:32:57] because then it's a cost to [00:33:01] demolish them will be [00:33:04] yeah [00:33:06] and the white building [00:33:09] that might have someone might be [00:33:11] interested [00:33:12] that's kind of teaching a lot this one [00:33:14] down here yeah it's gonna taste inside a [00:33:16] lot I might actually get some money [00:33:18] though well it's got a lot of sounds [00:33:22] like [00:33:26] they would make a profit [00:33:29] and it doesn't have asbestos in it just [00:33:31] a little mile up in the attitude [00:33:34] [Music] [00:33:36] it's not wrapped on them yeah he's [00:33:40] circuit installs uh contamination [00:33:43] inspections they find a lot of stuff [00:33:46] lead [00:33:52] I can't imagine yeah [00:33:58] well I just need to sign that I don't [00:34:00] think I need to have a vote on nope not [00:34:02] just for you to sign anybody I looked at [00:34:04] them when they came in [00:34:06] and uh made sure Mr Joe Orr's lock is [00:34:09] going to get paid for Memorial Day [00:34:12] no that was [00:34:14] part of a text message and email last [00:34:17] week [00:34:21] still alive [00:34:27] I'll find out what's going on with the [00:34:30] kids [00:34:33] oh yeah I do remember him saying that [00:34:36] Kevin said they were having something [00:34:38] did you adjourn I'll make a motion to [00:34:41] adjourn I'll shift it thousand camera hi [00:34:50] um [00:34:52] yeah [00:35:55] foreign